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Grand Challenges in Networks for the Next 15 Years
jameshowison writes "Some of the researchers responsible for the Internet, including Bob Branden of ISI and David D Clark from MIT, have outlined what they see as the grand challenges for internetworking and computation in the next 10-15 years (PDF). The report from the IRTF's 'End-to-End Research Group' discussed the question, 'How might the computing and communications world be materially different in 10 to 15 years' and how do we get there? From a universal system for location, to small-area networks, to operation in time of crisis, software radio and an agenda to reduce the energy required for communications this document tries to imagine what will be like packet-switching was for the past 15 years."
Appearently, using HTML for documents is still a major challenge.
It only takes one person or company to implement things wrong, break protocol and then you have a mess. That is the grand challenge.
DOWN WITH TCP!
Duh ...
that this isn't one of those randomly generated MIT papers?
of what NOT to do.
Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox, July 14, 2003:
PDF: Unfit for Human Consumption
In this case, the article IS a big, linear text blob.
this document tries to imagine what will be like packet-switching was for the past 15 years.
I'm trying to imagine what this sentence means.. and it might take me 10-15 years.
The major Internet applications, by volume, are spam, piracy, and advertising. This trend will continue. By 2020, 98% of all Internet traffic will be illegal in some way.
Quite spankable, apparently.
I want a new world. I think this one is broken.
How about just starting small, like getting Win XP to reliably connect to hotspots?
... Netcraft revealed today that networking is dying.
... you aren't posting here just to pimp your FreePSP scheme?
is how to prevent pr0n from popping up while you're surfing the internet during study hall.
... unless you're actually surfing for pr0n in school.
Debugging? Klingons do not debug. Bugs are good for building character in the user.
They claim there isn't an emergency broadcast system - but we have Slashdot! The second anything big goes wrong, there it is!
My Journal
Because it's still going to be the WAN from LAN network that we'll be working on forever.
I've got a LAN setup running 200x as fast as the fastest WAN/Internet connection readily available (minus a special order and uber expensive DS3). And at the pace we're going, the US is getting slower and slower as far as the Internet connections go.
Right now I can completely rewire my office and home for $5k with state of the art, high end network components and have it done in less than a week. I can't get close to those speeds with my net connection for 4x that price ($20k/year).
That being said, there is still hope somewhere
Get paid to code OSS
The biggest challenge will be moving the entire internet onto IPv6
google cache, html version
Would've posted anonymously, but apparently excessive bad posting has occured from my IP or Subnet.
We need to improve interpersonal communication via computer internetworking. And until Punch You In The Face over Ethernet (PYITFoE) is widely available, we will only ever scratch the surface of the rich tapestry of human interaction.
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
I for one welcome our new visionary, low cost, ubiquitous, location aware, trustworthy, special needs supporting, quantum coherence preserving, intelligent, energy-efficient, cyber-world overlords.
By 15 years and the way the worlds going ( development of EMP bombs ect) have to fall back to (RFC2549)
;)
Not that I'm cynical or anything
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
-identify a person
-identify a computer
-move a file (yes an email can be wrapped as a file)
-non-lossy streaming (IM, telnet,...)
-lossy streaming (MMedia)
Now if we could replace the thirty-elleven thingies with a "p" as last letter by the above 5...
10 ?"Hello World" life was simple then
The little section about location technology was very interesting. I love using my GPS, it has opened up a new sport to me and allows me to do some very interesting things, but I am bothered by the fact that it only works outdoors. Having a GPS-like systems that worked everywhere will be very cool, and integration with existing devices might bring the "smart home" I've been hearing about for the past 15 years into reality.
The one part missing from my home automation system is the ability to autonomously process input. I have to use a remote control for events that aren't based on a repeating schedule. It would be nice to be able to walk into a room and have my wrist watch alert my automation server as to my whereabouts, then have the lighting dynamically adjust to me.
Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know. ~Lao Tzu
It appears as co-author
Wasn't he dead?
Switch to IPv6
Multimedia "over IP" will not become mainstream without virtual circuit technologies. Also, we are being lazy and letting NAT take care of the lack of addressing provided by IPv4.
Your server rooms will smell like curry.
Do you think when skynet becomes self aware, it wouldnt acquire admin rights on ./ and lock out all postings about "killer terminator robots seen motorbiking round LA" or "help, the military grid is now sentient".
/. audience are the people who stand a chance of stopping it, it would probably distract them all with different postings, like "free video p0rn service", or introduce a special distro of linux which looked like a descendant of debian but turned out to be a node in the syket grid-brain.
