Slashdot Mirror


Hitchhiker's Guide Quandary Phase Starts May 3rd

MilenCent writes "Time to grab your towels once again! BBC Radio 4 is set to begin the Quandary Phase (that is, the fourth) of the radio version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on May 3, covering the events of So Long And Thanks For All The Fish. Once again you'll be able to listen to it on the web from Radio 4's site. There's a production diary on BBC Radio 4's website that discusses the Quandary and Quintessential Phases, which will each be four episodes and will deviate further from the books than the Tertiary Phase did (it may not end the same way it did in Mostly Harmless), as well as tie up loose ends from the first two phases. In other news, their illustrated version of the Hitchhiker's text game won a BAFTA! They also have an interview with the game's co-creator, Steve Meretzky, who also created Planetfall."

44 of 166 comments (clear)

  1. British radio stirkes again by Winckle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is worth my licence fee alone. fortuntely I also get 5 TV channels, 2 news channels, and more radio channels than I can count. Anyone who says commercial radio is better is just plain wrong.

    1. Re:British radio stirkes again by squarooticus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I prefer the situation in the States, in which I can choose to pay or not for programming depending on whether I want to watch it or not. Sometimes the payment is direct (e.g., HBO) and sometimes it's indirect (commercial advertising), but the key to me is choice.

      I don't like these all-or-nothing deals that charge me a flat rate when I want only a tiny fraction of what is offered. I mean, $300 is a year of NFL Sunday Ticket on DirecTV, a much greater volume (let alone percentage) of the programming of which I will enjoy than the BBC's offerings.

      --
      [ home ]
    2. Re:British radio stirkes again by datajack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not .. quote .. like that.

      The problem with advertising based revenue, or 'subscriber-choice' based revenue is simple .. everything revolves around the numbers.
      The 'experts' can happily say that show a will attract x million viewers because it fits into the same mould as another show that got a similar number of viewers, whereas with show b - which is a completely original affair, or a departure from the current norm - they have no idea, no frame of reference to say that it is going to make so many millions in revenue. Most companies will therefore stick with the same-old same-old tried and tested variants of Big Brother.
      Organisations like the BBC have extra freedom to experiment somewhat, and therefore do a lot of quality non-mainstream programmes (I presume that many of the ones I don't like have a quality an purity of their own) including a hell of a lot of excellent stuff that would very rarely even be attempted elsewhere - things like Monty Python, Dr. Who, Neverwhere, HHGTTG, Hustle, Red Dwarf, Blackadder, Little Britain to name but a few. They are encouraged to 'push the envelope' rather than chase ratings.
      Sure, there are some notable experiments in the ratings sector (Ultraviolet, 24 and BSG spring to mind), but these are relatively few and far between in comparison to the BBC's gems.

      I'm happy to shell out my hard-earned for a situation that engenders creative programming.

    3. Re:British radio stirkes again by Evil+Pete · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As a non-Brit (Aussie) I have to say I've always had a high opinion of the BBC, which just seems to get better. OK influenced a bit by recent events.

      Last night I watched the second installment of the BBC series "Grumpy Old Men" gotta be the funniest documentary I have ever seen. Brilliant idea, well executed. And inspired by these "grumpy old men" of my gen I have decided to be a boring and obnoxious old fart and have my own rant!

      OK. Last Sunday here the ABC (Oz's weak but welcome clone of the BBC) screened the BBC production of Supervolcano ... which I have to say is the best disaster movie I have seen ... an eerie doco that looks more like a blockbuster with nice interviews interlaced into the story that reminds me of "The Third World War" some years back. In some ways the interviews are the most disturbing parts. Well acted too.

      I remember hearing the original HHGTTG series that was broadcast on double-J locally. The ABC mainstream stations wouldn't touch it, so they gave it to the rock station. Somehow appropriate. Nice to listen again online.mmmmmm

      Hmmph. Ranted out. BTW, agree about Utlraviolet, nice idea ... was too busy at the time to follow it but interesting ... a war between intelligence agencies and vampires treating them as spies.

      Time to go back to sleep ..............

      --
      Bitter and proud of it.
  2. Let me be the first to say... by nganju · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Meretzky is one hoopy frood.

    --
    There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those that can keep their train of thought,
    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by subnomine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Steve Meretzky was cool enough to reply to a letter I sent him when I was in high school in the 80's. I loved his Infocom games. He is a hoopy frood.

    2. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In the 5th grade we had a class project to write a letter to our "hero," and see what the response was. Most people write to Michael J. Fox or Joe Montana and they mostly got form responses or a poster and such. I wrote to Steve Meretzky, and I was the first to get a response in my class, like a week later. Not only that, be he had handwritten the whole letter - I had only typed mine.

      Anyway, when I met him at GDC in 1999 or so, he didn't remember my letter. Bastard. I wish he was doing something more interesting these days than http://worldwinner.com/

      -If

      --
      Run a pencil-and-paper RPG campaign with your far-off friends: Gametable!
  3. In related news by WillAffleck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Paramount has announced they will do a radio version of the HHGTTG that is available only in mono (not stereo) and in which all of the jokes have been made unfunny.

    The series will be cancelled six weeks into its 13-week series due to Lack of Interest by listeners.

    .

    .

    Well, I wouldn't put it past them ...

    --
    Will in Seattle
  4. BAFTA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In case anyone's wondering, BAFTA is the The British Academy of Film and Television Arts. They give awards sort of like the Oscar, only without quite as poor a sense of judgement.

