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Nintendo Revolution Under Wraps Past E3

The next-generation Nintendo console, codenamed Revolution, may not be shown at this year's E3. Eurogamer reports that the Japanese console maker is going to keep the console under wraps to keep the features of the new system out of the limelight a little while longer. From the article: "Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata is worried about rivals nicking all his best ideas at this early stage. That's how revolutionary the new console is, apparently... and also the exact same line Nintendo used to avoid showing Mario 128 at a previous E3."

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  1. Hmmm... by Nicky+G · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it has.... 3 screens?

    1. Re:Hmmm... by glassjaw+rocks · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they'll call it the Nintendo Mach III. Then Microsoft will probably release the Xbox Quattro, or something to that effect.

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    2. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, that joke was Schick.

    3. Re:Hmmm... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      its "innovative" features don't impress consumers as much as the PSP's

      And that is why it isn't selling as much as the PSP. Oh wait.

      what with Microsoft and that whole "Live" thing.

      And the 8% of XBOX gamers who use it. EIGHT PERCENT! Less than one out of ten.

      God damn it. I'm so fucking tired of the cheap shots at Nintendo. They are the fucking ones that are making money. Q2 of FY 2003 was the only full quarter loss Nintendo reported in 50 years, and everyone predicts their doom. The XBOX has one profitable quarter after eleven straight losses, and everyone calls them a success.

    4. Re:Hmmm... by gameboyhippo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm so ... tired of the cheap shots at Nintendo. They are the ... ones that are making money. Q2 of FY 2003 was the only full quarter loss Nintendo reported in 50 years, and everyone predicts their doom. The XBOX has one profitable quarter after eleven straight losses, and everyone calls them a success.

      I think people take cheap shots at them because they don't want to admit that "kiddy games" such as Zelda: Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine are a lot more fun to play than those hack and slash "grownup" games.

      I'm 23 years old and most of my games are E rated. Some are T rated. None are M rated. M rated games just aren't very fun. My buddies tease me about it, but who isn't having fun playing Mario Kart or Mario Party? Who doesn't like to drop a bomb bug on their enemies pikmin and blow 'em to bits? Who doesn't think the storyline to Windwaker is interesting?

  2. Boss Satoru Iwata... by iammaxus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...he is definitley the hardest one to beat. I remember that time I played all night long and I made it up to Boss SI (that's what it says above his life bar cause his name doesn't fit on the screen). I was kickin ass, but then my mom came and pulled the stupid plug.

  3. Shy Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because of course Sony and Microsoft only hear about features at conferences like E3. While the rest of us get the inside track at Slashdot!

  4. As they say... by FhnuZoag · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

  5. Re:Lets just hope it isn't too revolutionary by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "That's how revolutionary the new console is Lets just hope that doesn't mean something like "Lets dare to be different, and use annoying mini-disks instead of the standard DVDs. They provide lower quality, AND they don't meet up to modern-day standards. Its brilliant!"

    This might be insightful if Nintendo wasn't responsible for the standard 4 controller ports, standard analog sticks, standard 'rumble' functions, the huge portable gaming market, yadda yadda yadda.

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  6. Re:Lets just hope it isn't too revolutionary by DanthemaninVA1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They provide lower quality..." AND they reduce piracy, which is excessively rampant for the XBox and the PS2. Go looking for XBox and PS2 game torrents, and you'll find them by the hundreds. You'll be able to count the number of Gamecube torrents on your fingers. Besides...lower quality that's also better than the PS2? Not lower quality, but rather less space.

  7. Tokyo Game Show? by -kertrats- · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Might they be holding out to unveil it at the Tokyo Game Show, so that they can completely steal the headlines for the entire show instead of sharing space with the other systems at E3?

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  8. Solid marketing Decision by briankoenig · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't understand why everybody thinks that this shows that Nintendo is "behind" or "not prepared" to show Revolution to the public. I think the decision makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint.

    Nintendo can unveil it at E3, and go up against Microsoft and Sony's HUGE marketing budget and hype. Magazines would probably have a triple feature, with sections given to each system and the respective company booths.

    Or, Nintendo can wait a couple of months until the media coverage dies down a little bit, unveil the console, and get the cover of every non-platform-specific major game magazine in the biz. This decision shows not a lack of preparation or a schedule issue, but a smart martketing choice.

  9. Re:Stupid Nintendo! by bartyboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does everyone blast Nintendo for doing what Apple has been doing for years? Both companies produce a very solid product and don't want their thunder and/or hard work stolen by a bunch of copycats.

    Their goal is not the domination of their particular market; instead, they focus on being profitable companies. I say kudos to them for having the balls to make something that works well, is fun and intuitive to use AND still be able to sell enough of it to make some money. And if it takes some secrecy to bring their products to the market, then I'm all for it.

  10. Rare? by Ian+Action · · Score: 5, Informative
    Microsoft has Rare and Bungie.

    When's the last time Rare made a good game?

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  11. Re:Stupid Nintendo! by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nintendo have tried to move the games industry on unlike the other two. I suggest you look at the current system names.

    Xbox 360 - It's a "cool" name for the "skaters". It's bullshit, flip an Xbox 360 and you get an Xbox just like before.

    Playstation 3 - All I'm saying is "Yes but these are different, they go all the way up to 11!"