Instead, assuming that the
If I look five years ahead, I worry about how to design networks and protocols that are defensible against MPAA, RIAA and generic lawsuits.
A lot of the adhoc stuff in the PDF look a bit like this something that must terrify the {MPA.RIA}A lawyers who would like to make DRM a requirement of all future network topologies and protocols.
TCP was an implicit political statement. It said "we don't need telcos to make us pay for every second of a virtual ciruit", the way the OSI architecture was designed.
Future networks need to think about what threats there are to their functional operation, its not just scalability, or adhoc-ness, its defending against politicians and lawyers who dont understand.
The report from the IRTF's 'End-to-End Research Group' discussed the question ...
:-)
If that new End-to-End Research Group is in any way related to the "100,000 blondes laid end to end" joke, there's going to be a lot more people applying for research positions there as soon as the word gets out!
Low-latency interactive services (VoIP, video conferencing, games, more esoteric things ...) are not
on their radar. Surprising ...
What was Slashdot thinking posting an article/report thats 13 pages long. Did they really expect any intelligent posts. People have enough problem reading articles that are 2 pages long. I doubt less then 10% of the people who post will actually have rtfa hell 10% is probably the normal amount of posters who read the articles. Well so much for a usefull discussion.
Back on topic I doubt quatum comuting will be around in 10 years. Sure they are making progress but not nearly enough for a full blown computer. I say in 10 years they will have developed simple logic gate like structures. Spintronics are far far away and to believe that it will be here in 10 years is definetly optimistic. Though I would say they should start considering it and look at how implementation in networks will affect the gloabl/local communities and economies but they are being overly optimistic. The current state of quatum computing is that we can change the spin in one atom and the other changes too. I say maybe 50 to 100 years we wil have full working quatum computers that will be used by the public or even universities. There is so much more that they can do with new types of transistors that electronics will not be replaced by spintronics for quite some time.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
for me that's a pretty big assumption
Be aware that there is prior art.
The main issue I take with this paper is that it proposes a series of solutions without talking about any relevant application or problem that it will solve except for in an occasionally very generic way "We need better security" for example.
.02
That and the fact that it seems to have been written with the longest most convoluted sentences possible.
Major change happens when an intelligent person solves a very real problem in a way that seems obvious once it's completed but that few others would have come up with.
This paper starts by dissing incremental improvements and then goes on to rehash... wait for it... incremental improvements. How can you compare "better security" to Packet Switching in terms of revolutionary technology?
In my opinion major advances in the next 10-15 years will be driven by content-based applications. Technology is cheap and is becomming a commodity. It will not make any more major leaps until there is a content driver and industry to take it there.
For example, when we can all print flat panels for wall paper what will we have to display on them? An entirely new content and distribution industry will emerge to fill these and other voids and THEN technology will again stride ahead.
Just my
I'm personally skeptical about QC, but if it does work then things will become Very Interesting. In particular, if Quantum Computers are limited by Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, Planck's Constant is about 10**-47, so you can work around it by adding ~150 (or ~1500, if there are log-scaling issues) bits to your crypto keys and not worry about it, but if they can get around this by chaining individual qubit cells together, then they really can bother factoring-based crypto.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
The big problem I've seen with IPv6 is that its goals not only included bigger address space, which we've been able to slack off by using RFC1918 private space, firewalls, and NAT, but it also promised to do Really Cool Things to make routing infrastructures more scalable and better behaved, and that doesn't appear to have panned out yet. That means that not only do routing tables get bigger because the addresses are longer (which you fix by waiting for a couple of year's of Moore's Law to fix memory pricing), but there's likely to be a repeat of the "IPv4 Class C Address Swamp" which nobody wants, or the "Upstream-Provider Non-Portable Address Space Lock-In" features which customers don't like, and which makes multi-homing for reliability much harder. And that doesn't seem to have been done yet.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
The idea of having a GPS type device which operates everywhere is a great idea, however the problem with the current system is the need for the receiver device to be able to see satellites (i.e. the signal is line of sight only), and that buildings do a fairly good job of blocking the satellite signal.
There are three solutions to this with the current technology:
InfoSec that matters, when it counts.
* rational sized route tables
* portable ips
pick one
with the ipv6 policies as with current ipv4 policies they decided to pick the former.
One of the purposes of the huge address space is to divide it up so that there won't be such a glut of small class-C's that have to be kept in the routing tables, instead it'll be much more aggregateable.
I know my grand challenge for the next 15 years is to get laid! Who's with me?
unless you want number portability. oops.