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Culprit of Leaked Doctor Who Episode Found

marekk writes "The person responsible for leaking the premeire episode of the new BBC Doctor Who series has reportedly been uncovered and fired according to BBC . Looks like the speculation over possible viral advertising by the BBC didn't pan out. "

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  1. One Less to Cut? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    One less to cut?

    If you're not a regular follower of the BBC, there are large structural changes and job cuts afoot. Remember those glorious days you could catch the World Service via shortwave in North America? I still can, from the Carribean. But where am I supposed to watch the latest Dr. Who? Are there BBC TV channels carried via satellite? Will I be able to download it? I get blocked from live sports casts, which usually say 'to UK only'

    Note to /. ed: 'too-bad'

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    1. Re:One Less to Cut? by dauthur · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can still listen to World Service at night on any NPR station.

    2. Re:One Less to Cut? by Sentry21 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that the person who leaked the show worked for the CBC in Canada, not the BBC.

      Anyway, as for watching overseas, dozens of TV channels from around the world have picked up the series - except no American channels have decided to do so. If you can't get those channels, maybe you should talk to your local cable or satellite provider instead of complaining to the BBC.

  2. too bad.. by grub · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was hoping the rumours of it being an intentional leak were true. That leak generated a lot of interest in the new series. (and Rose is a good episode ;))

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    1. Re:too bad.. by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your way, the producer doesnt see any return on the pilot, whereas currently the networks purchase the pilot and air it, so the producer gets a return even if the rest of the series tanks. I dont think any producer can afford to take such a risk whereas the networks can.

    2. Re:too bad.. by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There was a quote from Russel T. Davies (the co-producer, and writer of the leaked episode) that I'll paraphrase because I can't track it down right now. But the essence of it was that despite others panic about the leak, he didn't see it as a bad thing.

      His logic was that only the hardcore fans will go to the trouble to download the episode, and that if it doesn't meet their expectations they'll only watch it 20 times instead of 30. New viewers will not be motivated to download it in the first place, and it's the opinion of these new viewers that will judge whether any version of Doctor Who is a success.

      It sounds like Mr. Davies really "gets" both the mentality of ardent series fan(atics) as well as the potential uses of the internet. I know he didn't have anything to do with the leak itself, but I bet he's glad that it wasn't just ignored. There'd be more worry if the show was leaked and people said "Don't bother with it". The leak did stir things up and should give him a wonderful headstart into editing, marketing, and leverage of the rest of the season.

      As a disclaimer, I am a Dr. Who fan. A friend tricked* me into watching the new episode. And, though I think it will stir up controversy among fans of older Doctors, I think it will be a wonderful new show that has the potential of rivaling Babylon 5 in terms of pacing, subtlety, and a larger tapestry of story arcs. (Seeds were planted in "Rose" but I have no idea how they'll be followed up in later episodes though).

      * I really don't like to listen to spoilers or see things in advance, but when my friend told me that he had the Fox movie (which I still hadn't seen) and I watched it. I firgured out early on that this wasn't the Fox movie, but I just couldn't stop at that point.

  3. Note to /. first poster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not a person at the BBC.

  4. Sounds like a cover up now more than before! by garcia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    BBC Worldwide said in a statement: "After a thorough investigation by BBC Worldwide's Canadian broadcast partner, the source of the leak of episode one of the new Doctor Who series has been traced to a third party company in Canada which had an early preview copy for legitimate purposes. The individual responsible for the leak has had their employment terminated by that company as a result.

    So basically they didn't like the possiblity of negative press over the viral advertising issue and decided to issue a vague statement that doesn't prove anything and instead leads me to believe even more now than before (I didn't care at all before) it's a cover up.

    1. Re:Sounds like a cover up now more than before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      instead leads me to believe even more now than before (I didn't care at all before) it's a cover up.

      It's not Watergate. It's Doctor Who.

    2. Re:Sounds like a cover up now more than before! by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh for heaven's sakes. It was a rough cut with unfinished editing, audio work, and SFX. They're not going to leak that deliberately, as it would (and did) reflect negatively on the show.

      It's a credit to the production staff that even that was so well recieved.

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    3. Re:Sounds like a cover up now more than before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It was a rough cut with unfinished editing, audio work, and SFX. They're not going to leak that deliberately, as it would (and did) reflect negatively on the show.


      It's Doctor Who... it's always got bad editing, audio and SFX!

    4. Re:Sounds like a cover up now more than before! by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So basically, you like the viral marketing story, and don't want to hear anything that contradicts it.

      People just have to have their conspiracy theories, even when they're a much simpler explanation.

  5. Viral advertising at it's best by gothzilla · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Employee leaks episode
    Damage control team decides to leak story of viral advertising
    Millions download the first Dr. Who episode

    Why not?

  6. Scapegoat? by DrKyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How come when a DVD or game gets leaked on the net people manage to get away with it but this poor chap not associated with the BBC gets tracked down and fired? Is he just really stupid, bad at covering his tracks, or someone they could blame?

    1. Re:Scapegoat? by Scorchio · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll never forget the time a salesman at a local electronics store tried to sell me a dodgy copy of a game I was still writing.

      I'm not sure if came from the publisher's test department, or a magazine preview copy, or what.

      He didn't work there for much longer.

  7. QUICK! by DragonMagic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Find the phone booth and go back to tell yourself NOT to leak the show!

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    1. Re:QUICK! by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can't do it. My phone booth always runs on San Dimas time.

    2. Re:QUICK! by fr2asbury · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because when he meets himself he usually IS a different character.
      I can't believe that so few people have caught on that James Bond must also be a Time Lord.

