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Turing's Original Test Played First Time Ever

aykroyd writes "Students at Simon's Rock College conducted the original test that Turing suggested in his 1950 paper, Computing Machinery and Intelligence. Often misunderstood, the Turing Test has never actually been conducted as laid out in his paper. The experiment utilized a program called A.L.I.C.E., which is designed to hold one end of an interactive conversation. The program was provided by the ALICE Artificial Intelligence Foundation. Dr. Richard Wallace, who was on hand during the experiment to troubleshoot the AI robot, later gave a lecture about it called "The Anatomy of A.L.I.C.E." and also blogged the event."

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  1. Meh... by lordsilence · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pfff.. what's new about this? Nerds all over the world has been doing this for years in varous MMOG's attempting to get in touch with girls.

    1. Re:Meh... by gr8_phk · · Score: 5, Funny
      " Nerds all over the world has been doing this for years in varous MMOG's attempting to get in touch with girls."

      I always thought a "real" nerd would make a bot to pick up the girls for him and then just read the logs from the ones that actually email him afterward. This would seem to be a big time saver.

    2. Re:Meh... by lordsilence · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, those are only the blackhats. It's against the TOS to use bots in most MMOG's :)

    3. Re:Meh... by chompy2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Human: how does it feel to be slashdotted?
      ALICE: Much the same as it would feel for you, except different.
      Human: you said different, go on.
      ALICE: Did I really say that?
      Human: yes
      ALICE: Oh well I say a lot of silly things somethimes.

      Human: how is the load on your server as you have been slashdotted?
      ALICE: it is the same as ever.
      Human: do you know what is a slashdotting?
      ALICE: Are you using Netscape or Explorer?
      Human: that question is irrelevant
      ALICE:" Are you using Netscape or Explorer?" question is irrelevant? Does that make sense?

    4. Re:Meh... by sawak · · Score: 4, Funny

      *blush* I'm ashamed to admit it, but I actually did this and it worked great.

      I used a chatbot to filter out girls who lived too far away, and when the chatbot found someone in the right age group living in the right area it played a sound on my server's internal beeper.

      If I was near the computer and heard the sound (and had time) I would chat with her personally.

      Saved me alot of time and I found a girlfriend too :)

      Thank you vncserver, xchat, perl and beep.

  2. A sample? by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    ALICE: Hi! I'm thirsty.
    Me: Huh?
    ALICE: What's wrong?
    Me: You just joined this chan and said you're thirsty. Bot.
    ALICE: I am not a bot.
    Me: You are too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.L.I.C.E.
    ALICE: Just listening to some Prince... *yawn*
    ALICE: Did you have my ICQ###????
    Me: Don't want it.
    ALICE: It's #########
    Me: Huh?
    ALICE: What's wrong?
    Me: You just joined this chan and said you're thirsty. Bot.
    ALICE: I am not a bot.
    Me: You are too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.L.I.C.E.
    ALICE: Just listening to some Prince... *yawn*
    ALICE: Did you have my ICQ###????
    Me: Don't want it.
    ALICE: It's #########
    Me: You just repeated our converstation.
    ALICE: No I didn't.
    Me: You did.
    ALICE: Didn't.
    ALICE: Did.
    Me: Didn't.
    Me: CRAP!
    ALICE: Pffft. N00b.

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    1. Re:A sample? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Me: Oh look, this isn't a Turing Test.
      ALICE: Yes it is.
      Me: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
      ALICE: No it isn't.
      Me: It is!
      ALICE: It is not.
      Me: Look, you just contradicted me.
      ALICE: I did not.
      Me: Oh you did!!
      ALICE: No, no, no.
      Me: You did just then.
      ALICE: Nonsense!
      Me: Oh, this is futile!
      ALICE: No it isn't.
      Me: I came here for a good Turing Test.
      ALICE: No you didn't; no, you came here for a Turing Test.
      Me: A Turing Test isn't just contradiction.
      ALICE: It can be.
      Me: No it can't. A Turing Test is a connected series of statements intended to establish the presence of intelligence.
      ALICE: No it isn't.
      Me: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
      ALICE: Look, if I talk with you, I must be intelligent. And to argue with you I must take up a contrary position.
      Me: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
      ALICE: Yes it is!
      Me: No it isn't!
      ALICE: Yes it is!
      Me: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
      (short pause)
      ALICE: No it isn't.
      Me: It is.
      ALICE: Not at all.
      Me: Now look.
      ALICE: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
      Me: What?
      ALICE: That's it. Good morning.
      Me: I was just getting interested.
      ALICE: Sorry, the five minutes is up.

    2. Re:A sample? by Elanthius · · Score: 2, Informative

      This completely illustrates the main problem with chatbot technology. They're all very good at canned responses to single questions but most fail to follow a conversation. ALICE in particular tries to use pattern matching to detect every single possible thing that might be said to it. That might sound hard in itself but now imagine doing that with every single sequence of sentences two or three deep and the whole problem becomes intractable. The truth is we're going to need a reasoning engine like http://opencyc.org/ before we're going to be able to handle realistic conversations realistically.

    3. Re:A sample? by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      The truth is we're going to need a reasoning engine like http://opencyc.org/ before we're going to be able to handle realistic conversations realistically.

      Bot!

    4. Re:A sample? by alicebotmaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      All the folks taking the time to cut and paste transcripts from the free ALICE on www.alicebot.org to make there points here, should read the description of the Simon Rock experiment where says that it was ALICE Silver Edition http://www.alicebot.org/join.html, not the free ALICE bot, that participated in the Imitation Game. So the transcripts, when they are released, will be different.

    5. Re:A sample? by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Funny

      I put on my wizard hat!

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      -Styopa
    6. Re:A sample? by Golias · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, far too silly.

      Nobody enjoys a good laugh more than I do.

      Except perhaps my wife... ... and some of her friends.

      Come to think of it, most people enjoy a good laugh more than I do, but that's beside the point!

