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Apple Settles with Tiger Leaker

The Hobo writes "CNet is carrying a story about Apple reaching a settlement with one of the Tiger leakers, 22-year-old Doug Steigerwald. The terms of the settlement were not released, but it was said that money will be paid to Apple. To quote Doug, 'As a member of Apple's Developer Connection program I received a pre-release version of Apple's Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger' software, which I promised to keep confidential, instead, I disseminated it over the Internet, and thousands of unauthorized copies of Apple's software were illegally distributed to the public'"

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  1. I guess signing a Non Disclosure... by Uptown+Joe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    means that you won't disclose anything. Or give away a few thowsand copies of licenced, un-released software... huh.

  2. Spilt Milk by Vamphyri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What was the tiger leaking?

    All humor aside. You have to assume when you receive a beta copy of something and signed an NDA there is some way for them to track you.

    1. Re:Spilt Milk by Mr12inch(Powerbook) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is not at all about fair use rights. He signed a legal contract, willingly, stating he would not disclose information and then proceeded to do exactly that. This is not "taking away his rights." He didn't have to sign the NDA and he didn't have to get the pre-release copy of Tiger. But he chose to, and then broke his contractual promise. Now he has to pay the consequence of his actions. It can't get any more black and white than this. And the government had nothing to do with this. Christ, take off your tinfoil hat for a while, your brain is screaming for oxygen.

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  3. That's gotta hurt by NetMagi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's sad here is, he likely got pressured into giving up a copy or two to some friends, who probably SWORE they wouldn't share it.

    They stood to lose nothing, and shared it with more of their friends and, etc, etc.

    Wonder how those people feel now.

    -NetMagi

  4. it should have happened by jim_redwagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't blame Apple here, I'd rather see their lawyers working on this kind of case than on better ways to enforce DRM. Pre-release versions give you a heads up on software advances and help companies release a better product.

    On a side note, it's good to see this guy actually take responsibility for his actions, instead of hiding and blaming Apple.

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  5. I think he lost a bit more than that... by reezle · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The article says he's a "recent graduate of North Carolina State University who is currently looking for a job". I can't imagine this kind of publicity is a good kind to have when you are out interviewing.

    Sure, most guys looking over the resumes aren't going to recognize the name, but there's got to be a company or two out there that actualy does the background checks.

    Anyways I can't imagine is prospects are all that hot right now...

  6. Re:figures.. by RikF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As far as Apple is concerned this is nothing at all to do with the money. It is entirely about putting out the message that if you sign a legally binding NDA and the distribute code/information then they will not stand idly by. The guy broke a contractual agreement that he had and I'm afraid he has to suffer the concequences.

    RikF

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  7. NDA's not so meaningless... by ch3ch2oh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    there is a widely-held view that NDA's are meaningless and un-enforcable. this shows clearly that is not the case. i'm sure apple wants a certain amout of publicity around this to get that point across.

  8. find a new line of work... by dioscaido · · Score: 5, Insightful

    from TFA: Steigerwald is actually not a student, but a recent graduate of North Carolina State University who is currently looking for a job.

    Well, thanks to this story he has officially been transitioned to the permanent tech no-hire pool. I don't think any company would want to hire someone who so blatantly broke an NDA, and made the headlines for it.

    I hear those people who drive snow plows make a killing. Maybe he can do that instead of software development.

  9. Jail time? by iamacat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "While Apple will always protect its innovations, it is not our desire to send students to jail,"

    I thought it was a civil case, or is Steve Jobs made a royalty here so that offending him carries jail sentences? Besides how exactly do you "settle" a criminal case?

  10. Stupid thing to do... by jonbeckett73 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any of us who work in the commercial sector will know that this guy only has himself to blame, and good on Apple for acting quickly. OSX is commercial software. He signed a NDA. He broke the terms of the agreement. End of story!

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  11. Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A financial settlement with a fresh college grad? You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

    What sort of settlement would you accept then? Corporal punishment? Or should Apple say "You naughty naughty boy, you pirated our software, but that's OK, we don't want any sort of punishment for you, otherwise emil (695) won't buy our products"?

  12. Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That college grad broke a contract and some laws. It's not like that stipulation in the ultra-fine print of the ADC agreement or a surprise to anyone. Anybody who receives a copy of software knows that they can't legally distribute it without permission. With open source, you know that you do have some permissions, but even with the GPL, there are restrictions. In the case of commercial software, it's almost certain that no end-user has permission to distribute, and in this case, the commercial software hasn't even been released yet. Many people do it, but it doesn't make it any more legal.

