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From Archive.org, Free Multimedia Hosting for Life

powerline22 writes "From the people who gave you the Internet Archive comes Ourmedia, a place for grassroots media to flourish. Upload anything, maybe a video, some pictures, your custom applescript, and it gets hosted for free, for life. Drupal is hosting the site, and the Internet Archive is providing hosting and bandwidth for the files."

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  1. even copyrighted material? by bdigit · · Score: 4, Funny

    AWESOME! Screw bittorrent now I can just download everything I need from this site. Porn, music, pirated software. Thanks archive.org!

  2. Best usage by stupidfoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Porn

    Let's be honest here. Your own private permanent porn collection. What could be better?

    1. Re:Best usage by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 4, Funny
      The problem I run into with a porn stash is that cracking the website and pulling the goods is the fun part.

      Once I have the pile of images and videos, they are really kinda boring. Well, boring after they are filed by sexual position, cup size, and security exploit.

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      --Dr.W.Edwards Deming
    2. Re:Best usage by Carthag · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hehe, amen. The day I figured out how to use http://curl.haxx.se/, porn became somewhat boring. It's just too easy to obtain.

    3. Re:Best usage by LocoMan · · Score: 3, Informative
      From the users FAQ:

      No porn, you say?

      No porn. Go away.

      Suposedly it's on the site rules too, but can't get on them because of the slashdotting.. :)

    4. Re:Best usage by grolschie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's be honest here. Your own private permanent porn collection. What could be better?

      A clean conscience perhaps?

    5. Re:Best usage by Neoncow · · Score: 2, Funny
      When you click the link, a little known IE vulnerability allows the site to scan your harddrive for porn site passwords.

      All of the information is sent to Carthag's email account.

    6. Re:Best usage by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 2, Funny

      "What could be better than a clean conscience?"

      A BIG porn collection?

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  3. They did this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful


    with their caching idea (like coralcache) but 6months later they stopped it, whats to say the same wont happen here ? when people do hosting they want reliability not bandwidth

    1. Re:They did this before by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "when people do hosting they want reliability not bandwidth"

      Not necessarily. Hosting like everything else is split among different needs and wants. There are some who will never pay more than $.99 per year for unlimited everything. Then there are those who will pay $100.00 per month for redundant reliable connections. To each their own.

      I have no doubt the service will be around for a while and if they need cash then enter the advertisers. Ads everywhere and then the selling of your personal data. They could then move to a 1&1 promo--credit card needed for free service then charge after a year after you have long forgotten them.

      If they are hosted with Server Beach the bandwidth is pretty cheap but you may or may not have problems as others have had in the past with them. But you will get the quality you pay for which in this case is $0.00.

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  4. Yeah baby... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, what's the better way to stress-test their servers than announce it on slashdot.org?

  5. How Long? by bleckywelcky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How long can this really last? Bandwidth costs money. Servers cost money. Power costs money. Admins need to eat. I think it's a good idea, but just wondering where the funds are going to come from.

    1. Re:How Long? by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even so, to some extent it does need to be done.

      I'm not saying everything (or even a measurable portion) that appears on the internet is worth keeping forever, but the worth of any of it is not something those in the present are qualified to judge on.

      In a thousand years, provided humanity hasn't wiped itself out by then, the internet archive (and by extension, ourmedia.org) will be what archaeologists use to learn about us.

    2. Re:How Long? by Deagol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      archive.org has been around for quite some time, and they offer no small service. They've obviously secured funding from somewhere.

    3. Re:How Long? by ArcticFlood · · Score: 5, Informative

      This page tells how archive.org obtains its funding.

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    4. Re:How Long? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      the internet archive (and by extension, ourmedia.org) will be what archaeologists use to learn about us.

      Good God, I hope not.

    5. Re:How Long? by doormat · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a thousand years, provided humanity hasn't wiped itself out by then, the internet archive (and by extension, ourmedia.org) will be what archaeologists use to learn about us.

      Yes, because thats what I want to be remembered by, porn, All Your Base..., the star wars kid and NumaNuma. Yea... right...

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    6. Re:How Long? by pyrrhonist · · Score: 2, Funny
      Admins need to eat.

      WHAT!?!!? Oh crap, I left them in the glass room for a month with no food!

      Oh Ghod! The UNIX admins tried to eat the MCSA's brain and starved to death.

      Oh the horror! THE HORROR!!!

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    7. Re:How Long? by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

      I won't tell you who their funders are, but I'll give you a hint. Their initials are F, B, and I, and C, I, and A. : p

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    8. Re:How Long? by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
      That's why I contend that when the noosphere does become sentinent, it's going to be bat-shit crazy.