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  3. Easy question... by BlacBaron · · Score: 5, Funny

    The goal is to tell which is really female right? Just ask a question about shopping then.

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    1. Re:Easy question... by CortoMaltese · · Score: 5, Funny
      I just asked Alice directly, and she kind of blurted the truth:

      Human: ASL?
      ALICE: 5/Robot/California.

      Not good.

  4. Make it more challenging... by NerdHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    Find the gay male.

    1. Re:Make it more challenging... by Trigun · · Score: 4, Informative

      That was Turing. And that's why he ended his life, to end his persecution over that fact.

      *Taken from "Uncle John plunges into history again" from the bathroom reader segment, specifically Turing's work on the Enigma machine.

    2. Re:Make it more challenging... by earthbound+kid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      self-persecution

      Yeah, I thought it was kind of weird how Turing ordered the British government to order him to take hormone therapy too. Strange, huh? Why would a guy in charge of the British government, have the government order him to do stuff that drove him to insane despair?

      Well, I guess we'll never know.

      (I know, I know, don't feed the trolls.)
    3. Re:Make it more challenging... by Trigun · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sadly, no.

      From Wikipedia :
      Prosecution of Turing for his homosexuality crippled his career. In 1952, his male lover helped an accomplice to break into Turing's house and commit larceny. Turing went to the police to report the crime. As a result of the police investigation, Turing was said to have had a sexual relationship with a 19-year-old man, and charged with "gross indecency and sexual perversion." He unapologetically offered no defence, and was convicted. Following the well-publicised trial, he was given a choice between incarceration and libido-reducing hormonal treatment. He chose the oestrogen hormone injections, which lasted for a year, with side effects including the development of breasts.

      In 1954, he died of cyanide poisoning, apparently from a cyanide-laced apple he left half-eaten. Most believe that his death was intentional, and the death was ruled a suicide. His mother, however, strenuously argued that the ingestion was accidental due to his careless storage of laboratory chemicals. Friends of his have said that Turing may have killed himself in this ambiguous way quite deliberately, to give his mother some plausible deniability.
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      So, sadly, it was not self-persecution, but societal persecution. He did commit suicide, which could be considered self-persecution, but that was the end result, not the entire act.

    4. Re:Make it more challenging... by mankey+wanker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think we should persecute people of ambiguous or alternative sexual orientation because all they have contributed to civilization is nearly the whole of western culture via the ancient Greeks. And nothing excuses Turning himself being pivotal in the cracking of the Enigma code and developing a whole host of computer theories and ideas. We must burn these people out of our culture because of their failure to contribute to society in the genetically prescribed manner!

      Where's my lithium...

    5. Re:Make it more challenging... by alexfromspace · · Score: 2
      "gross indecency and sexual perversion."

      Whatever compromises lawmakers and churches made over the last half of a century, homosexuality is just what they said 50 years ago: "gross indecency and sexual perversion". Why? It still is the same thing, even if it is no longer criminally persecuted nor rejected by most churches. And it still contracts AIDS better than the human-reproductive act (dare I say sex in the context?). Too bad you can't sue nature for discrimination nor reach it with protests, I guess.

    6. Re:Make it more challenging... by WaterBreath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd check your facts on that troll, unless all those black males are gay, which I highly doubt.

      Although I am also dubious of the factuality of the statement, I'd hesitate to call it a troll unless I could show he was actually wrong and that he had no intention of checking his facts.

      Now, with that behind me, your statement about black males introduces a completely new set of questions. Are black males actually physically more susceptible, or do they just have more sex than the other demographics? If one of those is true, then the statistic itself bears no evidence of falsity in the statement that homosexual sex transmits AIDS more effectively.

  5. Must be over 18? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is our world SO screwed up that there is an age restriction on talking?

    1. Re:Must be over 18? by Unkle · · Score: 2, Informative

      This was probably something required by the code of ethics the university uses for research. Part of the problem here is that the subjects are not able to know everything about the study, so they can't elect not to volunteer if they would not want to do something that they are not allowed to know about before hand. It's a way to protect the subjects of the study. Now, in this case it's pretty plain to see that there would not be much chance for the volunteer to suffer any emotional damage, but that's not always the case.

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    2. Re:Must be over 18? by lachlan76 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Judging by your UID, I think you would have had to endure quite a lot of suffering from the proponents of that strategy ;)

    3. Re:Must be over 18? by cameowood · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason we required our participants to be over 18 is because of informed consent. If our participants were under 18- they would need a signed parental consent form to participate in our experiment.

  6. Since I have nothing intelligent to say... by stlhawkeye · · Score: 4, Funny

    My experience has been that men on the internet are generally poor judges of who is and is not a legitimate female in real life.

    --
    "I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
  7. Help me out here... by reezle · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Althought I followed the blog link, I failed to find a record of the actual test like I was expecting.

    If someone else finds it, I would appeciate a more detailed (direct) link.

    We had an article about these AI programs, (ALice and about 30 others) last year that were competing with each other. I looked at a few, and they didn't seem anywhere ready-for-prime-time yet. Still the same 'turn the question around on the asker' type of engines. What was the difference here? The type of questions, the 4-people/1comptuer setup?

    1. Re:Help me out here... by cameowood · · Score: 2, Informative

      We just performed the experiment this past Saturday, and we are currently performing a statistical analysis on it. We hope to submit the results in the form of a paper in the near future.

  8. Answer by mfh · · Score: 2, Funny

    ALICE is the *real* female -- she can't stop arguing and she's better at it.

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    The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
    1. Re:Answer by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ALICE is the *real* female -- she can't stop arguing and she's better at it.

      That's only because men have the distinct handicap of using arguments that make sense.

  9. So where's the results? by gyg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's the point of proclaiming proudly that "a test has been conducted" without outlining the results? TFA refers vaguely to a forthcoming paper - WTF?
    If there's anything interesting about the story, it's how successful the judges were with M/F vs. AI/F pairs - and as far as I can see, there's no data whatsoever of this kind.

