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GTA3 and Vice City now Online Multiplayer

glengineer writes "A deep bow and an "I'm not worthy" to Kent Simon, at the University of Kentucky, Ed Lyons in London, and Chris McArthur in Canada who have made the dream come true for GTA fanatics like me - GTA3 and Vice City online multiplayer! Now I can streetrace and play Liberty City Survivor with real people, not just use the "crazy pedestrians" cheat. Rockstar would be nuts not to hire these guys. So, anyone up for a deathmatch? Meet me at the Malibu Club in Vice, or the construction site on Staunton Island."

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  1. GTA online by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    GTA online won't work. it's far too easy to die in GTA to some bastard in a fast car, unless you've got a rocketlauncher you arn't going to stop that little kid who repeatedly runs you over outside the hospital.

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  2. GTA 4 by xtracto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe someone should note that the mod is for GTA3. The original Grand Theft Auto had multiplayer right out of the box. I can't remember if it was LAN only or if internet play was possible as well. But then that was a PC only game, right.

    I wonder if precious features such as multiplayer will get rarer, now that many hit titles are ported from various consoles to proper computers. In this case the game was released with the unfinished multiplayer code and some dedicated people are getting it to work. Why did the original programmers give up at what appears to be more than half way through?

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    1. Re:GTA 4 by shawb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder if precious features such as multiplayer will get rarer

      Not really. Right now multiplayer seems to be the easiest way to implement anti-piracy measures.

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  3. Hire? by foxtrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rockstar would be nuts not to hire these guys.

    Or, given the current US corporate attitude,

    "Rockstar would be nuts not to sue these guys."

    1. Re:Hire? by faloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right. Rockstar can't afford to hire them. As ramped up as some Senators appear to be to go after 'em, the thought of having it online and "encouraging violence against specific others and not just random people" is probably frightening to their lawyers. And even if they liked the idea, and wanted to hire 'em, it probably increases the liability Rockstar faces. But then...I'm not a lawyer. Most of my soul is still intact :)

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  4. Your attitude always stuns me by CMiYC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously people, learn some fucking

    When I visited Eastern Europe this past fall, I learned the truth to a myth. The rest of the world doesn't know anymore about the United States than the United States knows about the rest of the world. Turns out, Europeans are pretty "me-centric" too. Many of them only know about the immediately specific area around them. I was amazed at how hypocritical this type of attitude is.

    I also found that after I introduced myself, nobody cared what specific-city (or state) I was from. I was, "the American dude."

    1. Re:Your attitude always stuns me by RoundSparrow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Turns out, Europeans are pretty "me-centric" too. Many of them only know about the immediately specific area around them. I was amazed at how hypocritical this type of attitude is. and .... I also found that after I introduced myself, nobody cared what specific-city (or state) I was from. I was, "the American dude."

      Europe has seen too many Americans, and too many insulting movies that portray europe.

      I've been living 6 months in South America (Chile) and things are very different here... Especially in the slightly out of the way places.

      1. They have very little real experience with the USA... travel is still expensive to the USA. And they know a lot from movies and actually think the USA is a great place... but not based on direct experience.
      2. They often are very interested in what city I am from (Seattle)... they are actually happy to see someone from the states here, to pratice their English, etc.

      But your main point is right (you said "I learned the truth to a myth. The rest of the world doesn't know anymore about the United States than the United States knows about the rest of the world.")... The USA does not have a monopoly on ignorance.

      HOWEVER: People in the USA have the education and the financial resources to go out and make friends... but they choose not to. This is a bad thing, to squander the wealth and freedom. With the advent of Sea and Air travel it was considered an ideal to go visit distance places... most in the USA would rather seem to just stay home and watch it on TV and build fences. This is not a good policy... and how are we supposed to bridge these knowledge/personal relationship gaps?

    2. Re:Your attitude always stuns me by Mant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Way off topic but what the hey, so was the parent and it got modded up.

      I'm from the UK, and I lived and worked in the US (Chicago) for a while. The thing I noticed was that in the US you had to go to more effort to get news about the rest of the world. The news was pretty much all US, or foreign things the US was directly involved in. You were exposed to less about the rest of the world unless you put a bit more effort in. However, it didn't take much (news.bbc.co.uk ;) ).

      Also, I don't know about Eastern Europe, but a lot of Western Countries like UK, France and Spain still have close ties to their former empires, as well as quite a lot of immigrants from those countries bring those cultures with them.

      I've not visited Eastern Europe, but the impression I think most people in the west would have (rightly or wrongly) is they are more insular.

      Of course you can be exposed to foreign countries and cultures and still be ignorant. Most people will be me-centric and mostly concerened about what happens around them, human nature.

    3. Re:Your attitude always stuns me by Erwos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "HOWEVER: People in the USA have the education and the financial resources to go out and make friends... but they choose not to."

      Travelling to the other coast of the US is like travelling from Spain to Russia. Americans don't get out of the country too much because they already have way more country to explore than your average European does.

      You are also forgetting that the current exchange rates make it a much better option for Europeans to come to the US than vica versa. When the dollar rises a bit, and the cost of travel becomes cheaper, I would expect to see more foriegn travel.

