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MP3 Market Approaching Critical Mass

An anonymous reader writes "Led by the Apple iPod, Jupiter Research says that sales of DAPs are reaching a point where it will ignite an industry of support products and services. According to Jupiter analyst David Card 'Historically, any new device or medium that reaches a U.S. household penetration of 15 percent to 20 percent creates a critical mass of customers for other products and services.' The iPod already has a slew of peripherals out there and this is particularly good news for the paid download services like iTunes, especially with Apple announcing Wednesday they sold another 5.3 million iPods last quarter."

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  1. And, more interestingly... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...another News.com article on this topic:

    Music moguls trumped by Steve Jobs?

    When Apple Computer CEO Steve Jobs walked into the suites of top record label executives in 2002, iTunes software in hand, he was welcomed as a trailblazer to a digital music future.

    Now, nearly two years after Apple's iTunes launch, record executives have become worried that they have inadvertently ceded too much power over their industry to this charismatic computer executive.

    Frustrated at what they see as Jobs' intransigence on song pricing and other issues, some record executives are now turning their hopes toward other partners, particularly mobile phone carriers eager to get into the business of selling music. They see this new focus as a way to broaden the digital music business, and lessen Apple's dominance over their market in the process.

    [...]

    For example, Apple wants to sell all its songs for 99 cents each, a single price point that's easy for consumers to understand. But the record labels have pressed for the ability to vary prices to maximize their own sales. They want to sell older titles at a discount--like the $9.99 CDs available in most record stores--and charge more for popular songs to take advantage of market demand.


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  2. Well by elid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I understand that the iPod craze has been great for Apple, but I wonder how many people actually buy those accessories that are available (such as the voice recorder and FM transmitter). It's one thing to pay a premium for a high-quality Apple iPod; it's another thing to pay $30 for a an add-on - for features that come standard with other MP3 devices!

    1. Re:Well by Kimos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Trust me, people buy them. If they just spent $400 on an iPod they're going to want to protect it, sell them a case. They want to listen to their iPod in their CD players at home/in the car, sell them a transmitter. It's an expensive toy, so $50 more to make it work better and stay in better shape is not much...

    2. Re:Well by elid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But it's not even Apple that's making those accessories. So you're paying $30 for that non-Apple add-on. Why isn't Apple making these things?

    3. Re:Well by anonicon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "So you're paying $30 for that non-Apple add-on. Why isn't Apple making these things?"

      Because they've probably determined that it's not their core competency, and is in fact an example of di-worse-ification.

      Chuck

    4. Re:Well by justforaday · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The one benefit with radio: You have a much better chance hearing a song you've never heard before.

      Where do live that you have this bizarro-radio?

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    5. Re:Well by globalar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a kind of balance.

      Support costs for accessories can be substantial, and a consistent level of quality in product and customer service are key to the Apple brand. Extending the business is inevitable, but must be made in step with the brand's "promise."

      Also, a strong third-party market only helps Apple (lots of choice, innovation, good pricing, etc.). Why enter and compete in a market when the existing competition is helping you? Any effective step by Apple into the accessory market would either cause furious competition (cutting into the profitability) or discourage new competitors (level it out).

      As of now, Apple is getting the best of both worlds - iPod accesories make the iPod more attractive, "cool", and reinforce the brand. Meanwhile Apple can operate independent of this market. The company is reaping the market rewards from a successful product. Soon, however, the brand will mature and there will need to be an injection of marketing, innovation, and features. The third-party market will only accelerate the effectiveness of Apple's brand.

  3. 5.3 Million? by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cripes. These iPods are like Rabbits in Australia!

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    1. Re:5.3 Million? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cripes. These iPods are like Rabbits in Australia!

      Anyone tried breeding the little bastards? You could make a fortune selling the offspring on Ebay!

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  4. Critical Mass by Pinefresh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love that term, it makes it sound like there'll be an explosion. Everyone stop buying i-pods! it's our only hope!

    1. Re:Critical Mass by superpulpsicle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I give credit to iPods/Apple for succeeding in the most harsh econmical climate. High unemployment rate, .com market crash, real estate prices are ludicrous.... yet it managed to succeed while being totally overpriced.

  5. Not quite yet. by FreeLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I can get one of these in the US for less than $100, then I will agree. Until then, there is more mass to be had before criticality.

  6. Those who fail to learn from history... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When Apple Computer CEO Steve Jobs walked into the suites of top record label executives in 2002, iTunes software in hand, he was welcomed as a trailblazer to a digital music future.

    Now, nearly two years after Apple's iTunes launch, record executives have become worried that they have inadvertently ceded too much power over their industry to this charismatic computer executive.

    Frustrated at what they see as Jobs' intransigence on song pricing and other issues, some record executives are now turning their hopes toward other partners...

    Cripes, this is so damn typical of the entertainment industry. They're so interested in screwing everyone they can for a buck that the minute someone is successful using their property, they feel they need to bite back. It's rather like watching a bunch of cavemen around the first fire. One gets burned so they all put the fire out with their clubs, then thump their chests and hoot in victory before sitting around in the dark and cold again.