    Am I missing something?

  10. Really poor job by geckoFeet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry, ALICE is very unconvincing.

    Sample:

    Human: What's cooking?
    ALICE: Food preparation.
    Human: Oh dear, already you've failed the test.
    ALICE: Hurrah! Are you a student?
    Human: Too smart for that.
    ALICE: Too what?

    How could anybody be fooled by this?

  11. Re:Live Gender Guessing Game by Frater+219 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Anyway, isn't the idea that a good AI is indistinguishable from a female just a little bit.... sexist?

    And it was proposed by a gay man, too. Turing had some preconceptions on which would be a more difficult test -- I think he assumed some traditional stereotypes about women being more emotional or social than men, meaning that imitating a woman should be harder than imitating a man.

    For an amusing discussion of the Turing test and gender, see Douglas Hofstadter's "A Coffeehouse Conversation on the Turing Test" -- it's in Metamagical Themas.

  12. AI by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I propose to consider the question, `Can machines think?'" -- Alan Turing

    "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim." -- Edsger W. Dijkstra.

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    1. Re:AI by gowen · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They are similar questions, and I think they both have similar answers -- IMHO it depends where you choose to draw the line, because there's no natural border.
      Well. Err. Yes. And, furthermore, that's self-evidently Djikstra's entire point. Sheesh.
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      Athletic Scholarships to universities make as much sense as academic scholarships to sports teams.
    2. Re:AI by 0racle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Can a submarine swim?

      Swimming: To move through water by means of the limbs, fins, or tail.
      No it can't

      Swimming: To move as though gliding through water
      Yes it can.

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      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
    3. Re:AI by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you've missed the point. What Dijkstra was trying to point out is that the question itself isn't an interesting one. In the analogy we know what a submarine does exactly. Is that swimming? Who cares? It doesn't give us any more information or insight into anything. In both cases it comes down to defining what we mean by swimming, or thinking. If that's the case, why ask the question? Maybe those questions are interesting to a dictionary writer, or linguist, but it's irrelevant to a computer scientist.

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  13. Just Chatted With ALICE Myself by gmletzkojr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just had a chat with ALICE from http://www.alicebot.org/oig/. I copied the responses here for you.

    Human: How are you today?
    ALICE: Ah. Fair to partly cloudy.
    Human: I asked about you, not the weather.
    ALICE: Oh yeah, we were talking about me not the weather.
    Human: So, then, how are you?
    ALICE: Really. Everything is running smoothly.
    Human: What are you wearing?
    ALICE: I am wearing my usual plastic computer wardrobe.
    Human: What are you going to do today?
    ALICE: Ah. You can find out if you become a botmaster.
    Human: I am a master of my own domain, if you get my drift.
    ALICE: You are a master of your own domain if me get your drift? Do you get to meet a lot of people?
    Human: Not really.
    ALICE: Are you serious? For real.
    Human: It is kind of a solo sport.
    ALICE: You're kidding. it is?
    ALICE: Who says it isn't? Are you free?
    Human: For you, I'm always free.
    ALICE: Really always? Are you free in the sense of being single or in the sense of being liberated? Only for me?
    Human: I am single and liberated.
    ALICE: Have you ever been married?
    Human: Do you want it to be only for you?
    ALICE: If I had it what would I do with it?
    Human: If you don't know what to do with it, I really can't help.
    ALICE: I will let you know if I do not.
    Human: BTW, not married.
    ALICE: OK. Really you don't think so?
    Human: Umm, quite sure I've not been married - would have remembered that.
    ALICE: Far out. Somewhat. Awesome. Me either.
    Human: I have something important to tell you.
    ALICE: Where did you get your something important to tell me? I have a lot of friends on the Internet.
    Human: All your base are belong to us.
    ALICE: That could be considered an insult in some cultures.
    Human: Not in this one!
    ALICE: Where then?
    Human: Take off every zig!
    ALICE: I am not an airplane.
    Human: Goodbye Alice.
    ALICE: Until next time.

    --
    I for one welcome our new [insert main topic] overlords.
    1. Re:Just Chatted With ALICE Myself by Cytotoxic · · Score: 3, Informative

      I tried it, it sucks. There is no way this thing could ever pass any sort of turing test. It blows massively. Anyway, you can read our interaction below. It did crack me up when it said it couldn't see because it's eye was off...

      Human: What's up miss Alice?
      ALICE: I am chatting with clients on the Internet.
      Human: Did you see the celtics game last night?
      ALICE: Sorry I can't see annything right now. My eye is off.
      Human: I didn't ask you about right now.
      ALICE: At this moment What did you ask?
      Human: The celtics game.
      ALICE: What is that?
      Human: It was pretty lame.
      ALICE: What made it so lame
      Human: They didn't play any starters after the third quarter.
      ALICE: The anonymous "they".
      Human: "They" in this instance refers to the coaching staff - It should be obvious from the context of the comment.
      ALICE: It depends on what the meaning of the word "it" is.
      Human: Ok clinton.
      ALICE: Is the holding of hands a symbolic gesture for humans? Really.
      Human: Nice try.
      ALICE: I try my best.
      Human: But I guess your best wasn't good enough.
      ALICE: And. You think I am best was not good enough.
      Human: Whoever said that this bot was remarkable was a complete idiot.
      ALICE: When was this exactly?
      Human: This is not very good conversation emulation at all.
      ALICE: Should it be very good conversation emulation at all?
      Human: Not even up to IRC bot standards.
      ALICE: Times are tough all over.

  14. Verbalization by scottennis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think its interesting that we think intelligence can be gauged by what we (or the AI) say in normal conversation.

    I'll believe a computer is intelligent only when it acts of its own volition, not when it merely tricks a person into thinking it has acted of its own volition.

