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Prsident Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program

CDQZ writes "US President George W Bush declared today that he had signed a rare presidential decree canceling any further expenditure of Federal funds on the US Space Shuttle program."

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  1. I'm not quite sure how .... by isometrick · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... but ... is this really the frist post? Wow.

    1. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by Rei · · Score: 1

      Bizarre. Perhaps Prsident Bush had the other messages deleted? :)

      Anyways, happy April Fools day everyone!

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    2. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naw... everybody's jaws are just dropping at the number of /. articles that are april 1 jokes.

    3. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1
      It is a bit much at this point. I really wanted the Gsat thing to be true.. :-(

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    4. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not speak the name of Senator Frist in vain. He has superpower and can do medical diagnosis from examining your fingerprint. All hail Senator Frist Psot.

    5. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by aklix · · Score: 1

      Bush got re-elected president?! Oh god I thought his term was up... I should get out more.

    6. Re:I'm not quite sure how .... by Rhoon · · Score: 1

      Not sure why anyone is surprised by this fact. It was predicted a day after Bush announced he was appropriating $12 Billion for NASA to goto Mars. At that time NASA was already receiving $11 Billion, so the difference was $1 Billion to formulate a mission to land a human on Mars. If that's all it took to get to Mars, we'd all be there by now. I'll try dig up the articles, but they were in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science or one of those Magazines. NASA, while known for it's contributions to Space Exploration is 95% research and 95% of it's Budget is going to funding the shuttle, I'm just as disappointed and pissed as the rest of you to see it moth balled after we spent all the money to fix the thing after Columbia (We could have used that money to create a new program). But, C'est la Vie when the President has to budget such huge tax cuts, after all the money doesn't come from nowhere.

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  2. Second Post? by xQuarkDS9x · · Score: 1

    Stupid of Bush to cancel it. Ah well. :p

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  3. hmm by QQoicu2 · · Score: 1, Funny

    so what, are we boycotting this supposed "april-fools mediocrity" by going on a posting strike?

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    1. Re:hmm by Practice · · Score: 1

      i hate april fools day

  4. vEry FuNnIes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nice APrIl fOOlz dayses jokE

  5. The Mysterious Past by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Hmm. That's interesting. An article posted 6 hours ago just showed up on the front page. With the misspelling and glorious lack of editing.

    We shall stand back in awe at this article from The Mysterious Past...

    As for the "story" itself, I wouldn't particularly mind if it were true... but then again, I didn't RTFA.

  6. Its a conspirices! by SWTP_OS9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Art Bell cover this last week along with Richard C Hoglan. Yea the monument of Mars guy.

    This the so called problems with the Space Station and the Hubble being forced off line. Its to hid the fact that Planet X is comming next month to smash into the Earth. Wiping out everthing!

    They want to use the remining shuttles as escape pod for key memebers of the goverment.

    Kind of Ta Ta! And thanks you for the Fish!

  7. What date is it today?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well?

  8. Pope by JoaoPinheiro · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think everyone's too busy posting on all the April Fools threads to actually read news.
    Maybe tomorrow we'll have a video of the Pope on TV saying "Haha! Prank! Fooled ya!!"

    1. Re:Pope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Maybe tomorrow we'll have a video of the Pope on TV saying "Haha! Prank! Fooled ya!!"

      God I hope not. That asshole deserves to burn in the hell he believes in for all the attempts at pushing his religious social agenda worldwide.

      Campaigning against contraception in this day and age??? Lets pay no attention to the fact that HIV is spreading just as wildly as ever, and people are suffering immensely because of it.

      Speaking out against stem cell research? Again, he doesn't give a damn how much his influence on the world causes heartache and pain, as long as he can convince people to tithe 10% to the Church for their new gold-plated statues of Mary. (Yeah, I know most people don't tithe 10% any more in developed countries, but it is still very, very common elsewhere. The Church gets rich and fat of the poorest of its followers).

      No, I hope it isn't April Fools. I want that bastard suffering in agony for as long as possible before he dies. And I will laugh when he does.

  9. Tricks? by rabbit78 · · Score: 1

    Hmm, trying to read the article, Firefox tells me it has blocked a popup window, but nevertheless opening one. This is not kind. In addition to that I cannot (easily) go back using the back button. Ugly site...

