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Xbox 2 To Be Unveiled on MTV May 12

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft confirmed this morning that the Xbox 2 will be revealed on live TV on May 12. MTV will air a half-hour long special to launch the system. 'It doesn't make sense to unveil the product behind a closed door, at a trade-only event,' according to Microsoft corporate VP Peter Moore. 'We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first.'" More coverage available on GamesIndustry.biz and Press the Buttons.

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  1. Accessibility? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'It doesn't make sense to unveil the product behind a closed door, at a trade-only event,' according to Microsoft corporate VP Peter Moore. 'We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first.'"

    So they put it on a Pay-TV channel? Ok, maybe I'm the last person in the USA without cable. I'll just have to wait for the regular network commercials to tell me how cool this thing is that I don't really need, but will feel strangely compelled to buy anyway.

    The Rationale: "We'll introduce it on MTV because it worked for Bill Clinton."

    Things to look forward to:

    • Blue Music Video of Death
    • Some unknown girl/guy in the special will eventually rise to stardom for no apparent reason than they look good and/or can dance and sing
    • Days^H^H^H^HHours after the first XBox 2 hits a store shelf before Linux is up and running on one
    • First worm to hit XBoxes, which will be virtually impossible to remove due to the closed nature ot the system
    Remember when MTV was only about Music Videos?
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    1. Re:Accessibility? by Politburo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Things to look forward to:
      Blue Music Video of Death
      Some unknown girl/guy in the special will eventually rise to stardom for no apparent reason than they look good and/or can dance and sing
      Days[You're a tool]Hours after the first XBox 2 hits a store shelf before Linux is up and running on one
      First worm to hit XBoxes, which will be virtually impossible to remove due to the closed nature ot the system


      Yeah.. cause all of those things happened with the first XBox.. ::rolls eyes::

    2. Re:Accessibility? by wankledot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The intersection of people without cable, and people buying a new Xbox2 is pretty close to 0.

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    3. Re:Accessibility? by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Insightful

      exactly. marketing 101 ... you market to those who aren't buying your products. the average x-box gamer is 30 or something, and probably isn't watching mtv.

      no need to market to you all, cause you already know what you want and why you want it. gotta get the impressionable ones.

      it's crazy cause you all gripe about this lack of attention, but you should be honored a bit that the company respects your own ability to choose discretely... so they're not trying to subliminally cram it down your throat. instead you complain...

      you just can't win.

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  2. closed door? by deuist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is MTV open door? Most studio visitors will not have a chance to play the X-box. At least trade shows allow anyone with an entrance pass to try the products.

  3. "talk to" implies discussion by Raindance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first."

    Make that, "We wanted to talk directly at the consumer first."

    Sadly, you can't "talk to" anyone via TV (especially MTV-style networks). Let's just call this an (admittedly clever) uni-directional advertisement and be done with it.

    1. Re:"talk to" implies discussion by n0dnarb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very "insightful", pointing out the obvious fact that your TV is not a two-way Orwellian telescreen. Does that mean I'll get karma for pointing out the fact that talking via TV ("especially MTV-style networks" or not) doesn't work that well?

  4. Re:Music? Television by jcuffe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think they had something like that a few years ago. Then I think they cut everything out except the 30-second snatches of "music" on TRL.

    The thing that makes me sad is that MS views people that watch MTV as their target audience. I don't even want people that ingest that filth sharing any sort of demographic with me.

  5. Subliminal Messages by CypherXero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the virial marketing site: "chaos with penguins"

    Shhhh, Microsoft has hidden a secret message in their viral marking website, ourcolony.net

  6. Re:PSP by matth1jd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I knew alot more about the PSP when they had the launch party for that. What it looked like, how much it was going to cost etc.

    Microsoft has been keeping pretty tight wraps on the details. People will probably watch this to just see what the thing is all about.

    /Just saying

  7. bleh by rwven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think largely, people aren't excited anymore like they used to be about console launches. Yeah, neat new technology or whatever, pretty visuals...saw it all last year on my PC... and on another note, whats this drivel about "bringing it to the consumers first?" They're just po'ed because sony got the 3pm slot at E3 and they got the 6pm slot... Typical MS PR cover...

  8. Core Audience by geek_xyu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wasn't the original xbox supposed to be aimed at a more mature market? Instead here microsoft is targeting the Britany Spears/reality tv fans. Not much of a surprise but I don't think Microsoft has a clue what they are doing. They are just praying their new system doesn't lose money when it debuts like xbox 1 did.

    1. Re:Core Audience by javaxman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Wasn't the original xbox supposed to be aimed at a more mature market? Instead here microsoft is targeting the Britany Spears/reality tv fans.

      You either overestimate the sophistication of Xbox users, or underestimate the age of folks watching Real World/Road Rules Challenge XXXTREME or whatever they're showing on MTV these days. In either event, there probably is a good amount of overlap in the target audience. They're trying to hook eyes of 14-40 year-old bored people with disposable income and lots of free time. MTV is as good a place for that as you'll find, these days.

  9. Reading between the lines by psplay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article reeks of Marketing squalk. Lots of hype and worlds longer than marmalade, lot of Wow and fizz, but not much substance. No wonder it's on MTV.

    If there was something interesting to say about the product, don't you think they would have mentioned that instead of "behind-the-scenes video" and "jam packed with celebs"?