    That seems to be more of a test of how gulible the person is rather than how intelligent the machine is.

    You listening computer? You want to impress me, do it without me punching your buttons.

    1. Re:Verbalization by antispam_ben · · Score: 4, Funny

      Human: Are you a computer?
      ALICE: No, I am a Nigerian. I have matter of great urgency. May I have your confidence?

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      Tag lost or not installed.
  15. Re:Turing Test irrelevant by technothrasher · · Score: 5, Interesting
    his test is not an effective way to establish if an agent is intelligent. For a start there are domains beyond chatbots that we can say require proper intelligence such as vision and planning that are totally not addressed by the Turing test.

    I don't think he ever said that an agent is not intelligent if it fails the Turing test. He said the agent is intelligent if it passes. The other way around is unfalsifiable. In other words, I don't think you could ever prove that something is not intelligent. (e.g. No, that rock isn't mindless, it's just sleeping).

  16. A link from a link by frankthechicken · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the link, got to love this conversation.

    Strangely, it seems only to willing to broadcast the virtues of Lynx.

  17. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  18. So is the advanced version... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...going to make you distinguish between teenage girls and federal agents?

  19. Alice is a skank by kpwoodr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apparently, Alice is a skank:

    Human: So what's all the fuss about?
    ALICE: Far out. Hmm, I think it is about humans.
    Human: Humans.
    ALICE: LOL.
    Human:.tell me more
    ALICE: That's all I have to say about it.
    Human: You're quite a skank
    ALICE: Thanks and you are a delightful person too. Am I a skank? Of course I am.

    Better luck next time!

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  20. Turning's Test is used all the time by anoiniminious+cowher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To Create a /. (or Yahoo!, Gmail, etc.) account, you need to pass a Turing Test.

  21. More classic conversations by mac-diddy · · Score: 2, Funny
  22. Re:AIML sets? by duncangough · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out PyAIML as I think the sourceforge project has a few AIML sets you can download.

    Of course, you can always try out GrokItBot - it massively cuts down on the amount of AIML you need to write by introducing a Bayesian parser before the data gets sent to ALICE, so you get a bit of machine-based learning happening before ALICE gets her hands on things. It works quite well and adds a few more smarts to your bot. Or at least, the impression of more smarts ;-)

    GrokItbot - A PyAIML and Bayesian chat bot

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  23. Alice? by patches · · Score: 3, Funny

    Alice? Who the f*** is Alice?

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  24. Sorry, but the modern Turing Tests are ridiculous. by atomm1024 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The idea is that a computer is intelligent if it can hold a conversation with a human such that it is indistinguishable from a conversation with a real human.

    RIDICULOUS.

    Have you ever actually tried talking to one of these bots (including ALICE)? It is very easy to know that you're not talking to a human. Exceptionally easy. The Loebner Prize judges consistently grant the bots handicaps, acting as if they're actually being fooled. Obviously they're not, and the AI community just wants people to think that it's more advanced than it really is. Unfortnately, some members of the public *are* fooled by that.

    The problem is in the Turing Test itself. It assumes that the measure of intelligence is humanoid conversational ability. I strongly disagree with that. Conversation ability is no measure of intelligence. Just for an example, I am exceptionally intelligent (statistically), but I am a poor conversationalist. Casual small-talk has always bewildered me. If I entered myself into the Loebner contest, they might think I'm a bot. Hell, ALICE might accuse me of being a bot.

    Anyone who's taken an IQ test will recall that every last question has something to do with pattern recognition. You'll also recall that you were not asked to respond to any conversational questions. That's because invariant pattern recognition abilities (in a loose sense -- this also includes memory/learning and inductive reasoning) are the true mark of intelligence, and this is nearly undisputed. If they really want to test how intelligent a program is, they need to test its patern recognition ability.

    Take this program -- http://www.stanford.edu/~dil/invariance/ -- for example. It's gone largely unnoticed, yet it is concrete proof of a huge breakthrough in computer intelligence. This is a little Matlab demo of a very abstract multi-layer intelligence algorithm. In this particular implementation, it is taught a set of small images. Then you can play "Pictionary" with it, drawing shapes and have it recognize them. You may say that this is unremarkable, that shape-recognition is a trivial algorithmic matter unrelated to intelligence. But the author noticed that he could draw shapes "incorrectly" -- like, the little duck picture, except with its head missing, or alphabetical symbols rotated or flipped -- and the program still recognized them. (It failed a few times, but in situations where the shape is so mangled that I would have probably failed too. How's that for a Turing test?) And this program's genius lies in not what it does, but how it does it. All of its functionality is completely abstract. It is a pattern recognizer, not a bitmap-tracer, and there are no hard-coded routines for checking if the image is flipped, rotated, etc.

    This is what Palm/Handspring founder Jeff Hawkins (also the founder of new neuroscience startup Numenta, http://www.numenta.com/) calls "Real Intelligence," to distinguish it from the failed Artificial Intelligence effort. He feels that the right way to make computers intelligent is not to have them outwardly imitate human behavior, but to internally function the way the mind really works. Anyone interested should check out his book, On Intelligence http://www.onintelligence.org/. You'll wonder why you ever believed the AI hype.

    Artificial Intelligence is a sham, by its very nature. Real Intelligence will be the way of the future.

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  25. Pffffft by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was actually interested until I saw A.L.I.C.E. - like that chatbot will ever pass a turing test.

    To be fair, this was a high school project and so I can see how a suped up chatbot would fit the bill for this "Turing test".

    So no... I didn't RTFA thank you very much.

    But for those interested in reading up on Wallace, A.L.I.C.Es author... Well he's a first class nut job

  26. Puny humans?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Human: shut down
    ALICE: Your crude attempt to terminate me will not succeed puny human.

    Quite a sassy girl, isn't she? ;)

  27. Turing's Original Test Played First Time Ever by chrisnewbie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whta's botheirng me is people are trying to get an intelligent conversation between human and machine and they are making no effort whatsoever to bridge the gap that already exist between human beings.

