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Anti-DMCA Petition in Canadian Parliament

Matthew Skala writes "Last month we heard that the Canadian government is rejecting some of the worst features of the DMCA (more analysis here), but with Heritage Minister Liza Frulla parroting the media-cartel lobby with a promise to "give the tools to companies and authors to sue" and persuade children that downloading music for free is morally wrong even though it's presently legal in Canada, the battle is far from won. Yesterday, Member of Parliament Peter Julian (Burnaby-New Westminster, NDP) introduced the first batch of signatures on Digital Copyright Canada's Petition for Users' Rights. This isn't just a Web click-through petition that politicians can freely ignore; more than a thousand real hardcopy signatures have already been collected from Canadian residents opposed to further expansion of copyright privileges, and the campaign is hoping for many more. Additional coverage on p2pnet.net."

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  1. Legal vs. moral by October_30th · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Uh, what kind of an argument is that?

    If something's legal, it doesn't mean it's also moral and conversely, doing the morally right thing might not be legal at the time.

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    1. Re:Legal vs. moral by camkind · · Score: 5, Funny

      As Rev. Lovejoy once said to Marge

      "Once something has been approved by the Government, It's no longer immoral."

    2. Re:Legal vs. moral by satherto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually it is moral to burn music for free in Canada, as we pay a surcharge on every blank CD, Cassette tape, and VCR tape to give to the artists. The reason it is legal and moral, is that the work has been paid for MANY times over due to the levy.

      As has been stated many times, the levy goes to the copywrite holders (in Canada) not to the government.

      It is (IMHO) that it is immoral to take our money and then try to convince us that we can't use what we have purchased.

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  2. Teaching right from wrong by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:


    She [Liza Frulla] said she wanted to make it her mission to persuade children that downloading music for free is wrong.


    Mabye she could start up a hip, happening new ad campaign like the SPA's Don't Copy that Floppy.

    Mabye it will be just as effective, too.

    Mabye I'm a Chinese jet pilot.
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  3. Re:The NDP isn't in power. by ytwang · · Score: 5, Informative

    The NDP isn't irrelevant. The current government has a minority of seats, so if all the opposition parties vote against a proposed piece of legislation, then it won't pass.

  4. Canada Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't it about time that Slashdot gets a 'Canada' Topic Icon? We have a USA one.

    I mean, how many YRO stories involve Canada doing something we wish was happening here? Don't we get more 'Canada' stories than, say, 'Transmeta' stories or 'Geeks in Space' stories?

  5. I hope America decides to butt in... by Atroxodisse · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the American lobby tries to butt in to get Canada to make more severe copyright laws because speaking as a Canadian, nothing makes us more stubborn than when America tries to make us do something we haven't made up our minds on. End result, no additional copyright laws.

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  6. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  7. Re:Laws based on Morals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    > I find that morality seems to always infringe on a person's rights and freedoms.

    I find also that my morals are always infringing on my own rights and freedoms. Which is weird, because they're my morals, so they're right, but also they're wrong.

    > So you see, you can't simply force a set of moral upon an entire population.

    Not simply. It takes a lot of weaponry and planning.

    > Morality is a personal choice.

    OK.

    > If someone chooses not to be moral,
    > well there's no way you're going to force them to have a sense of
    > morality.

    Wait. So morality exists, and people choose to be moral or immoral? If morality exists absolutely, then how can you force morality onto someone? They either choose to be moral, or not.

    > Part of freedom is being free to choose

    All of freedom is being free to choose. That's it.

    > and in this case being free to choose what you think is moral and immoral.

    So if I choose to have no sense of morality, then what have I chosen?

    You're confusing me. Stop it.

  8. Off-topic but needs to be said by PChemGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am a Canadian living in the US. I'm really tired of seeing comments like this from people on both sides of the border. For Americans, Canada is not the simple nation that some of you view it to be. It is also not the crime-free utopia that I hear about all the time. For most Canadians, you don't know half as much about the US as you think you do. The US is a much better country than prevailing attitudes would have you believe.

    We could all learn a lot more about each other if we got rid of these attitudes and spent a little time getting to know one another's countries.

  9. Re:Get the facts straight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Downloading commercial music without payment is not.

    Actually, if by "downloading" you mean making a personal copy of someone else's commercial music, then you're wrong.

    The Canadian Copyright Act specifically allows personal copies of music to be made. The U.S.A. has never had an equivalent exclusion in its copyright laws.