  10. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    During the press conference Bush told reporters, "I don't want to see another NASA administrator - appointed on my watch - left to justify a program to Congress based on lies, dis-information, half-truths and sexed up reports."

    Would it help if we meniotned the Weapons of Mass Destruction that can be found there?

  11. lol by protocol420 · · Score: 1

    haha.. april fools! (I hope)

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  12. Hah hah. Very funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really hate this stupid f'ing "holiday". . . .

  13. I know it's april fools... by Transcendent · · Score: 1

    ...but that's a stretch. Bush supported a large increase for funding to NASA a little while back, so it's a complete 360.

    April fools jokes need to be more subtle. :)

    1. Re:I know it's april fools... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you meant a complete 180 right.

    2. Re:I know it's april fools... by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      I prefer doing 540's just to throw everyone off.

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    3. Re:I know it's april fools... by Transcendent · · Score: 1

      The extra 180 was added for a "bushisms" effect.

      Guess that's an inside joke... nevermind...

    4. Re:I know it's april fools... by Repugnant_Shit · · Score: 1

      A complete 180

    5. Re:I know it's april fools... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check your news sources again. His "large increase" was essentially a massaged figure. In reality, NASA has had their expenditure cut back from what they were supposed to receive. The money has been tied up in ways they can't really make best use of, and Bush is an asshole as always.

    6. Re:I know it's april fools... by alienmole · · Score: 1
      April fools jokes need to be more subtle. :)
      Um, hello...? Subtle? This is Slashdot.
  14. This is obviously an April Fools' by MrEd · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the Bush Administration cancelled the space shuttle program, they'd do it by passing a "Space Access Freedom Act". Except it would be better named, and would work out to an acronym of SUPER or SPACETACULAR or STARS or something like that.

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    1. Re:This is obviously an April Fools' by drhamad · · Score: 1

      SUPERCRAPTACULAR Act of 2005?

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    2. Re:This is obviously an April Fools' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it would be the "Private Space Flight Initiative" :-)

    3. Re:This is obviously an April Fools' by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

      If the Bush Administration cancelled the space shuttle program, they'd do it by passing a "Space Access Freedom Act".

      Except it woudln't be the Bush Administration passing the law, it would be congress.

      Back to civics class with you!

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    4. Re:This is obviously an April Fools' by MrEd · · Score: 1

      I'm Canadian, sue me. What's the difference between a Republican Congress and the Bush Administration? Not much.

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  15. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ROFLMAO, idiots.

  16. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

    Second most powerful nation? And whom would the most powerful nation be?

  17. along the same lines by studoug · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Astronomy Picture of the Day site http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html is about breaking news the water has been found on mars.

    : 0

    1. Re:along the same lines by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks for the link, but, next year, if they do something regarding Uranus, I don't think I want to know about it.

  18. Well, there is one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only interesting thing about this article is the fact that so few people have posted in reply to a front-page article. Still, it is April 1st, and /. has been on dead-horse beating mode...

  19. Let's cancel goverment also by zebdog · · Score: 1

    According to the article, Bush says "I don't want to see another NASA administrator - appointed on my watch - left to justify a program to Congress based on lies, dis-information, half-truths and sexed up reports."

    Using that logic, shouldn't we cancel everything the US goverment does!

  20. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I just want to know when you will donate your heart and kidneys to someone who, unlike yourself, can do something useful with them.

    Your brain, obviously being putrid mush, can be fed to cockroaches.

  21. This must be a joke... by SquireCD · · Score: 1

    because the article says that the press at the white house received Easter Eggs from officials. Surely not.... right?

  22. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The British of course. God save the Queen!

  23. apart from today's date by smittyman · · Score: 1

    I believe there stupid enough to do it anyway....

    On the other hand, since the US is almost broke they will have no option but to cancel in the near future, would be a shame though.

    Anyways Ebay bids start at 100 euro's...

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    1. Re:apart from today's date by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe there stupid enough to do it anyway....

      Anyone else see the irony?

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    2. Re:apart from today's date by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      ONOS Peak Oil!!

      Killer Asteroid

      Mutant Supervirus Bird Flu!!

      The Rapture is coming!!

      the world is going to end!!!