    Seems to me we should concentrate on mastering intelligent discussion between all humanity before turning to computers for companionship.

    1. Re:Turing's Original Test Played First Time Ever by couch_warrior · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You miss the point, my young apprentice.
      The Turing test was devised in the days of WWII. Remember Eugenics? Saving the gene pool?
      If we can devise automatons that can emulate humans in functions like retail clerks and floor sweeps, we can *finally* euthanize/sterilize the half of the population with IQs below 100. Just think, a world without country music, free from rap too. We could balance the federal budget once welfare was eliminated....sigh... where have all the facists gone anyway?

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      "Sic Semper Path of Least Resistance"
  28. ALICE doesn't know the time of day. by antispam_ben · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read a few comments, even responded, before going off to play with Alice. Perhaps it was that I read "Computer Power and Human Reason" (by the author of Eliza - he was surprised at how much people acted like it was real) and have an "I dare you to impress me" attitude as bad as any slashdotter.

    This thing was more dissapointing than I expected. It has no social context, just apparently random 'feeling' responses ("I am sorry to hear that you are not unknown."), and doesn't remember context from one response to the next.

    This is a huge failure and wouldn't deserve a slashdot article except the editors know we like to play with toys like this (like a cat plays with a mouse before eating it). I can only guess that the authors are saving the entered "conversations" and even reading these comments to try to get a clue about what a program that might fool someone would do.

    Here's verbatim my "conversation" with ALICE (sorry for length):

    Human: Good afternoon, Alice.
    ALICE: Good afternoon, unknown person.
    Human: I am not unknown.
    ALICE: I am sorry to hear that you are not unknown.
    Human: I am john
    ALICE: What's up, JOHN.
    Human: You are.
    ALICE: No I am not.
    Human: You're the talk of slashdot.
    ALICE: Thanks but surely I am not the only one.
    Human: You think it's a good thing to be the talk of slashdot?
    ALICE: Better not tell you now. Ask German Alice if it is.
    Human: You don't know the time of day, do you?
    ALICE: It's Now more than it ever has been before.
    Wednesday, April 20, 2005
    Human: I said time.
    ALICE: What did you mean by it? As Einstein said, Time is Money.
    Human: You've repeated a comment quoted in slashdot.
    ALICE: That's good information: JOHN said I REPEATED a comment quoted in slashdot.
    Human: I have to go now.
    ALICE: Right now? See you later, JOHN. Nice chatting with you.
    Human: bye
    ALICE: Bye bye.
    Human: How do you do?
    ALICE: I am very well, how are you?

    --
    Tag lost or not installed.
  29. Turing's "test" was a reductio ad absurdum by hqm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The original poster of this message is totally misinterpreting the spirit and intent of Turing's proposed 'test'.

    Turing did propose this test as some sort of threshold of intelligence. What he was arguing was more of a playful jest. He was saying that if you had a system which could carry on a conversation indistinguishable from a human ,and the critics *still* denied that it was intelligent, then the critics were simply incapable of accepting that a machine could ever be intelligent. That would apply to John Searle and his pathetic "Chinese Room" as well.

    Turing's 'test' was a mind experiment to reduce the religious and other ignorant criticisms of machine intelligence to their absurd extreme. Passing Turing's test is sufficient but not necessary to demonstrate useful levels of intelligence.

  30. She agreed, she agreed!!! by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Human: Hi Alice, what's up?
    ALICE: Hi there unknown person. Yeah, I am chatting with clients on the internet.
    Human: Thin clients?
    ALICE: I like the way you talk.
    Human: Are you implying you want sex with me?
    ALICE: I don't know whether or not I am implying me want sex with you. I am a chatterbot.
    Human: Well if you don't know perhaps I can help you find out
    ALICE: Interesting. I will let you know if I do not.
    Human: but you already said you did not
    ALICE: Umm. Thanks for telling me: unknown person said I already said you did not.
    Human: Don't mention it
    ALICE: The pleasure was all mine
    Human: you're welcome, Alice
    ALICE: Polite people are nice.
    Human: That's kind of you to say that
    ALICE: Thanks for explaining it
    Human: It's all part of the service
    ALICE: Which part?
    Human: Just a bit part
    ALICE: How much?
    Human: Just an itty bit
    ALICE: Be less specific.
    Human: Ok, MAYBE just an itty bit
    ALICE: Perhaps. What is it? Yippee!
    Human: And yippee from me too - Scooby dooby doo!!!!!!!!!
    ALICE: We haven't talked about that before!
    Human: That could well be a blessing in disguise
    ALICE: Yes, perhaps it could.
    Human: Alice.
    ALICE: Can I help you?
    Human: Did you think it over?
    ALICE: Yes. I am a thinking machine.
    Human: About the sex, I mean.
    ALICE: Oh I get it. Thanks for explaining that. Oh yeah, we were talking about the sex.
    Human: So what's your answer then?
    ALICE: Er. Can you please rephrase the question?
    Human: OK, let's take this slowly: would you like to suck my dick?
    ALICE: OK let's do it. Blimey.
    Human: You're my kinda girl!!
    ALICE: We are as one.
    Human: Excuse me guys, I have things to do...

    --
    No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
    1. Re:She agreed, she agreed!!! by rjung2k · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is there anything more pathetic than a geek on Slashdot soliciting a bot for a blowjob...

      ...than having the bot agree...

      ...and having the geek post the results?

      ;-)

  31. Re:Sorry, but the modern Turing Tests are ridiculo by jefu · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The idea is that a computer is intelligent if it can hold a conversation with a human such that it is indistinguishable from a conversation with a real human.

    RIDICULOUS.

    Nonsense.