      (Just like humanity.)

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      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  6. In the end, lots of homemade stuff by suso · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cool, sounds like the perfect place to store Rooftop Warrior [warning, bad quality homemade ninja movie]

    1. Re:In the end, lots of homemade stuff by biglig2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      My dear boy, "bad quality homemade ninja movie" isn't a warning around here, it's a compliment.

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  7. Uh huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "For life".

    Think they're going to hold to that?

    And I don't just mean in the case of the 90% of content which will be posted there illegally, or even the 80% of the leftover content which will be highly pornographic. What if I post an MPEG there and it gets linked on fark and winds up eating terrabytes of the site's bandwidth? How long you think it will remain there?

    1. Re:Uh huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "For life"....

      ..."OF OUR COMPANY!!!." Oh shit, I said the quite part loud and the loud part quiet.

  8. I bet there isn't a catch! by 93,000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Things are never too good to be true, especially in the computer world.

  9. obl. privacy concern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    all is well and good, until they get bought by someone else. what happens to the data then? what happens if they go bankrupt, and their hard drives wind up on ebay?

    1. Re:obl. privacy concern. by Max_Abernethy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That would suck, but not for privacy reasons. When you put your stuff up there, it's for everyone to see, anyway - doesn't get any less private than that.

    2. Re:obl. privacy concern. by Rolan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Privacy? Who said anything about privacy? You put your stuff up on the internet, don't expect it to be private, ever.

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  10. French Lawsuit in 3... 2... by Bonker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "I'm sorry. You can't run this site since it hosts material deemed illegal by our hate-speech laws."

    Free speech ain't always pretty.

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  11. World's Youngest Video Blogger by filmmaker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The segment about the "World's Youngest Video Blogger" is amazing. The time to media was a matter of a couple weeks and she goes from her first iMovie lesson from her father to being on ABC's "People of the Year" show.

    It then hit me: she's a "bigger" star online than on the television. Just watching that piece inadvertantly acts as a portent for a time when television is more or less culturally irrelevant, or more to the point, indistinguishable from "web" media.

  12. Re:Three comments and all about porn! by evenprime · · Score: 4, Funny
    Three comments and all about porn. What's wrong with you, slashdot people ?



    You are new here, aren't you?



    Just be happy that they weren't advocating porn that includes grits anymore.....

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  13. Which life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hopefully "for life" didn't mean the life of their websever, because that was shortened to about 5 minutes after the story was posted. :)

  14. Heh by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 2, Funny

    The site can't even handle being slashdotted... free video hosting, for life, for everyone?

    Yeah.

    Right.

  15. And it failed the test by objekt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdotted already. Thanks for playing

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    1. Re:And it failed the test by johnlittledotorg · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm guessing that they haven't enabled Drupal's throttle feature. The feature allows you to weight blocks of content/features and switch them off at predetermined load levels. Drupal, with a decent host of course, is perfectly capable of handling slashdot levels of traffic if traffic throttling is implemented properly.

  16. Mirror by mcguyver · · Score: 4, Funny

    In case of a slashdotting, here's a mirror of OurMedia on the wayback machine:
    http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ourmedia.o rg

    /ironic

  17. Already been using it for 9 months by Radix37 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At my website... it wouldn't exist at the size it is now without archive.

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  18. Re:Damn thats sweet! by Ktistec+Machine · · Score: 5, Funny
    the 'permenant for life' thing seems a little wishful, but we'll see

    Easy: When they run out of space, they start killing the users. No problem.

  19. GREAT for independent musicians by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now they don't have to buy storage and bandwidth to host their music.

    Not sure what hosting costs your average indy band, but anything that saves them even a few bucks is a boon.

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    1. Re:GREAT for independent musicians by aaronsorkin · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... and podcasters, and videobloggers, and animators.

      I know of podcasters who've been socked with $500/month bills because of bandwidth use. This solves their problem (they can point to their video or audio file on our servers from their own site).

      BTW, we host all the media files on archive.org and all the accompanying pages on Drupal, and the performance problems you're seeing today is because of a too-small server on Drupal. They're working on that tonight.

      jd

  20. Depends on the economics. by PxM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ideal hope would be that the bandwith costs involved becomes cheaper at a rate equal to or greater than the bandwith usage. That is, the net cost remains constant or less than the influx of money from public and private sources. Given that bandwith usage by clients will rise as bandwith costs for them drop, this might be too optimistic, but economics is always a hard thing to predict when it is so technologically dependent. They could also try to get people like Google to back this project as part of their new library initative.

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  21. Re:Porn collection by telstar · · Score: 4, Funny
    "How long will it be before someone uploads his porn collection?"
    • What's everybody else using Ofoto for?


