I was a hard core Unix/C person--basically a Unix whore who can pretty much work on any unix platform without much problem.
To me language is a Tool only--I have no religion about it (I am pretty religious about OSs though) and to that end this is my liking.
C - started on it, so natually like it
C++ - hated it, very complex language
PERL - great one but it is too similar to C and I have difficulty coding in it.
Java - too heavy and too much bullshit programmers blaming everything other than their own code and Sun is hoping that they will just spec out the classes and someone else will do the hardwork of coding it while they retain the control--yeaaah right! I hated it
C# - Very nice language. I wish they did not get rid of "printf" type routines, other than that, this is a very good tool.
This is just my perception. MSFT may be evil for now, but if being evil does not increase their profit margin, they will come around and be saint! And when that happens, I bet they will smell and look like Linux and the old unix whore will happly work on that...
You are TOTALLY NUTS to use anything other than blackbery. And BTW, deleting from handheld MUST not delete it from my emailbox.
anyway there was on good thing going on here, now that will be gone too.
We had 2000-2500 servers running an old OS and has to be converted to something which is remotely managable (we had a global deployment). We ran only a single application written in-house. The reason it worked and worked well (still today) becuase.
1. Programmers were agnostic - they can write code on anything
2. System Admins were non-religious about OS
3. Management could multiply 2000 with 0
4. I put my ass on the line for this
Oh! BTW all these were done back in 1995. We just did not tell anyone since we felt that it was a strategic advantage over our competition--have them use MSFT!
Windows and Linux co-existed for about 20 years before one of them died off. No one knows why but historians believe that there was a surge of common users who wanted spyware, spam and other security holes for their daily computing experience and since one of them was not capable of doing that it perished.
Look man, please don't bother try to justify other people doing stupid press release. We EE people will not accept things unless it is black-n-white, it is our nature. I wish programmers were like that and stop saying "it runs fine in my computer..."
Why fight and get excited about Linux and open source? Looks like most of the common folks wants to get screwd by viruses, likes unpredictable crah, stupid pseudo-productivity tools and want to watch commercials and buy bad art or uncomfortable shoes or stupid dresses anyway.
More and more it seems to me that we really wanted no progress and wanted to stay in the little village as cave man.
But nooooooooo... some.0001 percent of people wanted to see what's new and made life difficult for rest of the 'normal' people. We were so happy to click and pretend working and blame the microsoft god all day.
Well... the trouble maker euro-lover open source hippies--give up and embrace microsoft-aaaaaaaaaahh the beauty of close souce, feels like touching God and getting punished by unpredictble ways with a blue screen for sins we committed by opening Visio and Outlook at the same time...
Learn how to do "Faith Based Computing"... have faith that your OS will not catch virus if you have microsoft, have faith you will not have spyware if you use windows--have faith you little gal--we the Gartener Priests will tell you show you what's right and what's wrong for you--we will make the choice for you.
That is *exactly* why in our company we don't hire the mini "Tanenbaum" who are coming out of school with good grade--we suggest them to go back to the matrix--real world is full of mono-kernels and what not, go back to the university where you can sit on your mighty high chair and comment how engineers in the real world have falied to design the right thing.
The poor but motivated (wrongly of course) people in pakistan have really nothing to do other than kill people who are not muslim, invade Kashmir and all those things.
That country has no money, is a home of some of the worst people and only foreign policy they have is to "kashmir" just to keep the local folks distracted.
Well... look, they are not going anywhere. India will be bigger, stronger and better world citizen and one day, just like cleaning out a trash can, will clean out pakistan when they stink too bad.
Yes, I am indian and I am very proud of my country with the progress made in there. Try running a country with 1B population, >80% people under the poverty line, 100's languages, 10 different religons, economically drained by the Brits for 100 yers and still able to come up with a woman as head of state, space technology, self sufficient in food and couple of nobel prizes in 50 years.
Write programs in Java--a modern tool where garbage collectors and optimizers work for you. I hate this programming dudes who think they are better since they can write program in obscure, dead language like C !
But anyway, since getting the work done is never priority, so I guess the same type of people will be using "manual" optimization on code and feel smart about it!
And I found pretty snotty remarks about people who don't believe in that book/God.
Also a nice political touch to it where it kind of puts a null terminator by declaring Mohammed to be the last one--so no one will actully be able to change things. Later, other people added the rich philosophy etc. but the.