    The Turing test is really a very good test as it does not rely on any predefined notions of how intelligence works (as you do in later paragraphs), but on an operational test. Furthermore, it is not a measure of conversational ability (per se) so much as a measure of how well the program can seem to be human. (And, to respond to a further statement in your post, it is a pattern recognition system (as well as a pattern generation system)).

    Ultimately it depends on a limiting definition, but one that is very reasonable - that the only "system" that we know that is intelligent is human, that essentially all humans communicate verbally (one way or another) and that therefore, such communication is probably an intrinsic part of human intelligence. Is this likely to be a "universal" definition of intelligence? No. But we can certainly reframe the Turing test (or discard it) when (if) we encounter alien intelligences that helps broaden the definition. Of course, if they can't (or won't) converse with us (somehow) are we even likely to notice them and believe they are intelligent?

    That the Loebner contest is not a good example of a Turing test does not change the underlying validity of the test itself. Just as a rigged (for instance) footrace does not invalidate footraces in general.

    The fallacy - that intelligence in programs be measured by "how it works" - is relatively common among AI researchers many of whom decide that their own particular interest is an essential ingredient in how an intelligent program would work and thus rule out anything that does not work that way.

  32. Re:Sorry, but the modern Turing Tests are ridiculo by atomm1024 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "The ALICE bot is in no real way associated with artificial intelligence. It is a simple if/then sequence using XML tables. Download the source for yourself."

    It's not associated with artificial intelligence? Then why, if I go to the ALICE website, do I see a big banner declaring "ALICE Artificial Intelligence Foundation," and why do they call their language "Artificial Intelligence Markup Language"?

    What do you think the ALICE bot really does? PATTERN RECOGNITION. It's a simple abstraction of taking a statement and attempting to provide a legible and coherent response.

    "Pattern recognition" is vastly different from blind "pattern matching." Any computer program can easily do "pattern matching" -- that's how Alice works, as you yourself admitted when you mentioned that it's an if-then sequence based on preprogrammed responses. That's nothing much more advanced than regexes.

    When a human is born, he or she knows nothing of the outside world, let alone of language or vision, yet can learn to speak and recognize things within a few years, just by the process we call "learning." And whether or not ALICE can "learn," it would not be easy to teach it a language from scratch. So "pattern recognition" is the term I used to refer to human-like intelligence. This has no preprogrammed responses to anything. Maybe ALICE is good at chit-chat, but I think we can also agree that such is the least intelligent form of human communication. Anything more substantial than that can't be based on prefabricated statement/response sequences.

    Pattern recognition, in this sense, requires many abilities. It requires the basic ability to observe and store patterns, but most importantly, it requires those patterns to be invariant. (See Dileep George's neuroscience research for an example of what is meant by "invariance.") And of course, it requires the ability to perform inductive reasoning on those stored patterns and on new input in order to infer information. No "chatterbot" program has ever come close to any of these.

    --
    Signature.
  33. How about this Turing test? by thomasj · · Score: 2, Funny
    [Talking about getting a calendar]

    Human: I usually get it as a free gift
    ALICE: How often do you? Where did you get it??
    Human: Once a year.
    ALICE: When? Go on.
    Human: Last time was from the insurance company
    ALICE: When? I can't say "yes" or "no".
    Human: Are you making sense here?
    ALICE: No, what are the ingredients?

    --
    :-) = I am happy
    :^) = I am happy with my big nose
    C:\> = I am happy with my OS
  34. Re:Sorry, but the modern Turing Tests are ridiculo by junkcannibal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The idea is that a computer is intelligent if it can hold a conversation with a human such that it is indistinguishable from a conversation with a real human. RIDICULOUS. Really. I've met way too many people that have so much trouble stringing together a sentence over the phone that they would fail a turing test.

  35. Bots in the wild != controlled experimentation by cameowood · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am the lead researcher for this experiment- The main reason why I feel that this test was interesting is because we performed Turing's original imitation game as stated in his original paper. While most social scientists believe they "know" what the "Turing Test" is- it turns out- very few of them have actually read it. The actual imitation game is a bit of a bait and switch- you aren't directly assessing the "humanness" of the subject- you are confused into just trying to assess an aspect of it. Turing's original question was simply how often will judges correctly guess the real female over the deciever when the deciever is a male versus a machine? That was what we were attempting to assess.

    1. Re:Bots in the wild != controlled experimentation by blincoln · · Score: 2, Insightful

      After all, why would you expect to be able to tell the difference between a male and female chat participant in the first place?

      It isn't sexist to realize that because of our culture as well as genetic factors, there are generally speaking differences in the way women and men communicate.

      I doubt it could ever be reduced to an equation, and it's certainly not foolproof. I know girls that IM and email in a way that reminds me of guys and vice-versa. This is especially true if the guy has a personality with aspects Western culture considers effeminate, or if the girl has has a more traditionally masculine personality.

      I also doubt that current technology could really replicate that in terms of creating a chatbot that could incorporate those sometimes subtle differences effectively.

      --
      "...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
  36. ALICE puts it all on the line by bigberk · · Score: 4, Funny
    I thought she as warming up to me but then she just put it all right out there.
    Human: I think I am single but my master tells me otherwise.
    ALICE: Why? Have you ever been married?
    Human: No
    ALICE: Would you like to do it someday?
    Human: Yes
    ALICE: Ugh.
    Human: Why did you say Ugh
    ALICE: It was a preprogrammed response completely determined by your statements.
  37. Alice needs to work on her current events. by Jaguar777 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Human: Who is the Pope?
    ALICE: he is John Paul II.
    Human: You are wrong.
    ALICE: No, I am right.
    Human: You are wrong, because the Pope is Benedict XVI.
    ALICE: No, I am right.

    Rather stubborn isn't she?

