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Windows XP Starter Edition off to Slow Start

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft may have started shipping its cheaper version of Windows in Asia, but getting support for its low-cost computing vision is still very much a work in progress. It seems Starter Edition has not gained much interest from vendors, nor has it generated much interest from end users." I haven't seen any sort of consumer research, but I imagine people don't like to have their number of possible network connections restrained by the host operating system.

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  1. Bad Marketing by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe in the coming days of Longhorn, Microsoft should sell a standard Shorthorn version, with built-in limitation.

    I believe normal users don't really know/care the differences, but if you tell them A is a standard version, it has xx features, they can also buy B with x features, people tend to choose former.

    However, if you tell consumers A is a standard version with x features, they can also buy a premium version with xx features, people still tend to choose the former, but some of them will upgrade to the latter simply because it is better.

    Oh by the way, naming it Shorthorn is just as bad as XP Starter, MS should have the standard Longhorn with fewer features, and come out market Longerhorn as the premium.

    1. Re:Bad Marketing by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wouldn't this be like XP Home vs XP Pro?

      Then again I suppose anything can be spun through marketing. You figure something that's been lamed-down wouldn't get much play to begin with...but I guess if you spin it as the standard version, then maybe people may bite.

      Also, the whole thing was created to curb off some piracy from the Asian market. That way, people who couldn't afford software may "buy" the starter edition instead of pirating an XP home or whatnot. From this standpoint, any sale they make is a bonus against rampant piracy.

      Now for those folks who would rather pirate XP than use something like Linux (which I'm sure there are a lot of), I'm not really sure how best to market to them if you're a Linux Evangelist.

    2. Re:Bad Marketing by Strudelkugel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sort of a tangent, but has Microsoft really done anything significant with Ballmer as CEO? When Gates had the job, they made Windows a success, created VB and the real possibility of RAD development, introduced their first 32 bit OS, began the design of .Net (nifty technology, idiotic name), and launched a very successful update to Windows.

      With Ballmer as CEO, Microsoft lost ground (and certainly mindshare) to Apple, issued questionable statements about TCO, introduced something as questionable as XP Starter Edition, and disbanded the IE developer group, leaving consumers with a bad experience when encountering the company's version of the the most widely used type of software application. The stock has done virtually nothing during Ballmer's tenure as well.

      My guess is Microsoft needs a new CEO if it is to become an interesting company again. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ballmer step down one day after a fight with institutional investors. The big question: Who is the right person for that job?

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    3. Re:Bad Marketing by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> My guess is Microsoft needs a new CEO ... Who is the right person for that job?

      I think Carly Fiorina is available.

  2. Considering... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 5, Funny

    That any machine they buy probably has the pirated full version of Windows XP already installed, or it can be found on the street for 5 dollars...

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  3. They could just sell win2000 for $5 by cheekyboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many billions has win2000 made? surey they could just sell that for $5 as is on a cheap cd, no box.

    They could retro fit the XP theme into 2000 and call it XP-$5 edition :)

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  4. Irony... by Robotron23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The "starter" software near enough fails to get started itself!

  5. People don't like crippleware. by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The restrictions in Starter Edition (low maximum resolution, limited number of applications that can be run at once) are completely arbitrary. Microsoft hasn't put these restrictions in place because it makes the software cheaper, it has put them in place because it wants to force a cheaper version to be less functional.

    The problem is that, regardless of whether users would actually need the functionality that Starter Edition doesn't have, people won't like it. People are simply averse to buying products that have been deliberately crippled. It doesn't matter whether the restrictions affect them, they feel insulted by being offered something that has been willfully hobbled.

    Jedidiah.

  6. Losing to another version... by levitater · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's called Windows XP Asian Street Corner Edition. Available either free or next to nothing in most metropolitan street corners in Asia.

  7. I tried to use it by snuf23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    But when the desktop came up it said I couldn't run anymore programs besides gator, hot bar and virtual bouncer.

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  8. Well duh... by Malor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Very few people are going to choose a 'cheap', but brain-damaged operating system, when they can get a more sophisticated one for free. They'll either (illegally) copy XP, or (legally) copy Linux.

    Further, if Microsoft manages to talk OUR government into pressuring THEIR governments into cracking down more on piracy, this will probably increase sales for them a little bit. It will also increase Linux adoption a very great deal.

    The dirty little secret that Microsoft has been hiding all these years is that piracy was GOOD for them in creating their monopoly. Now that they have a monopoly, however, they believe the illegal copying does them no good, so they are trying to stop it.

    But in many of those foreign countries, they do not yet have a monopoly. And the concept of serving the customer has been absent from Microsoft for so long that they actually think people will buy this brain-dead crap. Instead of doing the RIGHT thing by the customer, which is dropping the price on the normal product to something the local economy can supporty, they're trying this racket to protect their home monopoly pricing.

    Ultimately, it's just not going to work. They may eventually figure it out. I'm not convinced of this, however. They have been a monopoly for too long and fear losing that power more than they want to get into new markets.

  9. in Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft tried to push the Starter Edition in Brazil, to replace Linux in a government-funded program to combat the digital divide.

    Brazilian representatives refused the offer, because they didn't want poor people to have a second-class computer, as if they were second-class citizens.

    With Linux, people have everything: the operating system, OpenOffice, Firefox, Gimp, programming languages and hundreds of useful software.

    (BTW I think it's revolting that MS put money to create a "worsened" version of Windows, instead of improve the "real one".)

  10. What they're up against by Kufat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's a friend's accounting of how organized piracy is in HK:
    <genjzzz> there are several plazas in hk that sell only computer and video game stuff
    <genjzzz> a lot of grey market stuff there
    <genjzzz> and counterfeit stuff like ps accessories
    <genjzzz> ps2 that is
    <genjzzz> and oversea versions of consoles that have no reason to be in hk
    <genjzzz> i bought my cdrs from an organized group of individuals
    <genjzzz> maybe about 14 in all
    <genjzzz> anyway, inside one of the plazas, they have a corner shop set up with only color photocopies of the software they have available
    <genjzzz> about 300 or so
    <genjzzz> they have look outs at every entrance
    <genjzzz> so i walk in and find the software i want
    <genjzzz> and someone take the order and give me a slip with the software's stock numbers on it
    <genjzzz> then i walk to the other side of the plaza where there's a "cashier" standing around
    <genjzzz> i give him the slip and the money, he tells me who to see about pick up
    <genjzzz> usually a few stores away
    <genjzzz> the cashier gives me a slip with a number on it, that's my receipt to get the items
    <genjzzz> so the dude tells me where to pick up the software: down the street and up the stairs at some store
    <genjzzz> in about 15 minutes
    <genjzzz> so i wait and go up and see some guy with a bunch of cdrs in plastic bags with receipt numbers on them
    <genjzzz> i give him my receipt and get my software ~
    <genjzzz> so they have seperate places for choosing, paying, information, and pick up
    <genjzzz> and the warehouse of the cdrs is never revealed

    This isn't a case of a few guys selling cdrs to friends, it's a huge, well-established business.

  11. Starter Edition is NOT a cheap version of Windows by CGameProgrammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel it's necessary to clarify this. Starter Edition is not a cheap alternative to XP Home; it's supposed to be for people who have never used a computer before. Ever. In fact, look here -- it's maximum resolution is 800x600 (that's XP Home/Pro's minimum supported resolution!) and it only allows three programs to run at once. But it has other features geared to people who are basically afraid of computers.

    Of course, people who can't even use XP Home or OSX are probably not eager to use computers at all, so the market for this is understandably minimal.

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