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Web Browsing on Your PSP
yodha writes "A guy has hacked the hidden browser inside the PSP to view external webpages. His webpage has info on that, some screenshots and a video. Yes, you can get Slashdot on a PSP! The PSINext forum and engadget are covering the same news."
This reminds me of a little Slashdot article about CSS, plus the ongoing Slashdot forum about redoing Slashdot in XHTML and CSS. Now that PSP has browser functionality, I think it's imperative for web developers to examine their sites for usability. I would be interested to see how DHTML is handled on the PSP, for example, by testing the Milonic package. I seriously doubt it would work very well on PSP, but you never know.
This raises the issue of UserAgent sniffing. Right now I'm developing an Open Source CMS called Gemsites (link in sig), and I'm considering supporting cut-down templates for PocketPC, Palm and (now) PSP. I've got the code set up to sniff the UserAgent and make a decision on it, thanks to php.net's user-assist messages in the function database. But now I'm wondering if my whole CMS will stand up to the more compact screens used by PSP et al. I guess what I'm saying is that if you're a developer and you know CSS/XHTML and/or PHP, I would like to talk to you about usability.
Could it be that his PSP browsing /. adds to the /. effect of the story about him browsing /. with his PSP?
But how the hell do you type anything on that?
It says that a keybord API pops up when you're in an input box (like Google's Search).
From TFA
"Yes you can use input (we googled stuff), when you enter a textbox and press X the PSP pops up the Keyboard API (remember there's alot of API to be taken advantage of with the PSP). After that its as simple as any other input on the PSP."
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Jolyon
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cmon this news is like a day old already *yawn*
Is interesting, but of course you know that means that if he could hack his self out other willcan hack in, so waiting for the upcoming exploits and patches ;)
Think like a hacker, act like a hacker, but never become a hacker !
This parses full HTML and in a much better environment in terms of visual display. As for whoever asked about the keyboard, when you click in an entry field I'm sure a keyboard entry system comes up like when you set up your PSP, not outstanding, but not tough either.
So with a browsing solution out there, and obvious easier to implement hacks on the way, who flinches first and releases their web browser? PSP or DS? You know they both have them up their sleeves, or will we all just have to wait until E3 like good kids?
What browser though? What plug ins will be made and other such questions could do with answering.
Then can someone tell me why I'd want to use a PsP when I can use a laptop or a desktop just the same and not need to wardrive or be at home?
I like muppets.
As per the Slashdot article from yesterday, PSP Reception Lukewarm in US?
"According to IGN sales of the PSP have been lukewarm, with many outlets selling as little as 10 out of the 80 units they received."
The potential to run homebrew code and fiddle with a PSP surely increases it's desirability, especially amongst the geek market? I haven't bought a DS yet, mainly due to the fact the PSP looks a hell of a lot better, the mention of PSP hacking has certainly pushed this higher up my list.
Gadgetspy
Someone has already kindly setup a portal for all you people who want to view this without setting up a DNS server or from any access point.
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You can see his portal with your web browser (computer) here:
http://67.171.70.72/wipeout/index.html
To use this on your PSP simply set your DNS to 67.171.70.72 inside the network settings then go into Wipeout Pure and hit Download.
For more information visit this dudes website avaliable at:
http://fugimax.base2.org/
In other news the PSP firmware has been updated on the Japanese handhelds. See the following forum thread for more info:
http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=1201&sta
For those curious you can extract the files from the update by using this C program avaliable on the following site:
http://www.oopo.net/consoledev/files/unpack-pbp.c
Enjoy!
Have you metaroderated recently?
1. Only native Nintendo Games will be released
Nintendo Homebrew and hacking
2. Nobody uses a DS anyway , only little 5 year old kids called Timmy who don't even know what Slashdot is.
Yes, because games like metroid and goldeneye are aimed at 5 year olds.
Just remember, god hates console fanboys
I think he's running his webserver on it too. *bows head*
I believe that every widely distributed browser has had at least one run-arbitrary-code exploit found.
So, wagers on how long until unsigned code can run on PSPs?
Now I have to buy this little Sony wonder.
His website will be back up in 3 days...
It occurs to me that with both 802.11b and an awesome screen, the PSP would be an really great platform for the Minimo project.
Maybe it's time for the Minimo developers to go down to Best Buy and dip into that Mozilla Foundation money (no extended service contracts though).
~jeff
Browsing widescreen nudity on the bus. I knew the day would come!
Next, you'll be saying we can get Slashdot with Firefox!
..ducks..
Sometimes Slashdot editor complain about the fact that everything is riddled with ads. This http://www.fumanchuu.com/pspdev/P1010066.JPG is very ironic (notice the ad in the picture). An ad, in a Slashdot page, blocked on a hacked device. That's [triple] irony for you!
