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Is Obtaining a Windows Refund Still Difficult?

Bubblehead asks: "A few years ago, everybody was talking about returning their copy of Windows to receive a refund. I plan on buying a Laptop shortly, and most manufacturers still insist on shipping it with some version of Windows. I was wondering what the state of the affairs is - there isn't that much information on the net. The most prominent piece of information is this 2003 Linux Journal Report outlining how the author had to go to small claims court to receive a refund. Any experiences - especially with vendors that do not offer an alternative?"

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  1. Got my refund by murderlegendre · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just got my Windows XP Pro refund from MS last week. Package contained several foreign coins, a coupon booklet, and one human soul.

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  2. Hardly .... by El+Cubano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is Obtaining a Windows Refund Still Difficult?

    No. It is practically impossible. Next question, please.

  3. pick the right vendor by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Funny
    I believe Apple has fairly liberal policies for buying a latop without Windows.

    I hear they're more difficult about OS X refunds, though.

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  4. Re:Recent experience story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    IIRC, the Escort was one of the only somewhat-good cars Ford ever made, so perhaps Microsoft wanted it to study how people engineer things? Windows is currently at the 1985 Chevy stage of engineering quality, so a 2002 model would be a big help to them.

  5. Re:Recent experience story by me+at+werk · · Score: 2, Funny
    I don't feel for the guy, I mean, he's done more than just this:

    This, after all, is the same student who was "arrested after sneaking across a lawn . . . with a can of spray paint, heading toward the notoriously large Bush/Cheney sign in the yard of Summit County Republican Chairman Alex Arshinkoff" and then "convicted of misdemeanor trespassing and criminal mischief," according to a report from the Beacon Journal.


    He seems to have made "stirring up trouble" his goal. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he uses a Mac or something else and couldn't have even used the copy of office anyway.
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  6. Maybe if his math was correct... by Lightborn · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the link:

    "Then how did you come up with the $10 price figure?"

    "I just know it's the right amount."

    "So what you are really doing is guessing. Well, my guess is the software is worth $1,000,000. Tell you what, let's split the difference. Send me a check for $500,005."

    I think by his reasoning he was owed $499,985.00.

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  7. Give them away by JLavezzo · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Then I wind up giving them away

    Yeah, I'll take one.

  8. Re:Recent experience story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    real life got you down? no need to pick on your friends, here's a hanky, tell big momma all about it, let it all out baby

  9. Re:Article Text by Xtifr · · Score: 3, Funny

    > I can see how homeless people would find this an effective use of their time, but other than that....

    I dunno, sounds like a better/more entertaining use of my time than, say, watching the latest incarnation of Survivor. Or standing in line to see Star Wars episode 3. Or filling in little boxes in my web browser with text in order to debate the effective uses of my time with anonymous cowards on slashdot. :)

  10. Re:How about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Damn, that's pretty clever.

    But instead of writing it off as software expense, make a token effort to collect the money from MS, and then if it fails, write it off as fraud loss.

    Then, just to be a pain in the ass, ask the IRS if MS reported their fraud income.

  11. Re:Recent experience story by lewp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, yeah, the Escort is a great car alright.

    I got pulled over in some rural Georgia county on my way to Florida and the officer tried to say I was doing 98 in a 70. I looked at him and said "98? you do realize this is an Escort, right?" He laughed, started to walk off, and said he'd get his radar gun checked.

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  12. Re:Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Honestly, until it can beat masturbating and napping it's not getting on to the to do list.

    I can multitask so the text boxing is essentially free....

  13. Re:Is Obtaining a Windows Refund Still Difficult? by Trebuchet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is the Pope Catholic?

    No, he's dead.

    (sorry, couldn't resist)

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  14. Re:refund?!? they tried to CHARGE me! by maxbang · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude, I totally hear what you're saying. I know it's futile, but I still believe that if enough people stop putting up with this bullshit, companies will start to pay attention. Start giving people Linux preinstalled on +10% of computers and everything would be fantastically different. If they started doing that, there would be better support for graphics, ACPI, no more stupid winmodems, and so forth. They'd have to try and help better the code and their hardware to meet the plug and play demand that people are used to on Windows. I've found that I've had to wrestle with crap in Windows a lot less than with Linux, especially on laptops (fuck you, Vaio). I've had probably twenty different laptops in the past decade and as they get more complicated, the harder they are to get fully working in either environment. I haven't put Windows on a laptop in ages. The last time I used it on a portable was on my dad's Dell running win2k. Did I have a point here? Oh, yeah. Everyone's always talking about the chicken and the egg critical mass bullshit whenever they bring up adopting open source stuff. It falls on the manufacturers to start offering Linux (or whatever) as a standard reduced price option on all their computers. And fuck all that shit about playing nice with windows. How many regular home users use all that workgroup crap? Unless there's one of us nerds around, there aren't any fileservers, terminals, printservers, subnets, nodes, backups, etc. There are usually a couple of PCs sharing a broadband connection via a simple NAT device. So, everyone wins because my rant declares it so. Now I'm afraid I need to sleep as Ganon's minions have kicked my ass yet again. Fuck you, Ganon.

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  15. Re:Take the easy way out... by pla · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you actually successfully done this?

    Well, as a scam, no. Legitimately buying a single unit to evaluate, yes.

    Of course, they actually did image the drive (I suspect it would cost take most major OEMs more than the price of a single copy of XP to change their standard McDonald's-like assembly line of PC creation for one machine), but waved a whopping $100 off the $3500 price tag.

    And no, I don't refer to Dell specifically... Though from my experience with them, I strongly suspect they'd throw in a free blow-job from Michael Dell's own mother if I made a large enough sale conditional on it.

  16. Re:Your journey starts here by jasonditz · · Score: 5, Funny

    You missed the biggest one

    http://www.apple.com

  17. Re:Article Text by csteinle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man, I so hope you are typing in your sleep.