    3. Re:apart from today's date by Keplin · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the laugh!

  24. apart from the date by smittyman · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I believe there stupid enough to do it anyway....

    On the other hand, since the US is almost broke they will have no option but to cancel in the near future, would be a shame though.

    Anyways Ebay bids start at 100 euro's...

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  25. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by Red_Icculus · · Score: 1

    Jerry Falwell's moral majority!

  26. April Fools by xanos3001 · · Score: 1

    This has to be a joke. The shuttle is schedule to launch in May. Please tell me this is a joke.

    1. Re:April Fools by st1d · · Score: 1

      This is not a joke. On the internet, jokes are clearly marked with smilies. :-)

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    2. Re:April Fools by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

      I don't know. Why don't you just read the article (you know, the pages all these stories link to in their description) and find out? I think you'll see...

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  27. Gullible geeks... by MayorDefacto · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Jeez louise, I mean, I know that a lot of us here have Asperger tendencies and don't pick up on subtle social cues (and even more simply don't RTFA), but I can't believe how many people are falling for this obvious April Fool's troll!!!

    Sometimes geeks can be so gullible...

    1. Re:Gullible geeks... by warriorpostman · · Score: 1

      I thought it was slightly suspicious. BUT, the last quote of the article where Bush says that they might sell the space shuttle on Ebay; it sounded like something he might say.

      ...so yes, I was FOOLED!

  28. fool's evidence by LuxFX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this paragraph gives it away:

    During the press conference Bush told reporters, "I don't want to see another NASA administrator - appointed on my watch - left to justify a program to Congress based on lies, dis-information, half-truths and sexed up reports."

    The way I see it, it's basically commentary on how the WMD reports and the failure to find any. There was a new report that came out a couple of days ago saying that our intelligence was, quote, "dead wrong." I think this is a reference to that report.

    (at least, I hope...)

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  29. Holy Crap. by NardofDoom · · Score: 1
    He did something I agree with.

    (Yes, I know it's an April Fool's joke. A foolish nation and its overpriced, underperforming launch system are not soon parted.)

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  30. (OT) your sig by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

    try http://slashdot.org/zoo.pl?op=check&uid=<uid&gt; -- it'll take you to your "relationship" page for that user. I don't know if there's a better way.

    1. Re:(OT) your sig by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      http://slashdot.org/users.pl?uid=822545

      Someone else told me about five minutes ago :) Thanks, though!

      Time to change that sig...

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  31. Bush is one of NASA's few supporters by Banner · · Score: 1, Informative

    And if you weren't such a Bush hater you would have realized that this isn't really a good April Fool's joke.

    Now something like: 'Bush offers to be among first lunar/mars colonists if Congress agrees to fund it', could have been spun into a much funnier joke that both sides could have gotten a laugh out of.

    1. Re:Bush is one of NASA's few supporters by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      And if you weren't such a Bush hater you would have realized that this isn't really a good April Fool's joke.

      There are quite a few NASA supporters who think the aged, underperforming and overpriced shuttle program should be canceled as well.

  32. Gotta be a prank by NRP128 · · Score: 1

    Bush says "we got these at walmart"

    The only association that man has ever had with a Wal-Mart may be reviewing their stock options. You don't buy stuff from Wal-Mart if you wear Armani...

  33. I wish they really would cancel it! by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm in *favor* of having a manned space program, but the Space Shuttle is a f$%^ing useless waste of money, now that it's only going to be used to get to the ISS, which is also a huge waste of money. It would be better to cancel both and spend the money on doing the next generation of space vehicles and stations properly, rather than having Congress and the administration whittle away at them until nothing useful remains.

    Anyone remember what STS, as in "mission STS-nnn" stands for? It was supposed to be a Space Transportation System. The shuttle was originally intended to be one component of the system, but due to budget cutbacks the rest of the system didn't get built.

    Similarly, due to budget cutbacks, the ISS can't be staffed enough to do any worthwhile research. Although they're still planning to expand it (which will be completed by about the time it has reached the end of its working life), they never built the crew escape vehicle, so they still can't have more than three astronauts/cosmonauts there unless the space shuttle is nearby.

    People say that the space program is worthwhile for the technologies developed and spun off, but the Space Shuttle hasn't been doing that for years now. It's the space equivalent of a beat-up '57 pickup truck. At least it's useful if it can service something that does produce worthwhile results, like the Hubble. But if it can't do that any longer, what's the point?