  22. Smells like a cheap ploy by Ced_Ex · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that the site is slashdotted by you hordes, I'm basing from the article posting it seems to me that this could be an easy way to obtain copyrighted material without getting any **AA involvement.

    Here's the plan:

    1. Claim to host multimedia for life.
    2. Open access for users to *upload*
    3. ???
    4. Shut down because of bad business plan.
    5. Reap the rewards!

    Technically you didn't download any files, and by the time *AA comes by, you've shut down and stopped hosting files. (But really we all know you've made those backup copies offline.)

    Am I right, or am I right?

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    1. Re:Smells like a cheap ploy by HyperChicken · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering (according to the Slashdot story, which doesn't mean much) Internet Archive is behind it, I would assume it's legit. That's what Archive.org does; Store stuff.

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  23. Wikipedia by pHatidic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I see that they are partnered with wikipedia, what exactly is the relationship of this partnership?

    1. Re:Wikipedia by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

      what exactly is the relationship of this partnership?

      Fellowship? Kinship? Scholarship? Readership? Worship? ;)

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  24. Repeat after me kids.... by mabu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "FREE".

    Somebody pays, always. If not you directly, then you pay indirectly; if not now, then later, but you get nothing for free.

    Perhaps the biggest infection within our society is this notion that you can get something for nothing, and how otherwise seemingly intelligent people turn into brain dead drooling baboons at the thought of getting a freebie.

    1. Re:Repeat after me kids.... by nicky_d · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ..THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "FREE".

      That's a mantra for C21st America if ever I heard one. Of course there's such a thing as 'free'. Yeah, someone pays, but if it ain't me, then it's free. If I end up with two copies of a book and I give one away, I've paid for both but the surplus copy is entirely free to whoever I give it to. If I help a friend out with their PC, I pay with my time, but the service is free to them. Things are sometimes done in kindness, or in the service of a better world, even in this day and age. Don't let 'them' convince you otherwise.

      Of course, free iPod schemes are a different matter, and I'd imagine this kind of cynical appeal to the frugally covetous is what you're talking about. But I don't equate archive.org with the architects of those kind of schemes. It IS still possible to get something good and decent for free, and that's something to be thankful for.

  25. Re:Ummm, by joeljkp · · Score: 4, Informative

    The rules: fair use

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  26. Re:Are they going to delete stuff like on 9/11? by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is regular tin foil okay, or should I be using the heavy-duty kind?

  27. nice ! by sla291 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's nice to see that free services like that are flourishing...

    jamendo does it too, for CC music albums, and they use bittorrent.

  28. Interesting Funding by r00td43m0n · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The about page on archive.org states they received funding from 'Alexa Internet' http://www.alexa.com/. Is this the same Alexa that is known for spyware applications?

  29. Re:Ummm, by LocoMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also it says "no porn"... I just posted about it on a previous thread with a link, it's up there somewhere.. :)

  30. Re:If it sounds too good to be true ... by TTK+Ciar · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Internet Archive has been around since 1996. We're funded by webcrawls-by-contract and by the Brewster Kahle Foundation. The Archive is a non-profit organization. We have no creditors. So relax.

    It is in our charter to perpetuate our archives forever, and it's a charge we take seriously. As our hard drives go bad (and oh do they ever!) they are replaced by new ones, and we are protected from data loss by mirroring our archives across machines, and across data centers in different countries.

    -- TTK

  31. Re:If it sounds too good to be true ... by TTK+Ciar · · Score: 2, Informative

    What I posted was only half the story .. in full, the Archive gets its funding the same way that traditional libraries do, through grants from foundations, donations from private entities, and in-kind donations from corporations. The K/A Foundation and crawls-by-contract are just the sources of income with which I am most familiar (I'm just a dumb-ass programmer, so that part of the business isn't very visible to me, thus the oversight).

    -- TTK

  32. A little known media archive .. by Eloquence · · Score: 2, Informative
    .. that everyone will start talking about soon is the Wikimedia Commons, which already hosts about 40,000 files (mostly images). All of the content on the Commons is under a free license. What is it? It's the media archive used by the Wikimedia projects, including Wikipedia and Wikinews. It's been created in September last year and has been growing at a rapid pace ever since.

    If you own content that might be useful to Wikipedia or the other Wikimedia projects, such as holidy photos from a far-away country, please upload it to the Commons. If you don't want to learn the ways of the wiki, you can use the newly created (free) file upload service, where Wikimedia volunteers will tag and upload your files for you. The only condition is that you put them under a free license or in the public domain.

    Remember, all the Wikimedia projects are run by a non-profit organization that depends on donations from people like you.

