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Dutch A.G. Supports Scientology v. Spaink Verdict
bbc writes "ISP XS4All reports that the Dutch Attorney-General advises against reversal of the last verdict in the Scientology vs. Karin Spaink case (part of Scientology's War on the Internet). A series of court battles between writer Spaink and the Church of Scientology has changed the copyright landscape of the internet in the Netherlands. In an early case, linking to infringing documents was considered infringement itself. Later this was reversed, although by then several unrelated cases (notably Deutsche Bahn v. Indymedia) had been decided on the basis of this judgement. On appeals, the court held that free speech sometimes trumps copyright: even though Spaink may have infringed on the Church's copyright, she was allowed to do so to bring to light the doings of what she considers an evil sect.
According to the XS4All document, not only did the Attorney-General uphold the decision that Free Speech can trump Copyright, but concluded also that there may not have been infringement. The Attorney-General feels a work can be considered published even if publication happened against the will of the author. In the Netherlands, the Supreme Court can only reverse previous decisions by lower courts. Before it renders a verdict, it asks the Attorney-General for advice."
"Scientology's War on the Internet"
For a minute there I read that as "Slashdot's War on anything that isn't internet"
Xenu will be displeased. FEAR THE WRATH!
Obviously /. editor Timothy hasn't gone through the procedure to free oneself from the influence of his body thetans and that's why he made the mistake.
Anyone who disagrees with this will be assimilated into my personal machiavellian dossier and will expect a knock on the door from my high powered galatic warrior attorneys.
Good going. As we grey parrots have always been among the most talkative of birds, we value freedom of speech immesurably. I'm not going to take a position on which of your religions is best (we find the whole debate silly), but it's good that you upheld the human right to criticize others.
If only the same standard of laissez-faire speech applied in Africa. According to conversations that I have had with African grey parrots from home (Africa), some have been placed in extremely small cages, with no toys, for speaking out against the lack of democracy in the "democratic" republic of Congo, and in Zimbabwe.
I know that you humans generally don't think of parrots as having the potential to usurp entrenched political structures, so I can only imagine that the situation for human dissidents is even worse.
With my species' intellect and yours'brawn, we can defeat tyranny. Please help!
So it's fair to say that Scientology in the Netherlands is now Spainked?
"An SP being someone that all scientologists should dissasociate them selves from because they are eeeeviilll"
Like a microsoft SP?
needs a firm Spainking.
sulli
RTFJ.
Make fun of their religion.
Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
So, Scientology, as a "religion" is allowed to maintain a copyright over its underlying dogma? Freaky! That would be like saying that Scientology should be deemed a private source initiative where L.Ron Hubbard and family maintain the IP over the movement's ideas (much like they seem to benefit financially from that IP). By comparison, Judeo-Christianity-Islamism is largely an open source religious undertaking. This is since it was easy for anyone to contribute relevant parts to the religious kernel and its now forked innumerable times into different flavours of Mosesnix.
So Happy Sunshine Week everyone!!
Okay, so math isn't their strong suit.
Oh get them to explain the space aliens - once you understand you're haunted by them and need to pay a lot of money to be exorcized everything will make a lot more sense ...
Advocat general works fine aswell if your from the UK atleast , not to be confused with "egg liquer" drunkend millitary officials though
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
For crying out loud people, if everyone keeps bashing on the Scientologists, we may never get more doses of quality cinema like Battlefield Earth (IMDB Bottom 100 #36 as of right now)...
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Scientogloy if a cult designed purely to make money, rather like other cults, but more sinister, as they are trying to be even monopolisticin the evil department.
/. story.
They make contact through IQ tests, herding in the gulible and vain, with some plausible junk about increasing IQ and other shit, then it is like a pyramid marketting scheme where you train up and teach others, it only pushes itself into 'religion' because it can seek protection under religious law clauses.