  8. Not a suprise by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I posted in the "speculation" news item, that the BBC is unlikely to do this type of thing. When looking for conspiracies one must take into account the character of the "persons" involved. The BBC is very above the board, and very conservative. Those two items combined made it hard to believe they would use misdirection in advertising. Combine that with the "accusers" were making wild speculation without any substantiation, and the conclusion of this story was obvious.

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  9. Advertising by a nationalized broacaster by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I must be missing something, but what reason could a nationalized television station possibly have to generate buzz? They've already got a captive audience that is required to pay up front whether they watch the channel or not. Who would think this was some sort of conspiracy to get viewers?

    I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, though. Dr. Who is good TV, and "lost episodes" are as legitimate as mainline stories in my book. It's kind of like the Star Wars books, sure they may not hold as steadfast to the primary memes of the movies, but in some respects that just makes them more intriguing and more related to the Star Wars universe than if they had followed the script rote.

    1. Re:Advertising by a nationalized broacaster by Winckle · · Score: 2, Informative

      While your point of us having to pay a licence fee is valid, the BBC has to meet certain targets to help convince the government that it deserves to have its royal charter renewed.

  10. Fired? Or fired upon? by Megane · · Score: 5, Funny
    The BBC has denied rumours claiming that they sacked him while chanting "EX-TER-MI-NATE! EX-TER-MI-NATE!"

    /planning to download and watch the official broadcast version too

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  11. Re:BBC is not conservative! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just in case you aren't joking: Conservative in their manner of business... not political viewpoints. The BBC is more fair and balanced than any major news organization we have in the states. CNN used to compete, in my mind. However, revelations about their handling of pre-war Iraq journalism has tainted them.

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  12. Re:zerg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He wasn't fired. He was exterminated.

  13. Lame, but... by nottsp1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least they know who the tard is...

  14. Tough read ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny
    Culprit of Leaked Doctor Who Episode Found

    Culprit of leaked, Doctor Who episode found.
    Culprit of leaked doctor, who episode found.
    Culprit of leaked Doctor Who, episode found.
    Culprit, of leaked Doctor, Who, episode found.

    Man. It took several false starts to actually be able to fully decode this headline. It seemed strangely right-recursive.
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    1. Re:Tough read ... by Enigma_Man · · Score: 3, Funny

      That reminds me of one of my favorite bash quotes:

      Capitalization is the difference between:
      I helped my uncle Jack off a horse.
      and
      I helped my uncle jack off a horse.

      I salute you!

      -Jesse

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  15. No world service by Dekks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reason they no longer do shortwave world service to north america is because its available on most NPR stations, but also because its available 24/7 streaming over the web, as is all of their radio stations. Why bother broadcasting to a country where internet access is a given for the the majority of the country in crackly unreliable shortwave when you can get it in crackly unreliable but much easier to access internet feeds?

    1. Re:No world service by Dekks · · Score: 3, Informative

      I refer you sir to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/freque ncies/index.shtml Where you will find frequencies for: AFRICA West & Central Africa North Africa East Africa Southern Africa ASIA - PACIFIC East Asia South East Asia SOUTH ASIA South Asia MIDDLE EAST Middle East & Gulf States Afghanistan, Iran & Central Asia EUROPE West & South West Europe Central & South East Europe Eastern Europe & FSU AMERICAS Central America & Caribbean South America Sorry, what was your point again?

    2. Re:No world service by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The poster requested a BBC shortwave signal in NORTH AMERICA, i.e. United States and Canada. You know the former colonies from way back when? We kinda like the BBC to see how the folks "back home" are doing! ;)

  16. Picture of the culprit by raider_red · · Score: 5, Funny

    A picture of the culprit can be found here.

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  17. Different ways to misread the subject by Timothy+Chu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Culprit of Leaked Doctor Who Episode Found

    I had no idea how to read the subject line until I jumped into the comments. Might have been easier if they had put "Doctor Who" in quotes.

    Different ways to have read the subject:
    Culprit of the Leaky Doctor (he soiled himself) was found (while watching) an Episode (of Desperate Housewives)
    Culprit of leak? A clumsy Doctor! Who found the episode?

  18. Re:Where in the U.S.? by zzyzx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone who can get a CBC channel (such as us in Seattle who have cable) can watch it on that.

  19. Those responsible for the sacking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    have just been sacked.

  20. Re:Sacked! by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny
    We apologise for the early release of the episode. Those responsible have been sacked. [Then it becomes known the released episode is higher quality that what you'll get on TV] We apologise again for the accidental release of such a high-quality version. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

    In fact the whole team responsible has been sacked, and the episode was re-done at the last minute, and at great expense, buy a bunch of Peruvian Llamas.

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  21. Re:Doctor who by TomV · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you have any information about "The Doctor", if you or anyone you know has seen him, please submit a report to this site, which is trying to put together some sort of coherent answer to the question in the parent post.

    Do not approach him if you see him however, as he has a long history of association with death and destruction. Don't bother reporting him to the authorities, as there is evidence of a long-running cover-up, but be very careful as he is clearly an extremely dangerous man.

  22. Re:But.. where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    here - Not a BBC employee or agent.

  23. Spelling correction? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since the show has BBC Wales in the credits, shouldn't it be "Culprit of Leeked Doctor Who Episode Found"?

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  24. Re:Fired? by elgatozorbas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who cares about a "firm warning" and what deterring impact would that have on others?
    May sound harsh, but they just had to throw him out if they wanted to keep _some_ credibility.
    BTW, many posters here seem to think the guy did the BBC a favour by leaking the DVD. However, this is not up to /. to decide but to the BBC...

  25. MOD PARENT UNDERRATED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, I like Dr Who too, but a polite "Sorry, I don't like it" still doesn't deserve Flamebait modification. Jees, there are some silly children amongst the moderators.