    I think RIAA deserves the Duh! Prize (if there was one.) Next year or so it'll be the MPAA doing the same thing.

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  7. Re:Interesting to see this report by Leontes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your reading of the stockmarket is pretty shortsighted, I think. The correction which plagues apple stock right this moment is a crisis of faith; the looking for miracles rather than a logical progression of business. it's hard to imagine the ipod being more of success right now, or apple's star to look any brighter in the future.

    The idea of a critical mass has a beautiful ring to it, but it is the fundamentals and the continued approach to success which will continue Apple's ascension. It doesn't really matter what the marketplace will bring; with leadership like Jobs is showing the momentum seems like it will just continue.

  8. bread, circuses, low apr credit cards by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know a few people who spent their unemployment checks on iPods.

    Gotta have priorities.

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  9. critical mass eh? by vurg · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will the quality of music reach tolerable mass?

  10. Foresight? by zbuffered · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If MP3 players are rapidly approaching critical mass, how long will it take before car stereos will feature minijack inputs as standard?

    Considering the cost of including one versus the cost of replacing the deck so that you can plug your MP3 player in, why wouldn't more manufacturers be doing this? I know a few are, but I'm in the market for a new car and the deck that comes with it figures into the real cost. Replacing the stock stereo with one that will take input from my MP3 player should be unneccessary if these things are really at critical mass.

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  11. "Critical Mass" not good for apple by 0kComputer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They were talking about this on NPR yesterday, but instead of "critical mass" they called it market saturation.
    Thats why Apple's stock took a dump yesterday

    Problem for apple is that everyone already has an ipod and it will be tough to find new people to sell to.

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    1. Re:"Critical Mass" not good for apple by vertinox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Problem for apple is that everyone already has an ipod and it will be tough to find new people to sell to.

      Well I think that was the point to sell iPods to everyone possible... It's like how Nintendo, MS, and Sony sell all their gaming consoles at a loss and make their money from games. That is what Apple seems to intend to do with iTunes (even though the iPods are kind of overpriced).

      If they were to loose the lock out of being the only ones able to sell music that plays on the iPods then it's like if Nintendo had third party companies like Sony to make games for the Game Cube without a license (ala Tecmo's version of Tetris for the NES in the 80s) and they wouldn't be very tolerant of that.

      That and iPods were intended to introduce people to the Mac hardware line. Once people found that they loved iPods they started looking at Mini's and then started looking for everything from Apple. Perhaps Apple will be the next Microsoft in 5 years? That's only speculation....

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    2. Re:"Critical Mass" not good for apple by White+Roses · · Score: 3, Insightful
      No, Apple's stock took a dump because, historically, if Apple posts a profit, it takes a dump. Don't ask me why. It happens almost every time.

      And while it will be tough to find new people to sell to, that's not the only factor. Everybody also has a car. And yet, man, look at all the cars that get bought every single day. Everybody also has a computer, and a TV. So how the hell are those computer and TV makers staying in business? It's not a problem. It's a fact of the market. There may be less growth in iPods in years to come, but Apple will still sell plenty.

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    3. Re:"Critical Mass" not good for apple by sheemwaza · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem for apple is that everyone already has an ipod and it will be tough to find new people to sell to.

      Not when you sell a product that expires. Non replaceable batteries that expire every 18-36 months means people have to buy new ones. Also, there are constant feature upgrades -- even if they are only stylistic. I have an older iPod, and I can't wait for the battery to die so I can justify getting a new one with that awesome jog wheel... [drool]
      Similarly, the auto industry seems to be doing just fine.

    4. Re:"Critical Mass" not good for apple by radish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great. Now how do I skip to track 5? Oops.

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  12. Jupiter Research?? by Wes+Janson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is anyone else suddenly feeling the overwhelming urge to chamber a round into their shotgun? Is this the same Jupiter that is hell-bent on screwing over the internet with spyware and adware? If so, how on god's green earth is it that we're taking their "research" seriously?

  13. It's over. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The iPod craze is officially over, because Jupiter Research said it is about to explode. Thanks, Jupiter! Thanks a lot!

    These are guys who hyped "New Economy" companies until the dot-com bubble burst. With their razor scooters and their afros, they literally destroyed billions of dollars in market capitalization. There is no Earthly trend so massive, no business plan so potent, that Jupiter Research cannot destroy it.

    That's why they are called Jupiter. They are big. They have a lot of destructive gravity. And they are made ENTIRELY of gas.

  14. ... keep on failing to learn from it. by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Cripes, this is so damn typical of the entertainment industry.

    Yep, these are the guys who proclaimed that "home taping is killing music" back in the 1980, and killed off DAT in the 1990s. The MPAA cried bloody murder when VHS hit the market, but amazingly the global film industry is still quite robust.

    What really cracks me up is that the RIAA had their heads so far up their asses that they had *no strategy* whatsoever for online music sales until Jobs came along and offered them a way out. Now that they have a path away from stupidity, they're trying to jack prices up again, the same way they did with CDs.

