Sony Patents Matrix-Like Game Technology

howman writes "Reuters is reporting that Sony has been granted 2 patents, both describing 'Method and system for generating sensory data onto the human neural cortex'. These are patents 6,729,337 and 6,536,440. The patents go on to 'describe a technique for aiming ultrasonic pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce sensory experiences such as smells, sounds and images'. The story was first broken by New Scientist magazine." Commentary also available via Ars Technica.

Comments

What about that third patent?

[TripMaster Monkey]

Wonder why Reuters left this one out...

There was a third patent, entitled "Method and system for utilization of the human body as a clean, renewable energy source". It goes on to describe "a process for extracting thermal, biochemical, and electrical energy from the human body, ensuring a clean, renewable power supply for the Machi^H^H^H^H^Hrest of the population".

I'd keep an eye on Sony if I were you...

Re:What about that third patent?

[Gzip Christ]

We must act now. I propose that we scorch the sky so that the Sony lawyers can no longer find their way to the patent office.

Re:What about that third patent?

[Gzip Christ]

its really hard to power anything of a 98.6 F thermal power source.

So what you are saying is that we need to overclock the humans? That shouldn't be a problem if we suspend them in liquid - I'm thinking a red-ish goo would work well.

Re:What about that third patent?

[FingerDemon]

Too late. In a minute from now, my future self will send a time machine back to the current me. I will then use it to go back and file a time machine patent two minutes before you posted your message.

By the time you read this, you may already be embroiled in a lawsuit.

Re:What about that third patent?

[mjm1231]

That's putting it mildly. If they manage to extract more energy from the human bodies than they put into them in some form (e.g., food), then they have also discovered a way to violate the second law of thermodynamics. Once you've done that, energy production isn't a problem.

Lawsuits

[Scoria]

So, any bets as to which pornographer Sony will be suing first? ;-)

Paradise Engineering ...

[foobsr]

... finally.

Now let us just hope that we ourselves do not conflict with any (coming) patent so that we can take full advantage.

More seriously (?):

Sony hasn't yet built a device that works based on the ideas presented in the patent, so this is all theoretical. In fact, according to the New Scientist, Sony hasn't even conducted any experiments to see if this works. Nonetheless, most of the reporting on this patent (see the Times Online and the original New Scientist peice) claim that some independent experts have said that the idea is plausible. There's no word yet on whether or not tinfoil will stop the ultrasonic brain rays.

Strange. I bet there are some among the crowd here who have "theoretical ideas" that level up with SONY. IIRC, in ancient times it was necessary to present a working model (at least here in .de).

CC.

question

[R.D.Olivaw]

Can someone enlighten me please.
How detailed, exact and 'can be done with the current technology'a patent claim has to be in order to get granted? I mean they can't implement these patents now, can they?
Can I just take say the teleporter and describe it as a commuting device that works by transforming matter into energy, beaming it and retransforming it back to get a patent for it?

Re:question

[GlassUser]

But remember Allen Breed. He's the fellow who patented the first automobile airbag in 1968. When did the automotive industry make airbage generally available? 1988.

I doubt that's a coincidence. Without looking into it further, that says to me that nobody wanted to pay for restrictive licensing. In that case the patent system stifled innovation and likely killed people. But that's just what it says to me.

Patent on Vapor ?

[Peeteriz]

'Elizabeth Boukis, spokeswoman for Sony Electronics, says the work is speculative. "There were not any experiments done," she says. "This particular patent was a prophetic invention. It was based on an inspiration that this may someday be the direction that technology will take us." '

Hey - so it basically means that they do NOT have made an invention, but have a patent to get all the profit, when some real inventor makes it real 10 years later ?

This is ridiculous. Patents should be granted for novel implementations, not for ideas that someone might implement in future. The scientists that find a working solution should get the patent, not some lawyer who is just speculating on where technology might go.

Re:Doesn't it seem a bit odd...

[DJDutcher]

If Sony dosn't know how to implement this, wouldn't the use of this technology in the Matrix be prior art? The movie makers know as much about how to do this as Sony does.

Re:PS9

[harrkev]

The funny thing is that, if real, this is most likely a worthless patent. The patent will likely expire long before something like this is even possible.

Sort of like patenting an idea for making money by mining hydrogen gas from stars in a distant galaxy.

Re:Paradise Engineering ...

[Cyn]

No, it was to give them a temporary monopoly since they (theoretically) spent all that time/money developing it - since it should not have been something that is plainly obvious from existing knowledge/technologies.

In fact, originally (in the US, from 1790) a model was required to demonstrate how it functioned, but that requirement was removed in 1870.

I would argue that maybe you don't have to actually build one, but you need to throw down a lot of proof that you know it could work, and if things don't work out that way then you haven't yet patented whatever you've just created, and you need to patent the proper method.

Re:Paradise Engineering ...

[mamladm]

That's not quite right. The original purpose of patents was for greedy monarchs to enrich themselves by granting monopolies in return for bribes. This was eventually getting out of hand and had a negative impact on economies in Europe. In 1610 King James I of Britain abandoned the system of favourist patents and introduced a new law by which patents were only to be granted for inventions deemed to be in the public interest, only to the first inventor and strictly limited to 14 years. This was the birth of the modern patent system.

The duration was eventually extended to 20 years as it remains today, but there was never any requirement to provide a prototype nor was the idea to aid fund raising for a prototype.

Instead, the patent system is based on the concept of a bargain between the public interest and an inventor. The bargain is for the inventor to receive a time limited monopoly in return for not keeping his invention secret and have it published. In fact, when the patent expires after 20 years, the invention become public domain.

It does not matter whether the invention actually works or not. The public interest is served by the disclosure of the invention. Any such disclosure will enrich the public domain, which is the only reason why a patent is granted in the first place.

If the invention is flawed and doesn't work, in most cases, there is still something to be learned from its disclosure for others to fix the flaw or not make the same mistake and instead come up with a better idea. This is what enrichment of the public domain is all about.

Consequently, it doesn't matter if an invention works or not. If there was any such requirement as to produce a working prototype, it would actually limit the enrichment of the public domain.

What is far more important is that the rules of patentability, ie novelty and non-obviousness are strictly enforced. Too many patent applications for inventions which are not novel or which are obvious get rubberstamped these days. That is where the problem of the patent system lies today.

Re:PS9

[gtall]

Yep, they are called Senators here in the U.S.