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  12. Here we go again by mcc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because slashdot just absolutely has to print every single rumor without ever once actually saying the rumor is offered without basis...

    Nintendo has said multiple times that they will be unveiling the Revolution at E3. They've given warnings along the lines that it may be at an early stage, or that it won't be playable, or that some of the demos may be behind-closed-doors, at E3. But they at least have said they'll be showing it. And this has been said by Nintendo representatives, speaking on the record.

    So, what's the source for this article slashdot links, which is saying it won't be?

    "Reports". From "Japan".

    You'll excuse me if I take repeated statements by official persons speaking for Nintendo more seriously than "reports from Japan".

  13. Re:Lets just hope it isn't too revolutionary by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Informative

    Vibrating controllers came to be standard fare when the Rumble Pak came about.

    Not long after the N64 was unveiled, Sony released it's Dual Shock controller (complete with 2!! analog sticks and a built in 'rumble' feature.) to the PS1. Then, the Dreamcast had it's own 'rumble pak'. Then the PS2 came with the Dual Shock Controllers. Then the XBOX came along... etc.

    Personally, that little tidbit about the Dual Shock controller is what's making me wonder about Nintendo's secrecy, here. I personally think that they did something snazzy with the controller, but they're trying to prevent an imitation of the feature from making it into the boxes of the PS3 and XBOX02's.

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  14. Re:Bad news by SetupWeasel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look at me. I'm bashing my head on the keyboard.

    sfdgferbewfrerszt trewrd fgdswerdesbf

    Do you really think that showing it to the public is the same as showing it to developers?

  15. Re:what are they afraid of? by spoonboy42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if these features turn out to be a success in the marketplace -- unlikely if the DS is any indicator...

    If anything, I'd say DS sales bode quite well for Nintendo. It's already past 6 million units, set the all-time record for highest-volume launch sales in the UK, sold 40% past Nintendo's holiday projections... And, Nintendo's production line is up to speed and has thus far prevented any serious DS shortages in any market (say what you will about the limited initial supply of the PS2 or the PSP creating additional product lust, it's still nice to be able to actually buy a console).

    The DS has a lot going for it: the touch screen and microphone enable some very fun interaction that's perfect for short stints of mobile gaming. Plus, it has backwards compatibility with the whole library of GBA titles. Everyone says the PSP has a strong launch lineup... this is somewhat true, although many of the titles are just ports of PS2 games with reduced technical capability (near-PS2 graphics is an exaggeration, the graphics look more like some of the better quality Dreamcast games, but that still ain't bad). The only PSP title that really does it for me right now is Lumines, and that doesn't use the PSP's horsepower anyway.

    Nintendo still knows the portable gaming market very well, and I think the interface features on the DS will continue to do quite well there. The PlayStation Portable is pretty much just that, a shrunken-down version of an ordinary console. Nintendo is trying to enable a new, unique experience on the DS, whereas Sony is trying to deliver a home-console gaming experience that comes along with you. The one thing that the PSP has going over the DS as a portable entertainment device is its multimedia capabilities, but even those are far from polished. If you want to enjoy music and video on the PSP, you have to buy a bigger memory stick (and it has to be the Duo version), and you can't just drag and drop songs and videos from your PC, that'd be way too easy. Instead, you must use special software (definitely not included in the box) to properly convert and obfuscate those files, and you're still limited to the 1GB size of Sony's largest memory stick. Sony has made an effort to make the PSP a multimedia convergence device, but it is, unfortunately, halfhearted. Hopefully they will roll in some improvements in subsequent firmware updates, but I still wish they would have included a little slot on the back that could hold a mini hard-drive option.

    People want a convergence device, but the PSP hasn't made multimedia use easy enough for the average user yet, and I doubt it will do a whole lot to stave off the cell phone's continued drive to assimilate every other peice of portable electronics. This isn't a huge issue for Sony, as they are in that market, too (I have a T610 and I love it, Sony's definitely got that down, don't get me wrong). If you want a portable gaming device, though, the innovation present in the DS, for me and for a whole lot of other gamers, trumps the raw power and the (I'll admit it) oh-so-sexy screen of the PSP.

    Notice, however, that what Nintendo has going on with the DS doesn't necessarily translate to whatever the hell they're planning with revolution. To succeed in the home console space, they need 3rd party developer support (it's becoming clear that, despite continued strong showings from the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises, they just aren't system sellers anymore), and they need to make a decent technical showing against Microsoft and Sony. Now, Microsoft started this generation with a very small selection of games but obvious technical superiority, showcased by their trump title Halo, and gradually built up a solid selection of titles. Sony had backwards compatibility with the vast universe of PS1 games, plus astoundingly great 3rd party support that gave them plenty of system sellers at no development cost to them (Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, Tekken, Soul Calibur... all developed by 3rd parties), and was first to launch by

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  16. Re:Shhh!! Secrets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uhhh, nice try at sarcasm, but Gamecube outsold Xbox in worldwide totals. Oh, and more importantly, Nintendo MADE MONEY on the Gamecube. Get a clue.

  17. Re:Stupid Nintendo! by Adrilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you rotate an XBox 360 degrees, I dare say, you get a full (wait for it) REVOLUTION!!!

    ..i hate myself...

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