This is Bethesda's doing, and not Microsoft's. Apparently, if you want the official Bethesda horse armor mod on the PC, you still have to pay $2.50, which is roughly the equivalent of 200 MS points.
I honestly don't see why everyone is freaking out about this; message boards seem to have exploded in rage all over the internet since yesterday, and it's really not that big a deal. I don't feel like $2.50 is worth a mod that doesn't actually do anything (the "armor" doesn't actually increase the horse's armor class, it just makes it look nice), and I feel like a lot of people are thinking the same thing. When Bethesda finds out that people aren't willing to pay that amount for so little, I'm guessing that future content will be priced more in line with the value it gives players. All in all, this really has nothing to do with Microsoft or how horrible the 360 is, but with why Bethesda chose that price for this particular content.
A sibling of this post raised the issue of inflation, but that doesn't really matter; since the real value of money hasn't changed; gamers make more, and things cost more.
What really matters is that the average age of gamers has risen significantly since then. People who grew up begging their parents for an NES (me) are now in our 20s, with our own income. We no longer need to beg our parents for the add-on the to expensive console they just bought for us, we bought the console, and if we want it, we'll go out and buy the HD-DVD drive, too.
You didn't notice that movies have a different release model than games, did you? Movies come out several times: theaters, rentals, DVD releases, syndication on television. Games come out once, and so they have to cost more if the people that produce them are going to make money. You also forgot about inflation. Prices on things go up nominally over time. If you do the chain weight of the cost of a game today in 1980 dollars, the prices are probably closer than you think.
I'm going to do a little math, since you obviously don't know how.
I'm going to buy an Xbox 360 Premium bundle...who wants just the core system? That comes to $400. I'm going to buy two games. I'll say they'll both be expensive, and say they'll be $60 each.
$400 + $60 + $60 = $520
So....how is this a $700 bundle, again?
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"First let me commend you on a well written, witty & very entertaining read. It is good to see that there are still people on the web that can produce a coherent & well argued thought."
Too bad you aren't one of them. You never clearly choose what your point in this whole....thing....is, and when you do say something the comes close to the possibility of being remotely interesting, your horrifying grammar detracts from it. Honestly, go back to the third grade.
Did you even read the parent post? It didn't say anything about Nintendo games being for kids. It said that there seemed to be a high concentration of Nintendo-produced games on it.
Chrono Trigger: Square
FF IV: Square
GoldenEye: Rare
Learn to read before you just start mouthing off.
Planescape: Torment. You can avoid most fights in the game if you use the correct dialogue choices. You also get more experience points by avoiding the fight than you do for killing everyone.
Ripping your CD collection to Ogg was your choice; I listen to 192 kbps mp3's because I know that they can be played on the widest variety of players. You decided to limit yourself when you ripped your music collection. That's not Apple's fault.
If we "believe in Star Trek..."?
Are you kidding me?
Science fiction is ENTERTAINMENT, not religion. It's a genre of books, film, and television, not a protestant denomination or somesuch.
If you "believe in Star Trek," I feel sorry for you.
Yes. I too doubt that an engine for current generation hardware can replicate and engine for next generation hardware. Thanks for the tip, Captain Obvious.
You do realize that in a few months, all of the maps you have to pay for now will be free, right? I'm patient...I can wait until September and have all the maps that everyone else does. The only people who have to pay are the ones that want them sooner.
It was pretty much endless puzzles, fighting three different types of enemies that had very little variation, and just one final boss. It wasn't boring at all.
I assume by "the better console" that you mean a PS2. I own all three of the current consoles, and my least favorite controller is the dualshock. The plastic it's made from is too thin; it feels like a fragile toy. The positions of the thumbsticks are too low on the controller, and too close together. I have big hands, and this causes major cramps. The thumbsticks are also too short, and the way they're crowned causes my thumbs to slip. The way the D-pad is arranged makes it a pain to press more than one arrow at a time. The L1 and R1 buttons are just too small. The thumbsticks don't give enough feedback, and you can push them too far without them actually doing anything.