  33. No porn or pirated works, but anything else works by aaronsorkin · · Score: 2, Informative

    So the deal is: Yeah, you can post pretty much anything here, for free. No porn or pirated works, though. Sorry 'bout that -- we'd like to remain open, thank you very much.

    As far as "only copyrighted works" -- not quite. We'll host any materials: public domain texts and movies, GNU General License software, works that fall within well-accepted fair use standards. And, of course, the stuff you create yourself.

    We're trying to help enable remix culture, so that people will be able to find works they can freely build upon, remix and recirculate. Without getting a call from your friendly RIAA/MPAA legal team.

    -- jd, one of the founders

  34. Re:If it sounds too good to be true ... by TTK+Ciar · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, the UI (the page linked to by slashdot here) isn't hosted at The Archive, for better or for worse.

    The non-waybackmachine web servers (ten, at present) at archive.org proper are load-balanced via keepalived, and should stand up okay before a slashdotting. We learned things about the limitations of our webfarm from hosting the tsunami videos in the wake of that disaster, and beefed them up significantly.

    Non-waybackmachine web traffic usually hovers around 40 to 60 hits per second, here, and we should be able to handle four or six times that before we start dropping anyone's connections.

    -- TTK

  35. Coders needed for open source project by aaronsorkin · · Score: 5, Informative
    I was wondering whether to post this to /. or not.

    What the hell -- we're a free, not-for-profit, open-source media project. It doesn't get more Slashdotty than that.

    We're looking for coders to help out on Ourmedia -- to make it a Slashdotter's multimedia wet dream.

    The Ourmedia Project is relying on open-source developers to build new functionalities for the site -- such as media ratings, new RSS features, playlists, social networking, license searches, improved taxonomies -- and to help build a global registry connecting a network of grassroots media sites.

    That means six months from now we don't want to be just a destination website -- we want open-source schemas that will let any site hook into a global network of freely accessible grassroots media.

    But we can't pull that off unless more expert coders pitch in. (Here's our current project team and advisory board.) (Apologies, we're adding more servers tonight.)

    See our Volunteer page for details. Pass it along. Or ignore this, as you wish. :~) -- jd (email), co-founder

  36. FAQ on OurMedia.org by XaviorPenguin · · Score: 2, Informative

    ?: I don't have any personal media to share. Can I still join?

    !: Yes, and we'll even give you a free blog.

    ?: Is there an Ourmedia community?

    !: Yes -- many communities. You can use Ourmedia for any legitimate purpose: as a social meeting space, a gathering spot to diss Big Media, a learning center for tips on how to create compelling video or photos, or for other reasons. It's up to you.

    ?: Hey, MP3s by David Byrne and the Beastie Boys are on Ourmedia. What are they doing here?

    !:Ourmedia is for amateurs, hobbyists and professionals. We don't discriminate against artists just because they're under contract with a music label. We try to help bands, DJs and solo musicians achieve greater visibility, so it wouldn't make sense to banish artists who have achieved commercial success. Ourmedia is about inclusiveness.

    ?: Many artists like Byrne, the Beasties, Le Tigre and others are letting you remix, re-create and recirculate their works -- for free -- under a Creative Commons license.

    !: I didn't upload my stuff, but I see it on Ourmedia anyway. Why?

    ?: If you assigned your work a Creative Commons license in the past, that means you agreed to share it with anyone. Ourmedia is about exposing and sharing works, so someone probably took the initiative to place your work on our servers for sharing. Please feel free to make changes to your work's media page; we'll make sure you have full access.

    !: If someone uploaded your material to Ourmedia and it does not have a Creative Commons license, that means the person violated our Site rules and we'll remove the material. See our Deletion and retraction policy.

    ?: Why can't I leave anonymous comments?

    !: This is a community. Only members may blog, post comments and participate in our Forums. Registering takes only a few moments.

    ?: Your site doesn't look complete.

    !: Ourmedia is in alpha, which means we're still in our early stages (next comes beta). Instead of spending years working on the site behind closed doors, we decided to ask other volunteers to join us in building out the site and adding new functionalities. We're an all-volunteer open-source effort. Not to brag, but we've already come farther than a lot of sites with a full-time paid staff. And here is what's on our drawing boards.

    ?: Dude, there's some pretty harsh stuff on Ourmedia!

    !: We can pretty much guarantee that you can find material on Ourmedia that you won't like. That's the price of visiting an open library and global town square. This isn't a watered-down, PG-rated, safe-for-the-FCC mass medium. Our Site rules explain that as a global repository, we draw the line at pornographic and infringing materials, but we are not in the business of censoring media we disagree with.

    ?: No porn, you say?

    !: No porn. Go away.

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