Pat
Weird how I enjoy both Yoshi's Touch and Go on my DS with it's pastel colors while I can enjoy a good game of Ninja Gaiden on my Xbox or Resident Evil 4 on the GameCube.
Don't buy into the age group propaganda. I'm 24 and see games only as they are, regardless of the look : games. A good game doesn't rely on the user being a certain age to enjoy it. If you let yourself be limited by that, then too bad for you.
It says that it scrolls automatically. For all we know some way of entering an URL could already be around in the code, but disabled because they don't want you to use this particular version of the browser as a general web browser.
It could be interesting, but they may just use it as an interface for content download etc.
10 PRINT "LOOK AROUND YOU ";
20 GOTO 10
The browser is not fully HTML compliant. It doesn't even parse <h1> tags.
guy: hey
guy: what's up man?
(10 minutes later)
PSP: y-o-,- -I-'-m- -t-y-p-i-n-g- -o-n- -m-y- -P-S-P- -I-R-C- -c-l-i-e-n-t
You're right, digital signatures and encryption have never been cracked.
~jeff
It's been done.
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Tell me. If this thing can surf the web do you think you can make it work like a computer? Could you, say, program the PSP? Wow! Just think, people could write their own programs. Hell, maybe you could even write games for it. Imagine that, games on a pocket sized device!
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
I assume that was meant as a joke, but it brings up a really good point. Put on your tinfoil hats and wax with me a moment...
What if the designers of the PSP made their APIs as open as possible in order to entice people to cook up emulators for the platform? Of course, they could never admit this publically, but what if one handheld, in this case the PSP, could emulate a competitor's product? Conventional Wisdom tells us that an emulator usually won't be able to emulate a current system's hardware effectively, but if the PSP could, say, play GBA and N64 games in addition to playing its own titles, it could be an unstoppable device.
Naturally, Sony would have to condemn anyone running competing games on their platform lest they get charged with unfair business practices, but behind closed doors this could be exactly what Sony needs to gain major market share over Nintendo in this market.
Course, I could be wrong.
It's not age group propoganda. Lot's of people just don't find "colorful" games all that appealing. For example, I found the mechanics of Wind Waker to be great, but the game itself to be quite boring, becuase the world it portrayed just wasn't very engrossing. Let me use an analogy. I don't watch romantic comedies. They can be perfectly entertaining and good movies in their own right, but I still don't find them enjoyable, mainly because of their subject-matter. The same is true for me and "kiddie" games.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Have you seen these? $280 7in USB touch screen monitor. Perfect for in car computers. ...I'd rather have a PSP, though :-)
Here's an example:
Zelda 1 involved controlling Link in a top-view and solving puzzles and defeating enemies in a dungeon to get the triforce pieces.
Zelda 2 involved a side-scrolling Link, and was more action-based than the previous title.
Super Metroid, arguably the greatest 2D platformer of all time, involves a side-view of Samus as you go through the planet in search of the last Metroid.
Metroid Prime brings the game into the 3D realm, a first person adventure game involving light platforming and lots of shooting and exploring.
Those examples are better examples of "ports that are original from the sequel" than your "Halo on the PC is different from Halo on the Xbox" example...
I swear, this kiddy argument is the biggest pile of shit I've ever seen...You're acting like a pre-teen, wanting to "prove" your adulthood...Guess what buddy? I'm 22, and I'm pretty comfortable with my adulthood; I don't need my videogames to tell people I'm "mature." If you need your games to do that, then that's the furthest from the definition of "being mature" that you can get.
The casual gamers like yourself have forgotten that games just need to be fun. If games stop being about fun and start being about image, then what is the point to videogaming?
Holy heck this is a pain to do....... key api is cumbersome at best.
Applications that have been produced already will really increase the marketability of the PSP in the following months, and this is just the beginning.
I think by making it exploitable, sony have increased their market demographic hugely
Business Voyeur
I usually avoid user agent detection, simply because I don't want to keep up with the different browsers. I rarely do anything that can't be supported on all of the major browsers at the time.
...then I don't think you've done much. It's not about doing something that is not supported - it's fixing bugs via CSS. Box model, some defaults must be overridden to get equal output on all browsers, and lots of various workarounds for various differing implementations. Yeah, yeah I *shouldn't* have to do that. Reality sometimes bites.
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
You'd really struggle to emulate an N64 on the PSP. Not just because the controls don't match too well, but because it almost certainly doesn't have the processing power to pull it off.
A Genesis/SNES emulator would totally kick ass though. If someone gets Linux onto the PSP, you can count on it happening too.
I was pretty sure both device use a very similar processor (R4000 modified). I think thats would be very possible to play N64 games on a PSP, you almost have to "emulate" nothing. The CPU would do it natively. Theory, but still !