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Dutch A.G. Supports Scientology v. Spaink Verdict

bbc writes "ISP XS4All reports that the Dutch Attorney-General advises against reversal of the last verdict in the Scientology vs. Karin Spaink case (part of Scientology's War on the Internet). A series of court battles between writer Spaink and the Church of Scientology has changed the copyright landscape of the internet in the Netherlands. In an early case, linking to infringing documents was considered infringement itself. Later this was reversed, although by then several unrelated cases (notably Deutsche Bahn v. Indymedia) had been decided on the basis of this judgement. On appeals, the court held that free speech sometimes trumps copyright: even though Spaink may have infringed on the Church's copyright, she was allowed to do so to bring to light the doings of what she considers an evil sect. According to the XS4All document, not only did the Attorney-General uphold the decision that Free Speech can trump Copyright, but concluded also that there may not have been infringement. The Attorney-General feels a work can be considered published even if publication happened against the will of the author. In the Netherlands, the Supreme Court can only reverse previous decisions by lower courts. Before it renders a verdict, it asks the Attorney-General for advice."

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  1. War on internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Scientology's War on the Internet"

    For a minute there I read that as "Slashdot's War on anything that isn't internet"

  2. Hmm by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 4, Funny

    Xenu will be displeased. FEAR THE WRATH!

    1. Re:Hmm by Tatarize · · Score: 4, Funny

      Scientology is the crappiest, stupidest, evilest cult known to man. On second thought, All hail Xenu. Please don't sue me.

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    2. Re:Hmm by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny
      Like a fresh stream of crystal clear water, the Purification Program gets rid of the devastating effects of drugs

      Like, get rid of all the effects of the beer and pot I do? Dear lord, these people really ARE evil and must be stopped!

  3. Re:AG supports Spaink, not $cientology by CHESTER+COPPERPOT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously /. editor Timothy hasn't gone through the procedure to free oneself from the influence of his body thetans and that's why he made the mistake.

    Anyone who disagrees with this will be assimilated into my personal machiavellian dossier and will expect a knock on the door from my high powered galatic warrior attorneys.

  4. How do you steam clams??? by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny


    Make fun of their religion.

    /Johnny Carson joke

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  5. Re:Copyright by zlata_the_goat · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, Scientology, as a "religion" is allowed to maintain a copyright over its underlying dogma? Freaky! That would be like saying that Scientology should be deemed a private source initiative where L.Ron Hubbard and family maintain the IP over the movement's ideas (much like they seem to benefit financially from that IP). By comparison, Judeo-Christianity-Islamism is largely an open source religious undertaking. This is since it was easy for anyone to contribute relevant parts to the religious kernel and its now forked innumerable times into different flavours of Mosesnix.

  6. Neat quote from scientology.org by IInventedTheInternet · · Score: 5, Funny
    I found this quote on http://www.scientology.org/ and I thought was cute
    March 15, 2005: Rev. Heber C. Jentzsch, President of the Church of Scientology International, said today that in a post 9/11 era of growing government secrecy, National Sunshine Week is a chance to reawaken public support for Freedom of Information as the lifeblood of democracy.
    So Happy Sunshine Week everyone!!
  7. Re:From The Scientology FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, so math isn't their strong suit.

  8. Re:Not "Attorney-General" by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Advocat general works fine aswell if your from the UK atleast , not to be confused with "egg liquer" drunkend millitary officials though

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  9. Just to clarify: by tod_miller · · Score: 4, Funny

    Scientogloy if a cult designed purely to make money, rather like other cults, but more sinister, as they are trying to be even monopolisticin the evil department.

    They make contact through IQ tests, herding in the gulible and vain, with some plausible junk about increasing IQ and other shit, then it is like a pyramid marketting scheme where you train up and teach others, it only pushes itself into 'religion' because it can seek protection under religious law clauses.

    Just treat is as a money leeching pyramid scheme and you can't do to bad. If you meet a hot scientologist chick, shag her, then piss on her and leave her pregnant, and laugh at her occassionally via phone.

    If we do that enough times we could stamp it out!

    (if you meet a scientologist guy, just ask him about aliens that are stuck to you and how to get rid of them, and then take it seriously and start cutting yourself saying "GET THEM OFF ME OH MY FUCKING HELL AAAAAAAARGH") and see if he uses his supernatural powers to save himself.

    Official: Scientology is worse than a piquepaille /. story.

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  10. Re:My 5cient0logy experiece by 1gor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else had any interesting encounters with those people?

    Back in my student years, I once got stuck in Amsterdam without money in the summer and was looking for some work. I've just came from Russia and Amsterdam was my first Western city.

    First of all, I got angry at our communists back home for forbidding simple pleasures that the West was taking for granted: topless sunbathing in parks, bars with marijuana menu and red shop windows with nice girls on display. So I was determined to get a proper local job and integrate in this advanced society.

    I went on a busy central street and started knocking on doors of offices and restaurants. The first office I came across turned out to be very friendly. They took me upstairs to the floor that looked like a library, except they had only one book with a volcano on the cover.

    A very nice guy interviewed me and asked to fill some forms. I spent almost an hour filling a long questionnaire. Obviously, I've done my best to produce a good impression at my first job interview. But when the guy looked at my answers he became very worried. He took out a pencil and connected some dots on a piece of paper to draw something like a cardiograph chart.

    "Look here, - he said. - You have a definite problem with self-esteem and ambition. If you don't do something about this right now, you'll lose everything in this life".

    I was horrified. OK, I just came from Russia with a guitar and a hundred dollars in a pocket, but ambition could not be my weakest point! In fact, that was all I had then... Still, the first job interview revealed me as being totally unfit for this new life...

    I declined the company's offer of courses and training to boost my self-esteem and went to a nearby coffieshop completely devastated. I was seriously thinking of giving it up and going back to Russia. Thankfully, after a while the reality started to look different...

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