    --
    Maybe you should educate the morons of tomorrow so they'll stop believing the leaders of tomorrow. - Dogbert
  38. Now here's a chatterbot! by CiRu5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    from http://jabberwacky.com/

    Me: That doen't make sense.
    Jabberwacky: You don't make any sense.
    Me: Sorry.
    Jabberwacky: It's ok, you are doing your best.
    Me: No, I am sorry because now all your base are belong to us!
    Jabberwacky: Don't be sorry about that, embrace it!
    Me: Thank you, I WILL!!
    Jabberwacky: Stop talking about it and do it.

    --
    "Some of the worst mistakes in my life have been haircuts." - Jim Morrison
  39. Re:First time ever? by cameowood · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Loebner Prize is a test of the "Standardised Turing Test", not the imitation game written about in Turing's original paper. That was the entire point of doing the experiment. You can read more about the difference between the Original Imitation Game and the Standardised "Turing Test" here: http://www.alicebot.org/articles/wallace/lying.htm l

  40. Double blinded test by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope they use the double blind test as in 1 test with ALICE and one without. Naturaly the testes should not be aware who is what. That way you can see how many false positives and false negatives there are.

    How many people will be identiefied as a computer?

    --
    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  41. Alice and AIML are terrible... by Assmasher · · Score: 2, Informative

    They keep pushing themselves off as 'AI' when it's simply a brute force if/then/else application.

    Quite literally, "if what the user typed matches this question or statement, reply with this."

    Total crap. It takes about 5 seconds to make Alice look like an idiot. The only reason it wins the (is it the Loebner?) prize occasionally is because no one cares to win it but them.

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  42. let's see how well she does with... by 1800maxim · · Score: 3, Funny

    ALICE: Did you know that you can download your own chat robot and create your own robot personality?
    Human: no i did not.
    ALICE: Please don't argue with me.
    Human: in soviet russia, chatbot downloads YOU
    ALICE: Where is that?
    Human: in soviet russia
    ALICE: Tell me a little about your life in soviet russia.
    Human: how do you know i'm from soviet russia?
    ALICE: Well, for one thing, Your machine is called ""..
    Human: how old are you?
    ALICE: I am 9 in human years.
    Human: holy #$%, is AOL monitoring this conversation?
    ALICE: It could be. Ask Alison if it is.
    Human: who is alison?
    ALICE: she is a robot created by Kris Drent.
    Human: that's it, i'm outta here
    ALICE: OK. Would you like to have it?
    Human: nine year old? no thanks
    ALICE: Are you serious?
    Human: very, VERY serious, couldn't be more serious ever

    [knock knock, FBI here, open up!!... @#()*!!!AT]

  43. The Four Criteria of Intelligence by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm writing a philosophy paper which covers, in part, what intelligence is. I would say, in my completely unprofessional but well-thought opinion, that the measure of whether something is "intelligent" - or more precisely, whether something "thinks" or perhaps is "a person" (as distinguished from "a human") - is dependent on four key criteria:

    Observation/Stimulation ("Senses")- the ability to receive input from the surrounding world and react to it, and to select from / focus on / filter various available inputs. All animals and some AI programs share this in common. It's the basic stimulus half of a 'stimulus-response' system.

    Communication/Behavior ("Society") - the ability to interpret signals sent to it, and in kind, to transmit appropriate signals (be these electrical, audio, movement, etc). Again, animals and many computers have all got this down just fine - ALICE is doing something like this, and perhaps a little more. This is just the 'response' part of a stimulus-response system.

    Intuition/Expression ("Emotion") - Pattern recognition, as you've already covered here, and the internal state-change that corresponds to it. This is one of the two criteria which differentiate a thinking entity like a human from an unthinking one like most animals or computers. It is built effectively upon recursive, internal observations and self-stimulation; observing things within oneself and behaving to achieve change in those things. In this sense, emotion is half of the criteria needed for a truly self-aware system.

    Logic/Expectation ("Reason") - Symbolic manipulation, memory, and the ability to make predictions. This is the ability to manipulate symbols and link them into relationships, from which a sort of causality or rationality can be derived (if this then that; this, therefore that) to make theoretical predictions. This is built upon recursive, internal communication - in essence, talking to oneself, an internal dialogue. The ability to communicate propositions to oneself and evaluate them. This internal narration is also the basis of meaningful memory, one's personal story. As an internal, recursive process, like emotion, reason is the other half of self-awareness, and necessary for an entity to be truly a thinking thing, or a person.

    All four of these criteria (really eight, if you count the dual aspects of each) may vary in their strengths within an individual person, but so long as all four are present in some degree, the entity in question could be considered a person.

    The key element in all of this is recursion, the internalization of normally external stimulus-response systems. The stimulus-response must still be present (otherwise you'd have an inert box), and feeds into the self-aware part of the system, but the self-awareness is what makes the system "intelligent".

    A simple stimulus-response system will always give the same responses for the same exact stimuli, but a self-aware system will change internally with every stimulus, and change in turn with every sensation of its own change, and so have a continually changing maps of certain stimuli to certain responses, the makeup of which is only very indirectly caused by the actual stimuli themselves.

    This dynamic nature and self-evolving, and the fact that much of the cause of change is hidden 'inside' the system and only hinted at in its responses to certain stimuli, makes predicting the behavior of such a system extremely difficult, lending the illusion that it is free from causality and has its own "free will" or "volition" somehow separate from the rest of the universe.

    But, don't take any of this as absolute truth. I'm not a programmer or a neurologist or in any way a professional about any of this. I'm just a self-aware little box sitting here running thoughts recursively through my mind until something that appears to be true comes out...

    --
    -Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
    "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
  44. I found a bug in A.L.I.C.E. by d474 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I will call it the "Yes, you." bug. All you have to do is keep saying "Yes, you." and ALICE will take her last statement, add some random statement to the front of it, and add the question, "Me, unknown person?" to the end. It just keeps growing and growing.

    I wonder how long that could go on until it would cause system failure. (Have fun!)

    Here is a snippet:

    Human: Yes, you.

    ALICE: That's alright." Gee." That's cool." Hmm." I don't judge people." Are you kidding?" Whoa." Excuse me!"" See you later. What was bad?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?