The S-type xbox controller has none of these problems.
Diggory brought back an apple from Narnia's version of Eden to save his dying mother. He planted the apple's core in his backyard, where it grew into a tree, and was blown over in a storm. Diggory loved the tree so much that he didn't want to just drag it out and throw it away, so he had it made into a wardrobe.
My computer is probably about the same as yours; many times more powerful than an XBox. And yet, when i tried the Prince of Persia: Warrior Within demo on my computer, and ran like complete shit. I got the game for XBox, and it would experience a tiny bit of slowdown on rare occasions.
While the XBox may not be as powerful, a lot of bloat can be removed for the game by optimizing for a single hardware platform. No, the graphics won't be as super-good. Yes, it will still look great.
"They provide lower quality..."
AND they reduce piracy, which is excessively rampant for the XBox and the PS2. Go looking for XBox and PS2 game torrents, and you'll find them by the hundreds. You'll be able to count the number of Gamecube torrents on your fingers.
Besides...lower quality that's also better than the PS2? Not lower quality, but rather less space.
I'm just going to point out some things that I think.
I would take Planescape: Torment for RPGs over any Final Fantasy game, hands down.
Ico had an emotional pull like few other games I've played.
Not that I don't love Splinter Cell, but I'd rather play any of the Metal Gear Solid games any day.
I hate to use newer games that have just come out really recently, but in WWII shooters, Call of Duty and Brothers in Arms are just head an shoulders above the rest.
So, if you need to press a "Talk" button in order to talk to it, how is this useful? I could see a remote that sits on the floor hidden behind the couch, and you just talk and it recognizes that it's being given a command. If you need the "Talk" button, it's no more useful than a normal remote.
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This is Bethesda's doing, and not Microsoft's. Apparently, if you want the official Bethesda horse armor mod on the PC, you still have to pay $2.50, which is roughly the equivalent of 200 MS points.
I honestly don't see why everyone is freaking out about this; message boards seem to have exploded in rage all over the internet since yesterday, and it's really not that big a deal. I don't feel like $2.50 is worth a mod that doesn't actually do anything (the "armor" doesn't actually increase the horse's armor class, it just makes it look nice), and I feel like a lot of people are thinking the same thing. When Bethesda finds out that people aren't willing to pay that amount for so little, I'm guessing that future content will be priced more in line with the value it gives players. All in all, this really has nothing to do with Microsoft or how horrible the 360 is, but with why Bethesda chose that price for this particular content.
A sibling of this post raised the issue of inflation, but that doesn't really matter; since the real value of money hasn't changed; gamers make more, and things cost more.
What really matters is that the average age of gamers has risen significantly since then. People who grew up begging their parents for an NES (me) are now in our 20s, with our own income. We no longer need to beg our parents for the add-on the to expensive console they just bought for us, we bought the console, and if we want it, we'll go out and buy the HD-DVD drive, too.
You didn't notice that movies have a different release model than games, did you? Movies come out several times: theaters, rentals, DVD releases, syndication on television. Games come out once, and so they have to cost more if the people that produce them are going to make money. You also forgot about inflation. Prices on things go up nominally over time. If you do the chain weight of the cost of a game today in 1980 dollars, the prices are probably closer than you think.
I'm going to do a little math, since you obviously don't know how.
I'm going to buy an Xbox 360 Premium bundle...who wants just the core system? That comes to $400.
I'm going to buy two games. I'll say they'll both be expensive, and say they'll be $60 each.
$400 + $60 + $60 = $520
So....how is this a $700 bundle, again?
"First let me commend you on a well written, witty & very entertaining read. It is good to see that there are still people on the web that can produce a coherent & well argued thought."
Too bad you aren't one of them. You never clearly choose what your point in this whole....thing....is, and when you do say something the comes close to the possibility of being remotely interesting, your horrifying grammar detracts from it. Honestly, go back to the third grade.
Too bad the only preorders you can get for it online are for $600 and up bundles. Anybody know where you can preorder the vanilla $400 bundle?