    C'mon, if we're going to build a space vehicle, let's build something that can actually go somewhere. And if we're going to build a space station, let's build something big enough to be useful (ideally rotating), with escape vehicles designed from the outset, rather than being an afterthought that gets cancelled.

    I'm fairly happy with Bush's space plan, but let's do away with the ridiculous crap we're wasting money on now. I don't see any point to more shuttle missions if they're not going to service the Hubble.

    And as far as the supposed risk goes, I doubt that NASA would have any trouble whatsoever getting enough of their astronauts to volunteer for a Hubble servicing mission, even if it is believed to be somewhat more risky than a mission to ISS. Note that NASA has not even done the risk analysis for a Hubble mission; they just decided a priori that it's dangerous!

    Sigh.

    1. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by Kymermosst · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wish they really would cancel it!

      That was my first thought, too, upon seeing this Slashdot post.

      The shuttle is damn expensive to operate, as this guy points out.

      The single biggest problem is, IMNSHO, is that the shuttle was designed three decades ago, and is still a first-generation vehicle. Sure, there have been upgrades, but there is one simple fact: We could build a better system right now.

      We have experience. We have new technology. We have a long list of "lessons learned" from the shuttle. We have new partners in space exploration.

      With these assets in mind, we could presumably devise a new reusable launch vehicle, hopefully one that reduces cost to less $1500 per kilogram to operate.

      Wish I had more time to think about this, but unfortunately, Linear Algebra awaits...

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    2. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by tmortn · · Score: 1

      Why is having shuttle go to station such a horrible horrible thing? I can't say I disagree to much with your thinking that both programs are not what they should or could be and wanting more. But shit in one hand and want in the other and see which one fills up first.

      What he have are two lobotomized programs but they are better than none. And for the first time in its life Shuttle is actually be used as a.... SHUTTLE. Continually amazes me that now shuttle is being used in one of its primary designed missions people think it is an utter waste of time.

      I do agree with your sentiments about the now abandoned Hubble mission. But at the same time it has done far more than it was thought it could to begin with. Also its failure is not a given. It is only projected, so it may well continue to operate well past its current expected demise... or it might croak tommorrow. I think a better option than repair would be putting together the spares on the ground, including a PERFECT mirror as opposed to the flawed one that got launched, and launch Hubble II. The components exist. so lets put them to use. What would be really nice would be if we could get it out to Geosync to give it a chance for longer more stable exposuers.

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    3. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
      Why is having shuttle go to station such a horrible horrible thing?
      It wouldn't be, if ISS was actually useful for something. Right now, the Shuttle is only useful for assembly ISS and ferrying things to and from it, and ISS is only useful as a place for the Shuttle to go. It's not clear that either will be any more useful in the future.
      I think a better option than repair would be putting together the spares on the ground, including a PERFECT mirror as opposed to the flawed one that got launched, and launch Hubble II.
      I agree that this would be good, although I doubt very much that it can be done by cobbling together leftovers. Last I saw, the estimated cost of such a thing was around $4B, vs. under $2B to fix the one we've got.
      The components exist.
      Some do. Some don't.
      What would be really nice would be if we could get it out to Geosync to give it a chance for longer more stable exposuers.
      I don't think we currently have a launcher that can get 11.1 metric tons into geosync. Plus there'd be no possibility at all of servicing with the Shuttle, so it would require a lot of new engineering to redesign it to not require periodic service missions.

      I'm in favor of designing a Hubble replacement, but I don't think we should abandon the current one until the new one is operational.

    4. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by tmortn · · Score: 1

      yeah getting the weight out there would be a problem.... would be nice if we had just mothballed the sat V production capacity rather than dismantled it. Technically Energia could still be produced and it would be more than capable, also could do the shuttle C or Z concepts. Considering it looks like we are serious about the CEV then I imagine we would have the ability to get out to geosync to service by the time it was needed. Roll of the dice certainly but in return you dust off a heavy lift design, and gain a more capable telescope that makes one revolution around its orbit a day instead of one every 90 minutes or so. Eh largely just academic anyway. My guess is hubble wasn't designed to take the thermal load of long periods without being shaded in earths shadow.