      "With the advent of Sea and Air travel it was considered an ideal to go visit distance places..."

      This was "ideal" was most likely invented by the travel industry. Different people and cultures have different priorities, often influenced by geographical factors.

      -Erwos

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    4. Re:Your attitude always stuns me by hkb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Turns out, Europeans are pretty "me-centric" too. Many of them only know about the immediately specific area around them.

      This is a good thing, not a bad thing. People need to worry about "their own shit" and stop being so "globally aware".

      "Globally aware" people are the kinds that voice thier uneducated opinions about something they don't know. See also the DMCA, privacy, anti-gun rights people, etc.

      If more people just stuck to being "me-centric" the world would be a better place.

      Interesting comment though, thanks!

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    5. Re:Your attitude always stuns me by listen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The population of the UK is 60 million. It is a fifth of the US. So its not *that* different - its bigger than any of the states, the region or the city you decided to mention. I have a hard time believing that you think land area determines how much news a place generates...

      Could you please try to experience the media in another country before making random judgements about it? American media is horribly insular, and no one I know who has lived outside the US would dispute that. The main reasons are the general insularity of the popular culture ( especially away from the coasts), and the monopolisation of the news media by tycoons with vested interests. Its not normal, please don't take it at face value.

  5. MMORPG? by flatass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The idea of a GTA3 death match is nice and all, but what about an MMORPG based GTA3? Obviously, lots of the way the game works would need to change; Larger cities, leveling up, etc. but it seems like an interesting idea to me anyhow. This coming from someone who has never played an MMORPG before, but perhaps this would be the title to pull the monthly fees from my pocket....

  6. Re:It always stuns me by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's the second biggest country on the fucking planet!

    Please ignore China, Russia, and maybe Brazil and Australia.

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  7. Re:Any chance of litigation? by k98sven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't imagine that what they've done doesnt break some copyright law somewhere

    They're not circumventing a copyright-protection device, so they're not violating the DMCA.

    Possibly, they could be violating the End-User License Agreement on the game, if it includes an anti-reverse-engineering clause. Although it's anyone's guess as to if they'd be able to enforce it.

    what are the odds Rockstar sues?

    "Very, very, small" Seems like a good guess to me.
    Why would they?

    1) These guys don't have any money.
    2) They're not making any money off it.
    3) Rockstar isn't losing any money off it, more likely the opposite.

    Doesn't seem like they'd get much in damages. Hardly enough to outweigh the lawyer costs and PR damages.

    Besides, there are only upsides to people doing this stuff. It extends the life of the game and generates more interest and sales. Game developers know this. The general trend in the last 10 years has been towards accomodizing people who want to mod games, not sueing them.

    It's not like this is a trademark issue, where you have to go after people or you risk losing it.

  8. Re:I still dont understand by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Insightful
    i still dont understand why Rockstar didnt implement some kind of multiplayer mode in Vice City.

    Possibly because they realise (like a lot of people who develop games) that adding multiplayer isn't just a case of adding some network and client/server code (and testing it, of course).

    Your game should be fun - as some people have pointed out, the mechanics of GTA mean it's not that fun in multiplayer - too many things people can do to be annoying, etc. Maybe they tried it out (the reason some of the code is in there, I guess) but found that it just wasn't fun without changing the gameplay mechanics of the game in some serious ways.

    GTA probably(!) cost a lot to develop, and they didn't want to add on the cost of properly implementing multiplayer, changing game mechanics, and testing it all (it would be expensive to test).

  9. Re:It always stuns me by donscarletti · · Score: 1, Insightful
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  10. Re:Any chance of litigation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless Rockstar planned to release this feature as an expansion to the existing PC games. ..which is just pure speculation on your part. And even if they did, the damages would have to be pure speculation, since this 'expansion' hasn't materialized.

    The burden of proving damages is on plaintiff, not on the defendant.

  11. Re:It always stuns me by Snowdog668 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    most Americans think Vancouver, WA

    There's a Vancouver in Washington? I guess I'm not part of your "most" since when I hear Vancouver I immediately think of BC.

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  12. Re:So.. by CreatureComfort · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Gotta appreciate the relative morality...

    In-game fantasy rape is immoral, but in-game fantasy murder is a great wholesome pastime.

    Even better, real-life public endangerment and the possiblity of actually killing someone in an accident are great times... "Man those were the days..."

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  13. Re:Welcome to 2003 by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You wouldn't accept a newspaper that duplicated articles on different pages would you? Yeah, you could say that a newspaper is paid for, but remember that we all pay for Slashdot in some way (subs, time, ad impressions etc.). If someone was surfing late at night, sees the 'Next story ready soon' blurb and decides to go to bed after reading it, it's a bit of a kick in the balls if they've read it a couple of hours ago.

    It's not like Slashdot is some tin pot operation, it's a globally famous service approaching a million members. It's for these reasons, also including spelling mistakes in summaries and titles (yes, titles!) that people are irritated at every occurance. I never post these complaints myself, but I can sympathise with those who do.

    How about this: we'll stop complaining when you can employ editors that can proofread and carry out a little research, ok?

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