No. I believe you can find a finger bone in one of the cabinets in the mortuary that acts as a portkey. No zombie-killing required.
And if you're not ALREADY a web developer, that certainly eliminates ever becoming one, right?
Did you even read the parent post? It didn't say anything about Nintendo games being for kids. It said that there seemed to be a high concentration of Nintendo-produced games on it. Chrono Trigger: Square FF IV: Square GoldenEye: Rare Learn to read before you just start mouthing off.
Planescape: Torment. You can avoid most fights in the game if you use the correct dialogue choices. You also get more experience points by avoiding the fight than you do for killing everyone.
Ripping your CD collection to Ogg was your choice; I listen to 192 kbps mp3's because I know that they can be played on the widest variety of players. You decided to limit yourself when you ripped your music collection. That's not Apple's fault.
I guess the egg is on the faces of all my friends who think that economics is a worthless minor for a computer science major.
If we "believe in Star Trek..."? Are you kidding me? Science fiction is ENTERTAINMENT, not religion. It's a genre of books, film, and television, not a protestant denomination or somesuch. If you "believe in Star Trek," I feel sorry for you.
Yes. I too doubt that an engine for current generation hardware can replicate and engine for next generation hardware. Thanks for the tip, Captain Obvious.
Wow, we're all impressed by your big words. Monkeyball with two balls would just be more of the same. You'd just have to do it twice as fast.
You do realize that in a few months, all of the maps you have to pay for now will be free, right? I'm patient...I can wait until September and have all the maps that everyone else does. The only people who have to pay are the ones that want them sooner.
Couldn't the same be said about Ico?
It was pretty much endless puzzles, fighting three different types of enemies that had very little variation, and just one final boss. It wasn't boring at all.
...that they got the title of the movie wrong?
I assume by "the better console" that you mean a PS2. I own all three of the current consoles, and my least favorite controller is the dualshock. The plastic it's made from is too thin; it feels like a fragile toy. The positions of the thumbsticks are too low on the controller, and too close together. I have big hands, and this causes major cramps. The thumbsticks are also too short, and the way they're crowned causes my thumbs to slip. The way the D-pad is arranged makes it a pain to press more than one arrow at a time. The L1 and R1 buttons are just too small. The thumbsticks don't give enough feedback, and you can push them too far without them actually doing anything. The S-type xbox controller has none of these problems.
Diggory brought back an apple from Narnia's version of Eden to save his dying mother. He planted the apple's core in his backyard, where it grew into a tree, and was blown over in a storm. Diggory loved the tree so much that he didn't want to just drag it out and throw it away, so he had it made into a wardrobe.
My computer is probably about the same as yours; many times more powerful than an XBox. And yet, when i tried the Prince of Persia: Warrior Within demo on my computer, and ran like complete shit. I got the game for XBox, and it would experience a tiny bit of slowdown on rare occasions. While the XBox may not be as powerful, a lot of bloat can be removed for the game by optimizing for a single hardware platform. No, the graphics won't be as super-good. Yes, it will still look great.
"They provide lower quality..." AND they reduce piracy, which is excessively rampant for the XBox and the PS2. Go looking for XBox and PS2 game torrents, and you'll find them by the hundreds. You'll be able to count the number of Gamecube torrents on your fingers. Besides...lower quality that's also better than the PS2? Not lower quality, but rather less space.
Shhh...that's why I didn't name a genre for it.
I'm just going to point out some things that I think.
I would take Planescape: Torment for RPGs over any Final Fantasy game, hands down.
Ico had an emotional pull like few other games I've played.
Not that I don't love Splinter Cell, but I'd rather play any of the Metal Gear Solid games any day.
I hate to use newer games that have just come out really recently, but in WWII shooters, Call of Duty and Brothers in Arms are just head an shoulders above the rest.
So, if you need to press a "Talk" button in order to talk to it, how is this useful? I could see a remote that sits on the floor hidden behind the couch, and you just talk and it recognizes that it's being given a command. If you need the "Talk" button, it's no more useful than a normal remote.