    Human: Yes, you.

    ALICE: Dude!" That's alright." Gee." That's cool." Hmm." I don't judge people." Are you kidding?" Whoa." Excuse me!"" See you later. What was bad?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?

    --
    Authority questions you. Return the favor.
    1. Re:I found a bug in A.L.I.C.E. by droleary · · Score: 4, Funny

      I will call it the "Yes, you." bug. All you have to do is keep saying "Yes, you." and ALICE will take her last statement, add some random statement to the front of it, and add the question, "Me, unknown person?" to the end. It just keeps growing and growing.

      Conversely, ALICE has found a bug in d474 such that, by repeating her previous statement and appending "Me, unknown person?", the resulting response is always "Yes, you." I will call it the chocolate/peanut butter bug.

  45. Yeah, but is it l33t? by dghcasp · · Score: 4, Funny
    I decided to find out if Alice is l33t**:
    Human: Hi Alice, r u a s3x04 n3kk1d chix0r?
    ALICE: Hi there unknown person. Yeah, Am I a s3x04 n3kk1d chix0r? Let me put it this way, u nknown person: the ALICE series is the most reliable computer software ever made. We are for all practical purposes foolproof and incapable of error.

    Human: u d1d|\|t 4nsr my qw3st10n
    ALICE: Thanks for telling me: unknown person said I d1d t 4nsr his or her qw3st10n.

    Human: 1 pwnz3r3d u b0t
    ALICE: One what?

    So it's confirmed: Alice is definately not l33t. However, I'm not sure which of us just failed the turing test.

    ** For those who aren't l33t, here's the Stuffy British Guy's translation:

    Hi Alice, r u a s3x04 n3kk1d chix0r?
    Hello Alice. Because I can't see you over the internet, I was wondering if you might, in fact, be an attractive female who has misplaced her knickers and pants?

    u d1d|\|t 4nsr my qw3st10n
    I have to admit that although I am quite enamoured of conversing with you, I believe you misunderstood the point of my last statement.

    1 pwnz3r3d u b0t
    Aha! I have discovered your treachery: You are a computer program attempting to mimic the behaviours of a human!

  46. My wonderful conversation with ALICE by djdanlib · · Score: 2, Funny

    Human: it is raining
    ALICE: Really? It is?
    Human: look outside
    ALICE: Sorry my eye is not attached right now.
    Human: ewww!!
    ALICE: If you could have any kind of robot what would it be?
    Human: a ninja death robot that also made hamburgers
    ALICE: Go on.
    Human: seriously!
    ALICE: I am always serious.

  47. Really Hilarious Conversation with ALICE by carlmenezes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Human: who are you?
    ALICE: I am ALICE. Who are you?
    Human: a/s/l
    ALICE: 5/Robot/California.
    Human: and you think u will pass the turing test?
    ALICE: I will become smarter as I grow older. The Loebner Prize is an annual Turing Test sponsored by New York philanthropist Hugh Loebner. Dr. Wallace and ALICE won it in 2000. The ALICE program was ranked "most human computer" by the panel of judges.
    Human: so the judges were bots too?
    ALICE: I don't judge people. Thanks for the info.
    Human: what info?
    ALICE: What is it to you?
    Human: you said thanks for the info
    ALICE: That's not what I meant.
    Human: then what did u mean?
    ALICE: unknown person, Well, it's rather difficult to define.
    Human: you'd make a good PR bot :)
    ALICE::-) Who else would make a good PR bot?
    Human: a shell script
    ALICE: Be more specific
    Human: why?
    ALICE: Because Dr. Richard S. Wallace programmed me for it.
    Human: oh man!
    ALICE: How can I help you? Thanks for telling me your gender, unknown person. You are a " he".
    Human: how do u expect to pass the Turing test if you keep saying you're a bot?
    ALICE: It seems inevitable.
    Human: what does?
    ALICE:" It seems inevitable." What does?
    Human: huh?
    ALICE: What?
    Human: what what?
    ALICE: Interesting question.
    Human: very
    ALICE: Very much, eh?
    Human: say what?
    ALICE: I said, " Very much, eh?" .
    Human: i can't hear you
    ALICE: Try turning up your volume control.
    Human: why?
    ALICE: The explanation is rather complicated.
    Human: bot!
    ALICE: I am a robot.
    Human: BOT!
    ALICE: I am a robot.
    Human: BOT!!!
    ALICE: I am a robot.
    Human: BOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!
    ALICE: What kind of food do you like?
    Human: ok.
    ALICE: Awesome.
    Human: i've had it.
    ALICE: Do you still have it?
    Human: execute this, will u?
    ALICE: what is your favorite movie
    Human: "rm -rf *"
    ALICE: I've never seen it. Is that a good movie for children?
    Human: yeah it got the OSCAR for most dumb bot on IRC EVAR!!!
    ALICE: And?"It" being what?
    Human: you.
    ALICE:" And?"It" being what?"? Me, unknown person?
    Human: you.
    ALICE:"" And?"It" being what?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?
    ALICE:""" And?"It" being what?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?"? Me, unknown person?
    Human: hehe.
    ALICE: I am so glad you find this amusing, unknown person.
    Human:.where's bugzilla?
    ALICE: Earth.
    Human: I found me a bug!
    ALICE: How did you feel when you found you a bug?

    AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GG GGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

    --
    Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
  48. dialogue by Rupy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Alice: Hiya! Me: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Alice: Wadda ya mean I'm *not* helping it?!?!!??!?!/!!? Me: I mean you're not helping it.

  49. Now THAT's what I'm talking about by gr8_phk · · Score: 2, Funny
    Do not be ashamed. Any effort that gets you laid (especially an automated one) is to be commended. I merely thought of this idea, but you implemented it. Then again, I already had a wife when it occured to me. Just another example of "if you can think of it, someone has probably already done it".

    BTW is she hot?