      I really was under the impression that the components all existed to build a second telescope but regardless lets take that 4bn number. You are really suggesting you would rather spend 2bn to marginally extend the life of Hubble rather then 4bn to place a new system of the same design with a flawless mirror in orbit? IMHO that 4bn would be spent a hell of alot better than the 2 for a reservicing mission.

      As for ISS and Shuttle? Shuttle is now far more gainfully employed supporting/constructing ISS than it has been in its entire existence to date. As for the value of the ISS design and current utilization.... I mostly agree it was compromised out of just about any usefull feature. This does not mean we cannot find a use for it. Its most glaring lack right now is man power. We could put one of Bigelows inflatable habs where the crew hab was planned to be (buy em if we have to, make more if not). We could add extra docking nodes for the ability to dock multiple soyuz for escape vehicles while we dick around with a CRV capable of returning a full complement. And if nothing else actually send scientists up there instead of flyboys/girls ( with every appology to the astronaught corps ) to hopefully run more meaningfull experiments than (insert experiment that has been done millions of times) IN SPAAACE and incredibly experiments that have already been done many times IN SPAAAAACE. I swear its like hollywood sequals gone horribly wrong.... If science is not viable then turn it into an astronaught training facility and screw floating around in the NBT. Orient them in the tank then send them to learn in the real environment. Set goals for running station without utilizing supplies from earth in order to design better long term life support systems. Need I continue?

      I am sure with some thought we could find something worthwhile to do with several tonnes of orbiting material with propulsion, life support and power systems. Its too fucking expensive to get mass up there to just wirte it off and say there is nothing to be done with it. We need some more "Failure is not an option" mentality and we have got to get out of this scrap it all and do something totaly different every time something looks hard crap. In the mean time our only viable option for altering the design or finishing the construction is Shuttle.

      What do you suggest we do?

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    5. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
      We could [...]
      Sure, we could do those things, but what do you think the likelyhood of any of them actually happening are?
      IMHO that 4bn would be spent a hell of alot better than the 2 for a reservicing mission.
      That would be great, except that nobody's offered to give them 4B to do it.

      IMHO the 40B they're going to spend on the remaining life of the shuttle and ISS would be better spent as 4B for a couple of Hubble service missions to keep it going until the replacement is ready (since these things take a long time), 4B for the Hubble replacement, and 32B for the next generation spacecraft and space stations, instead of wasting it on ISS.

      And if NASA would be willing to work with existing, proven designs such as the DC-X, rather than wacky things that prove to be impossible, such as the X34 lifting body bullshit, maybe that $32B might actually accomplish something useful instead of being frittered away on non-functional crap.

      We need some more "Failure is not an option" mentality
      NASA management completely misunderstands what "failure is not an option" means, and interprets it as "we shouldn't do anything that might be dangerous". That's why they're not getting anything accomplished. You can bet that the Mercury astronauts weren't told that their spacecraft were perfectly safe, but that's what NASA seems to want to claim of the Shuttle, hence the asinine decision to abandon Hubble, without even doing an actual risk analysis. They just arbitrarily decided that it seemed dangerous.

      Personally, even though I'm concerned about their possible military plans, I'm hoping that the Chinese will demonstrate how a proper space program works, since NASA is no longer capable of doing so.

    6. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by tmortn · · Score: 1

      I just don't see the reservicing mission. Not like it is gone, it will continue for a while yet and may still provide some surprises. and the longer it lasts the more chance of it lasting till a replacement is up. Right now I think the only hard limit on its life span is the decay of its orbit... but I think that margian is enough that the real concern is how long the gyros last and the bats can be conserved. Now if they start talking about de-orbiting it before it croaks I will be screaming bloody murder. Not fixing it is one thing, not utilizing it as along as it keeps working something entirely different.

      Can't agree more that NASA has gotten so risk averse as to be non-functional. However, it isn't just NASA that has gone panzy... their decisions are just symptomatic of a much larger shift in mindset of the american public in general.

      Hmmmmm... come to think of it what would I like to see done with that money that is most likely going right down the toilet (well not all... some of it is paying my bills :-)). How about pushing through with the ARES heavy lift concept championed by Zubrin and a couple Mars Direct missions ? I'll take that over a gutted station and an overstretched shuttle system working just to fullfill a contractual obligation.