    I'm not sure how much the settlement is, but it is well within Apple's rights. Maybe they asked for and received a token amount just to make an example of him.

    For the record, MS has gone after people before. Parts of Win 2000/NT source code have been released. There has not been any news of capture but MS will probably use all their means to punish the offenders.

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  13. Tiger Preview by paithuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea of the early release is to give developers who are willing to pay significant money, a head start in developing their applications so that they use the very latest and greatest features of the new OS (which in case is spotlight, etc). If Apple weren't to take action against piracy like the for-mentioned then these developers would lose faith and it be a lose-lose situation all round (including the end customer/user).

  14. Your definition of "equitable" is bizarre by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Insightful
    By definition:

    coerce (k-ûrs)
    tr.v. coerced, coercing, coerces

    1. To force to act or think in a certain way by use of pressure, threats, or intimidation; compel.
    2. To dominate, restrain, or control forcibly: coerced the strikers into compliance. See Synonyms at force.
    3. To bring about by force or threat: efforts to coerce agreement.

    So if you want to call lessening the punishment "coherced", you can. Apple gets what it want, untrustworthy developer get what he wants. Others might call it an equitable settlement.

    "In exchange for an apology and being example to others (by signing this confession), we'll reduce the sentence from death to twenty years in the Gulag". So if you want to call lessening the punishment "coherced" [sic], you can. Russia gets what it wants, untrustworthy citizen get [sic] what he wants. Others might call it an equitable settlement.

    See the problem with your logic, and your definition? I hope so, even if you can't bring yourself to admit it publicly.

    I don't want to defend or excuse the actions of this fool for having disseminated Apple's secrets all over the net, violating not only the NDA, but trade secrets and copyright, but to call what happened "uncoerced" is to redefine the term along Newspeak guidelines.

    Was what he did wrong and illegal? Yes.
    Was the law clearly on Apple's side? Yes.
    Could it have been worse for the offendor? Yes.
    Was the offendor coerced into making a public apology and serving as a scary example to others? You bet he was.

    $10,000 is probably a lot to most any 22-year-old. $500,000 would have destroyed him. "Do what we tell you or we'll destroy you" is about as coercive as it gets, whether or not the one being coerced is on the right side of the law. If you have any doubt about this, I suggest referring to the definition of the word, which I have conveniently pasted above.
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    1. Re:Your definition of "equitable" is bizarre by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your understanding of the concept of "coercion" is oversimplified. You fail to take the circumstances of the supposed "coercion" into consideration.

      By your definition, any time anyone does something they don't want to do, they are "coerced". So I am being "coerced" by the government not to commit murder because if I did, they would throw me in jail for the rest of my life. Right?

      The word "coercion" completely loses its meaning if you really think it is supposed to be used this way.

    2. Re:Your definition of "equitable" is bizarre by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're using the definition in a somewhat correct way, but the context makes the tone of your comments a little off. "Coerced," as in "compelled," true. But if Apple just threw a dart at the phone book and decided to "coerce" someone into giving them $10k, it wouldn't hold up in court. This settlement stuck because it's the tail end of a process that the twaddle-headed developer started through his own (uncoerced) actions. What happened was the playing-out of his own, freely chosen behavior within a framework that he understood and within which he chose to act.

      There's no coercing there, but rather simple justice. Otherwise, you might argue that when you choose to jump off a building, you are then coerced into hitting the ground. Apple said, "You're going to hit the ground either way, buddy, so say you're sorry, and we'll put out something of a mattress for you."

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  15. Re:Praise be to apple!!! by idsofmarch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy broke a NDA, he signed an agreement not to release the software. This is speaks to the one of the foundation of our society, the ability to make an hold to an agreement.
    The ad hominem attack on Jobs is a nice little aside to the fact that the law recognizes agreements as important to the structure of business.
    Plus, it has to do with karma, Slashdot currently sees MS and the RIAA as entities without karma, both have done so many stupid and malicious things that they can't help but react with pitchforks and 'effigies'. Meanwhile, Apple has created nice products without finding interesting ways of screwing its customers. That's the difference; you shouldn't have gotten Troll but rather Redundant for saying something that has been in every thread here for the last year.
    Try to be more clever; like 'Reich-publicans' I like that.

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