    When a Mareketing Manager is "ecstatic about our alliance with MTV" instead of ecstatic about the product. I begin to doubt. Is it me or does this article give off vibes of overhyping to compensate for a poor product?

  10. Re:In Other News... by daeley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait, am I thinking of a different channel? Please don't tell me the "M" is for "Microsoft."

    The "M" is for "Marketing."

    Marketing killed the video star.

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  11. Reminder by mattmentecky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I see a lot of "jokes" being tossed about in relation to MTV rarely being about music, Xbox debuting is an example of this etc. however need I not remind you that this is not unique to MTV, for example CBS rarely broadcasts about Colombia.

  12. Re:MTV -- Pimp my XBox by Reignking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That'll never happen -- MS will sue if you try to mod your XBox!

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  13. Re:Viral Marketing by sux0rbiscuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Our Colony shows to be a pretty good campaign and we carry the news on Our Colony at IU.

  14. Microsoft marketing genius by PhatboySlim · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Am I the only one who sees this as a genius marketing move? How long have consumer electronics been debuted at trade show events without any coverage except on Tech/G4-Tv.

    MTV may no longer play music videos, but they get great ratings, and specifically within those great ratings is the hard to reach demographic that the XBOX should appeal to.

    Congrats to Microsoft for being the first to figure this out. Keep an eye out for Sony to follow their lead if this works out well.

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  15. MTV... by FoXDie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is exactly the reason I can't get myself to accept the Xbox. They are catering to, as Penny Arcade put it nicely, the Generic Frat Fuck. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-11 -08&res=l

  16. Re:Paid Programming by wankledot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why wouldn't they? Can you imagine now much a 30 second spot during this show would cost? Existing Xbox games, gamer-focused products, etc. will pay big money to get their ads in. If I were MTV, I would be more than willing to give up an hour for a guaranteed demographic in a focused market (games) and very captive audience. MTV's salespeople would fall all over themselves selling ads during this to EA and any other game publisher.

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  17. Re:I'm taking all bets by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "3 to 1 it gets a BSOD while on live TV."

    Tee hee giggle snort. If it's funny 300 times, it's sure to be funny 301 times!

    Frankly, I'll take a crash on Live TV over blatant lying about how many millions of polygons can be rendered per second. *Glares accusingly in Sony's direction.*

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  18. Good move by Microsoft by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Already, they've put themselves into the name game for the mainstream media right before E3. It won't be "blah, blah, blah, Xbox and PS3 unvieled today", it will be three straight days of "blah, blah, blah, Xbox" - then when E3 hits, "And now lets' compare the PS3 to the Xbox".

    While I have my issues with the Xbox losing a ton o' money for Microsoft and not having a big enough library for my tastes (let me state: my personal tastes, so please so replies about the 10 Xbox games that are the "bestest evah!", thank you), at least they're working harder on the marketing for the Xbox 2 - more Japanese developers are announcing products, better viral marketing.

    Now that the Sony and Xbox lines will be compatible in power and graphics, it will come down to the games and other features (like Blue Ray and such). Eh - I'm patient. I probably won't buy either system for at least a year after they come out.

    Maybe ;).

  19. Re:well.. at a trade show.. by Keeper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who said that they wouldn't be showing it at E3? They're launching it on a TV show, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to show it anywhere else.

  20. Re:Music? Television by Mr.Progressive · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Have you seen Pimp My Ride? It's actually fairly entertaining television. And this is coming from someone who watches at the most 80 minutes of television a week (The Daily Show).

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  21. Re:I'm taking all bets by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "And you look like a fucking moron to the console world after the lies the dumbfucks at MS told about how many millions of polygons the piece of shit xbox could pump out."

    Bullshit. Show me where Microsoft claimed 66 million polygons a second.

    "Keep your dimwitted mouth shut you pussy. Got that dweeb?"

    Translation: I love Sony so don't be digging up dirt on them!

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  22. Kids watch MSNBC? by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, what kids do you know that watch MSNBC?

    I guess they think the biggest money is in the kid sales. Maybe it is. But I know a LOT of twenty-somethings that buy all this stuff and we're not watching MTV.

    MTV was good when they had Music Videos of all types. Not, if you actually catch a video, it's crap eyecandy with all booty and no originality. But now it's all these shows, every one packed full with teenage girls that scream at whatever the next boy band is. No thanks.

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  23. Re:The list gets longer by Jarlsberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bleh, it's people like you that made MS change their controller. The original controller was really well designed and fits into my hands perfectly.

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  25. Re:It's that bad? by hollismb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You do realize they'll still be showing it at E3 a couple days later, right? I'm all for this. Instead of waiting an hour to download some shaky handycam video because everyone else and their mother are trying to download it at the same time, I can actually watch a well-presented (at least in terms of video quality) show on television. Sounds good to me. Sure, it'll probably full of fluff and flashy imagery, but it'll at least answer a few questions. What does it look like? What is it called? When does it come out? How much does it cost? Is there the hardrive standard, seperately, or not at all? Will is get/save content directly from a PC on my network (ver likely)? How are the controllers different? Are they standard wireless? Is it backwards compatible? What are some of the launch games, and what do they look like? I'm betting we'll get answers to at least most of those questions.

  26. Stupid argument by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Marketing goes across the board to draw in the money of everyone they can get it from. It doesn't change the product in any way. They're not "catering" to anyone - they're marketing to everyone.