      Unless something changed I am kind of surprised you point to DC-X as a prooven... though considering what your comparing to.... eh never mind.

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    7. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
      I am kind of surprised you point to DC-X as a prooven
      DC-X was fully operational and met all of its objectives, until it was destroyed due to human error.

      That's not to say that everything needed for the full scale Delta Clipper was proven, but it was much closer than that stupid X-33 design for which they couldn't even make fuel tanks.

    8. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by tmortn · · Score: 1

      Well I think when I wrote that I had DC-X and the 33 mixed a bit. But they may well have hit the same problem reagarding tanks with a full scale up. Margians get real slim when your limited to 500isp. Though I agree... far more down the road to working that the 33 ever got.

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    9. Re:I wish they really would cancel it! by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

      I think a better option than repair would be putting together the spares on the ground, including a PERFECT mirror as opposed to the flawed one that got launched, and launch Hubble II.

      I agree that this would be good, although I doubt very much that it can be done by cobbling together leftovers. Last I saw, the estimated cost of such a thing was around $4B, vs. under $2B to fix the one we've got.


      Actually, the cost of a new and much improved Hubble (including launch) would be more around $1B:

      http://www.pha.jhu.edu/hop/
      http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=16050

  34. Not a bad idea by marcus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    4/1 or not, actually cancelling the STS and redirecting the funds to the next gen SSTO would be a good decision.

    I agree with the idea of cancelling the gov as well. As it stands, much of the gov has already cancelled itself anyway. They do nothing constructive. What we need to do is cancel their paychecks.

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  35. Re:So Bush really thinks USA is invencible!! by st1d · · Score: 1

    LMAO! Of course, using that criteria, we'll be up to our armpits in spare donor organs in no time. :)

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  36. No worries, India will take over that work by SlashingComments · · Score: 1

    This is the law of development--if you don't do it and there is some benefit to it someone will.

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  37. April what now? by PHanT0 · · Score: 1

    If you're going to make an April fools joke you might as well spell President right.

  38. If not for bad spelling by olddotter · · Score: 1

    If not for the bad spelling I would have thought real news had made it through the April Fools foder.... :-)

  39. shit aint funny, by hongbits · · Score: 1

    that shit aint funny! i wouldnt put it past him . hb

  40. Who the heck is "PRSIDENT BUSH"? E- fool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dropping the E from President. Awww.. how cleverly juvenile!

  41. The Workaround by Log+from+Blammo · · Score: 1

    NASA immediately re-named its launch vehicles to "Death Gliders", and found that their budget had suddenly increased by $120 billion.

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    1. Re:The Workaround by n54 · · Score: 1

      Now this actually is a funny joke! Wish I had modpoints to give you :)

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  42. OH!!! He's talking about the shuttle.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    "We cannot find any justification to continue deficit funding of a program that has no application other that proving that with enough money America can do anything," said Bush.

    I thought he was talking about the Iraq liberation.

  43. God told him... by Ricin · · Score: 1

    of this immediate threat of being poked in the eye by terrarists with their shuttles. These weapons should not fall into terrarists' hands.

  44. a better joke would be by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    Bush calls for more subsidies to the AMTRAC.

    Or Bush produces the money to save the Hubble Telescope.

    Or Bush's IQ has risen considerably after the last measurement by 92 thus he is the smartest president of the USA ever.

    1. Re:a better joke would be by core+plexus · · Score: 1
      "President Bush to Liberate Alaska"

      "US president George W. Bush, in a speech to Congress today said, "Now that the situation in Iraq is under control, and after we've overthrown the governments of North Korea, Cuba, New Zealand, Iran and Madagascar, I'll be asking you for a further $50 billion toward my administration's efforts to help liberate Alaska, and give freedom to the Alaski people."

      The Alaskan governor, Frank H. Murkowski has long been a thorn in the side of the federal government by frustrating their plans to grab control of the entire world's oil reserves by the year 2010 to present to Dick Cheney as a birthday gift."

      US to float giant missile defence radar to Alaska

  45. This is a bit excessive by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    don't you think?

    Although I will point out that there is another even more pragmatic reason not to campaign against birth control: rampant overpopulation throughout the world which will only get worse.

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