In my reading of different core books, I found this
1. Bible - Actully tells people that don't kill/steal and be faithful to your familiy/clan.
2. Vedas/Puran - too obtuse, too much rocket science phillosophy, beyond my intellectual ablity and I think too much for common people to understand. but there are some cool descriptions of advanced weapons c. which you might find interesting
3.Buddhist - probably most balanced one, something people can understand. I like their idea of balancing the life etc.
For the most part, all of them are ok, and I think the problem is not with the tool, but what people do with it.
Then we will be taking about "Super-Cities" where everything is in your fingertips and how not cool to live in secluded remote places etc. etc.
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I went through the same transformation and when I look back I can see what I did wrong.
1. Listening to complains
People will bitch about almost everything, when they do please put 100% attention to them, I typed while listening which made them feel bad.
2. 80% of the people "feel" and 20% "think".
We geeks tend to believe we think where we actually feel more, it was my mistake to assume that geeks think and make the logical choices--killed me at least twice when I believed that way.
3. Keeping your cool when you yourself could do someting in 20 min. but you get an estimate of 2 weeks.
Not Kidding ! please practice this--I finally had do things like lying about stomach ache (which I never get) before I can put up the face which shows interest and respect for the geek--this is 100% true. I fucked up once very bad when I could not take the BS from a senior programmer about something taking 2 Months and did the coding 15 mins right there while the one account manager watching this whole thing. Did not go well at all after that I rubbed her programming ego so bad that I got fucked later many times by her in totally unexpected ways. It took me 2 yrs to make up with her--after all she was a senior programmer and had some say about projects etc.
I guess this is what I did not do and paid for it so I can share this with the group.
Please don't be stoppin to listen to the rational people who will prove to you that you are wasting you life on a lowly govt. tech place with 45K salary--you are the the best dream we have.
Thanks a lot for keeping our dreams up. And also thanks to the Political entities who somehow are keeping this NASA thing alive !!!!
Now someone will be in Jail for slashdotting cia
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You are 100% correct. If I buy servers for customers who don't want to mess with IT and want to be smart about it--I always give them IBM.
Other customers who really picky and try to be smart ass--I tell them go to compusa and why pay me when you can build it yourself--if they can fine, good for them, if they can't then there is IBM.
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To me language is a Tool only--I have no religion about it (I am pretty religious about OSs though) and to that end this is my liking.
C - started on it, so natually like it
C++ - hated it, very complex language
PERL - great one but it is too similar to C and I have difficulty coding in it.
Java - too heavy and too much bullshit programmers blaming everything other than their own code and Sun is hoping that they will just spec out the classes and someone else will do the hardwork of coding it while they retain the control--yeaaah right! I hated it
C# - Very nice language. I wish they did not get rid of "printf" type routines, other than that, this is a very good tool.
This is just my perception. MSFT may be evil for now, but if being evil does not increase their profit margin, they will come around and be saint! And when that happens, I bet they will smell and look like Linux and the old unix whore will happly work on that ...
You are TOTALLY NUTS to use anything other than blackbery. And BTW, deleting from handheld MUST not delete it from my emailbox. anyway there was on good thing going on here, now that will be gone too.
1. Programmers were agnostic - they can write code on anything
2. System Admins were non-religious about OS
3. Management could multiply 2000 with 0
4. I put my ass on the line for this
Oh! BTW all these were done back in 1995. We just did not tell anyone since we felt that it was a strategic advantage over our competition--have them use MSFT!
Windows and Linux co-existed for about 20 years before one of them died off. No one knows why but historians believe that there was a surge of common users who wanted spyware, spam and other security holes for their daily computing experience and since one of them was not capable of doing that it perished.
Look man, please don't bother try to justify other people doing stupid press release. We EE people will not accept things unless it is black-n-white, it is our nature. I wish programmers were like that and stop saying "it runs fine in my computer ..."
More and more it seems to me that we really wanted no progress and wanted to stay in the little village as cave man.
But nooooooooo ... some .0001 percent of people wanted to see what's new and made life difficult for rest of the 'normal' people. We were so happy to click and pretend working and blame the microsoft god all day.
Well ... the trouble maker euro-lover open source hippies--give up and embrace microsoft-aaaaaaaaaahh the beauty of close souce, feels like touching God and getting punished by unpredictble ways with a blue screen for sins we committed by opening Visio and Outlook at the same time ...