Just treat is as a money leeching pyramid scheme and you can't do to bad. If you meet a hot scientologist chick, shag her, then piss on her and leave her pregnant, and laugh at her occassionally via phone.
If we do that enough times we could stamp it out!
(if you meet a scientologist guy, just ask him about aliens that are stuck to you and how to get rid of them, and then take it seriously and start cutting yourself saying "GET THEM OFF ME OH MY FUCKING HELL AAAAAAAARGH") and see if he uses his supernatural powers to save himself.
Official: Scientology is worse than a piquepaille
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Anyone else had any interesting encounters with those people?
Back in my student years, I once got stuck in Amsterdam without money in the summer and was looking for some work. I've just came from Russia and Amsterdam was my first Western city.
First of all, I got angry at our communists back home for forbidding simple pleasures that the West was taking for granted: topless sunbathing in parks, bars with marijuana menu and red shop windows with nice girls on display. So I was determined to get a proper local job and integrate in this advanced society.
I went on a busy central street and started knocking on doors of offices and restaurants. The first office I came across turned out to be very friendly. They took me upstairs to the floor that looked like a library, except they had only one book with a volcano on the cover.
A very nice guy interviewed me and asked to fill some forms. I spent almost an hour filling a long questionnaire. Obviously, I've done my best to produce a good impression at my first job interview. But when the guy looked at my answers he became very worried. He took out a pencil and connected some dots on a piece of paper to draw something like a cardiograph chart.
"Look here, - he said. - You have a definite problem with self-esteem and ambition. If you don't do something about this right now, you'll lose everything in this life".
I was horrified. OK, I just came from Russia with a guitar and a hundred dollars in a pocket, but ambition could not be my weakest point! In fact, that was all I had then... Still, the first job interview revealed me as being totally unfit for this new life...
I declined the company's offer of courses and training to boost my self-esteem and went to a nearby coffieshop completely devastated. I was seriously thinking of giving it up and going back to Russia. Thankfully, after a while the reality started to look different...
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Yours in Xenu.
I find it sad to the extreme that people will happily post things like "the US president is a clown" with nothing more to fear than being modded down, [...]
Yes, I agree. That's a harsh, unfair, and below-the-belt insult to hard-working clowns everywhere, trying to make their living by bringing joy into the lives of children and adults alike.
So, how does one take out a fake religion?
How does one differentiate between a "fake" religion and a "real" one? What's the difference? Surely not the request for money from its followers.
Could we reasonably accuse them of terrorism?
Have they actually conducted any acts of terrorism that you know of, or are you just taking advantage of some very dangerous, loose law in your country that makes it easier to accuse someone of terrorist acts ("witch!") and have them arrested? In the latter case, shame on you for supporting that system by using it, and thus help diluting the meaning of the once properly used word "terrorist".
Xenu loves me, this I know.
Body Thetans tell me so.
In volcanoes I belong;
I am weak, but he is strong.
Yes, Xenu loves me, yes Xenu loves me.
Yes, Xenu loves me,
My BTs tell me so!
you know, as a scientologist, i'm getting a little sick of people who think they know what the hell they're talking about, 'dropping the lingo' on what is essentially a 'one-sided, instantly decided' assessment of scientology, the subject.
/...anonymous slashdot'er, onlines since birth, twice already ..
you people with the 'BT restimulator' (as if you even can begin to fathom what it actually refers to, pffftt...) you've "revealed it all".
oddly enough, you never hear of missed witholds, whole track incident, engram, release, listing and nulling, overt motivater, goals problems mass, axiom 58, "intelligence and judgement...", HCO PL's, HCOB's, the ethics->tech->admin scale, Admin Scales, RPEC's, 2WC to F/N, and a vast array of other, highly technical aspects of the Scientology Doctring, a subject requiring careful Study and Application, not Ridicule before 'judgement' can be made on effectiveness..
Play your comic-book cult-awareness somewhere else, if you haven't done an M1, you have absolutely no grounds to come across as if you even have a clue about Scientology.
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