    It's like they're fundamentally unprepared to realize that the landscape is changing and that they can't make the same margins they used to make per song. They have to shift their entire way of doing business, but they're so fat and happy that it's like Jabba the Hut doing the long jump.

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  15. MP3 Players at Critical Mass by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't people understand that it is dangerous to ride a bicycle while listening to music!?

  16. Re:WE GET THAT, OKAY? by Golias · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree with the grandparent post. "RIAA" is not a valid shorthand for "The Record Companies."

    First of all, the RIAA is an organization which includes labels, artists, engineers, and many others who are connected in one way or another to the recording industry. That little set of preamp-adjusted ports in your dad's stereo that he plugs his turntable into? That is an example of an RIAA standard.

    Secondly, the labels have been using "RIAA" as the plaintiff in several unpopular lawsuits for the specific purpose of getting people like you to think "damn RIAA" instead of "damn Sony, RCA, Virgin" when you get upset about your rights being trampled on. That way, folks keep buying their products like good little sheep without realizing who they should really be upset with. When you use "RIAA" as a "shorthand" for the real bad guys, you are helping their cause.

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  17. How about "learn from the grocery"? by abb3w · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Cripes, this is so damn typical of the entertainment industry.

    Errr.... no. In many industries, having a range of prices, especially that vary with time, allows not only for greater profits, but for larger numbers of satisfied customers. The math is a bit more involuted than a simple supply/demand scissors curve, because you also have to factor in substitutibility, price elasticity, and information costs, and time value of money, but in many situations this allows for a good thing all around.

    This is one reason why grocery stores have sales; people who would not ordinarily buy a product at price X will consider buying it at price 0.9X. Furthermore, it's one reason why grocery stores accept manufacturers coupons; the customer gets a lower price, the grocery store gets slightly more money (for slightly more hassle), and the increased sales (and potentially increased regular customers) result in net higher profits for the manufacturer.

    In this case, the RIAA is wishing that they could run the backcatalog at a discount, while charging a premium for newest releases. And if they were willing to, say, knock $0.24 off their current $0.65 share of the price for releases over 10 years old, while adding $0.01 to the recent releases and $0.25 to items released within the last year, I'd consider it likely to be a net benefit for consumers overall.

    Someone with more background in economics and without a head cold might explain it better, but it comes down to: the ability for suppliers to have prices that vary is a good thing for the consumer. Unnaturally fixed prices (such as, say, when fixed by a cartel) are bad.

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    1. Re:How about "learn from the grocery"? by JohnsonWax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Errr.... no. In many industries, having a range of prices, especially that vary with time, allows not only for greater profits, but for larger numbers of satisfied customers. The math is a bit more involuted than a simple supply/demand scissors curve, because you also have to factor in substitutibility, price elasticity, and information costs, and time value of money, but in many situations this allows for a good thing all around.

      Sure, but Apple and Steve also realize when it's time to change strategy, and it's not clear that they're being unneccessarily stubborn on this.

      In it's infancy, you don't want a service to be overly complicated to scare off potential users. Once that critical mass takes hold and the service begins to displace others, it can then afford to offer more choices.

      Apple in its rebuilding phases under Steve has always been about simplification - 4 product lines, Mac-only, what have you. Once those reach a given point, you expand and differentiate.

      I can't imagine that the $.99 only policy is a forever deal with Apple, but consider when this started, the up-front costs of buliding the iTMS, aiming for 1M songs in the library, with NO customers, nor a sense of what could realistically be expected looked like a huge money sink for Apple. So it was kept as simple as possible - one format, one bitrate, one pricing model, no pay-for-play, take it or leave it. It minimizes Apple's expense exposure and keeps the system from being overwhelming to customers.

      Roll ahead a few years to when iTMS is pushing 100M songs every other month (right about now) and you have a situation where enough revenue is coming through to support variable pricing, volume discount, frequent buyer programs, or whatever.

      Of course, the labels aren't going to report if Apple is planning these things, they want to jack prices up to $1.49 per song for the hot singles and recover Apple's $.09 in the process. After all, Apple's already spent the money to create the market which they don't need to reinvest.

      So I don't buy for a minute that Apple isn't planning for that day that songs are variably priced, but I think the labels are downplaying the challenges of offering $0.49 singles and still having enough money left over to cover the transaction costs. Of course, for old songs, they're not paying the artists any more, so they *could* lower their price to Apple, but I doubt they'll volunteer that.

  18. Re:You have no idea what you are talking about by Dony · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think it is unfair to mod this as "offtopic." After all, we are talking about Apple. And Apple, much like Christianity, was founded by a messianic, charismatic figure who could perform wondrous miracles, such as turn water into wine or OS 9 into OSX. Is the Sermon on the Mount not unlike a MacWorld keynote? Did Steve not suffer for our sins at the hands of the prefect Sculley? Did he not wander in the wilderness before retuning to us with the UNIX keys to our salvation?
    "Steve, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall buy a maxed-out 17 inch PowerBook and a top-of-the-line iPod."

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