Learn how to do "Faith Based Computing" ... have faith that your OS will not catch virus if you have microsoft, have faith you will not have spyware if you use windows--have faith you little gal--we the Gartener Priests will tell you show you what's right and what's wrong for you--we will make the choice for you.
Have faith my boy there is still chance for you.
This is the law of development--if you don't do it and there is some benefit to it someone will.
That is *exactly* why in our company we don't hire the mini "Tanenbaum" who are coming out of school with good grade--we suggest them to go back to the matrix--real world is full of mono-kernels and what not, go back to the university where you can sit on your mighty high chair and comment how engineers in the real world have falied to design the right thing.
That country has no money, is a home of some of the worst people and only foreign policy they have is to "kashmir" just to keep the local folks distracted.
Well ... look, they are not going anywhere. India will be bigger, stronger and better world citizen and one day, just like cleaning out a trash can, will clean out pakistan when they stink too bad.
Yes, I am indian and I am very proud of my country with the progress made in there. Try running a country with 1B population, >80% people under the poverty line, 100's languages, 10 different religons, economically drained by the Brits for 100 yers and still able to come up with a woman as head of state, space technology, self sufficient in food and couple of nobel prizes in 50 years.
Please let me know when you find one !
that's all the robot will say, kind of like Fox news.
You know what we need ? We need "open source movies" so that we don't have to put up with the crap which is fed to us on a regular basis.
But anyway, since getting the work done is never priority, so I guess the same type of people will be using "manual" optimization on code and feel smart about it!
Also a nice political touch to it where it kind of puts a null terminator by declaring Mohammed to be the last one--so no one will actully be able to change things. Later, other people added the rich philosophy etc. but the.
In my reading of different core books, I found this
1. Bible - Actully tells people that don't kill/steal and be faithful to your familiy/clan.
2. Vedas/Puran - too obtuse, too much rocket science phillosophy, beyond my intellectual ablity and I think too much for common people to understand. but there are some cool descriptions of advanced weapons c. which you might find interesting
3.Buddhist - probably most balanced one, something people can understand. I like their idea of balancing the life etc.
For the most part, all of them are ok, and I think the problem is not with the tool, but what people do with it.
Good to see that the trek people will be also be deprived as B5 fans are now.
Why mess with the space ... watch Buffy !
1. Listening to complains
People will bitch about almost everything, when they do please put 100% attention to them, I typed while listening which made them feel bad.
2. 80% of the people "feel" and 20% "think".
We geeks tend to believe we think where we actually feel more, it was my mistake to assume that geeks think and make the logical choices--killed me at least twice when I believed that way.
3. Keeping your cool when you yourself could do someting in 20 min. but you get an estimate of 2 weeks.
Not Kidding ! please practice this--I finally had do things like lying about stomach ache (which I never get) before I can put up the face which shows interest and respect for the geek--this is 100% true. I fucked up once very bad when I could not take the BS from a senior programmer about something taking 2 Months and did the coding 15 mins right there while the one account manager watching this whole thing. Did not go well at all after that I rubbed her programming ego so bad that I got fucked later many times by her in totally unexpected ways. It took me 2 yrs to make up with her--after all she was a senior programmer and had some say about projects etc.
I guess this is what I did not do and paid for it so I can share this with the group.
All the bright guys and gals of NASA
You kick ass !
Please don't be stoppin to listen to the rational people who will prove to you that you are wasting you life on a lowly govt. tech place with 45K salary--you are the the best dream we have.
Thanks a lot for keeping our dreams up. And also thanks to the Political entities who somehow are keeping this NASA thing alive !!!!
even if they are running on our tax dollars ...
We just make sure the MSFT's R&D Division (commonly known as 'Apple') stays in the game ...
You are 100% correct. If I buy servers for customers who don't want to mess with IT and want to be smart about it--I always give them IBM. Other customers who really picky and try to be smart ass--I tell them go to compusa and why pay me when you can build it yourself--if they can fine, good for them, if they can't then there is IBM.
Any idea about what kind of modulation they are planning ? QAM ?
Naaaah ! still no luck !
Only thing is that damm SH guy put it up in space !
Hey Indians inventend "Kamasutra" wait till they export that here ....
I know I know this is a geek place so may be I should shut up !
Linus, if you read this junkie website please don't prove me wrong (I might have to call you a flip-flopper for hurting my feeling !)