    I'm not sure why an 'academy of film and television arts' thinks they're particularly qualified to judge interactive media though...

  5. I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by zkelton · · Score: 2

    . . . to declare adding illustrations to a classic Infocom game blasphemy.

    --
    Your IP address is . . . oh, that's right, I don't know how to do that.
    1. Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Funny

      And the Pope says: "Classic Info-what's-it now?"

      Actually, he'd probably go along with you on that one. Sounds like quite the dogmatic traditionalist. You'd think he'd at least get a head-worn mic so that his assistant can quit wobbling that late-1980's handheld-on-a-gooseneck in his face. I mean, let's put the A/V back into into Ave Maria!

      --
      Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
    2. Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, man. That is so what we need. The SlashPope. A man dedicated to the leadership of geeks and other angsty teenagers. Now, some may say that Cowboy Neal is, but I disagree. We must vote on the SlashPope from the members of the community.

      The SlashPope would make it a lot easier - he would just tell you your opinion. No more confusion over whether to hate Microsoft, IBM, Java, etc. No more arguments over whether or not Google is evil. We can now speak as one unified voice - and this voice will be the SlashPope.

    3. Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 2, Funny

      The smoke from a burning webserver would work much better.

    4. Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by Mateito · · Score: 2, Interesting
      declare adding illustrations to a classic Infocom game blasphemy.

      The real blasphamy is adding in the ability to save the game. Part of the design philosphy behind Hitchhikers was to make it complete bastard of a game. Thus something you forgot to do (eg feed dog) screws you right up later in the game, with no chance of recover other than to start from scratch.

    5. Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . by The+SlashPope · · Score: 2, Funny
      Poof!

      Thine edicts are as follows:

      Microsoft: evil

      IBM: formerly evil, now somewhat holy

      Java: naughty, but not really evil

      Apple: currently good, but evil is brewing

      Adding graphics to Infocom interactive fiction: Satanic

  6. Surely you mean... by JeanPaulBob · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm a herring you insensitive cod!

    1. Re:Surely you mean... by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      DOH! I did but its easy to make typos when you have to type with fins

      --
      Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
      What truth?
      There is no dupe
  7. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by DeathFlame · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The books are short enough that you shouldn't have a problem grabbing the first book and reading it.

    Then you can form your own opinion about the series, as any answer you get will be someone elses opinion.

  8. Is it on BitTorrent yet? by timka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry, did I say something wrong? Pardon me for breathing which I never do anyway so I don't know why I bother to say it, Oh God I'm so depressed.

  9. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 4, Informative

    HHGG is really a parody of science fiction, or at least, science fiction written primarily for comdedic effect... or... really it's comedy that happens to be science fiction.

    Ok, listen, it isn't really any of those things. It's a deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable universe.

    And it has some good bits about robots and artificial inteligence.

    Oh, fark it, just read the damn thing. If you've are somewhat intelligent and a sense of humor, you like it.

  10. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >what is it about?

    RTFB
    --
    Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
  11. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by ari_j · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Adams is a literary genius. It took over 5 years of prodding before I actually sat down and read the book, but then I was hooked. That was only months ago. I strongly recommend you go buy a copy and read it. Get The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide, which should be on the bargain shelf in hardback (blue dust cover) at Barnes & Noble, probably in clearance/preparation for a reprint to coincide with increased demand from the movie. It should cost you $15 or less, and won't take more than two weeks to read all five books even if you're a slow reader like I am.

    I really can't describe it with words - I'm not the writer Adams was, clearly - but all I can say is that you owe it to yourself to read at least the first book. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I suspect you will.

    What's it about, though? Life, the universe, and everything about sums it up. Read it and find out.

  12. Re:-1 Troll by ari_j · · Score: 4, Funny
    Is it just me, or did the Hitchhiker sequels seem redundant and boring. I mean the humor was funny the first time around, but then it just got old and repetative.

    Your brilliant failure to use a question mark, inability to punctuate the colloquialism "I mean" appropriately, and decision to misspell "repetitive" belie a deeper appreciation for the English language than the average Hitchhiker's Guide fan possesses. Maybe that's why you didn't like the sequels.

  13. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Insightful
    HHGG is really a parody of science fiction, or at least, science fiction written primarily for comdedic effect... or... really it's comedy that happens to be science fiction.

    Ok, listen, it isn't really any of those things. It's a deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable universe.

    I'll have to pick it up. It sounds like Catch-22 (the humor and the deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable).

    --

    Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

  14. from the horse's mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From The New Zork Times, Spring 1984:

    4. Why don't your games have graphics?

    We have nothing against graphics per se. However, given the quality of graphics currently available on home computers, we would rather use that disk space for additional puzzles and richer descriptions. After all, as our famous "brain ad" says, the world's best graphics generator is your own imagination.

  15. I remember Planetfall by coolgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    enter disk

    --

    cat /dev/null >sig
  16. Best Quote from Interview by chill · · Score: 3, Informative

    What should I tell them about the Babel Fish puzzle?" He said, "What should you tell them? Tell them to f*** off!" So the puzzle stayed... and its very difficulty became a cult thing.

    Damn, that was a fun game that sucked up weeks of my life.

    -Charles

    --
    Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
  17. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by Criffer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Adams is the seventh Python. He wrote a number of the sketches for the original Monty Python series, as well as being a close friend of the Pythons themselves, having attended Cambridge together. Terry Jones even wrote Douglas' Starship Titanic novel for him.

    If you like Python, you will love h2g2.

  18. Torrents? by FinchWorld · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know I can listen to them legally live (Being a UK licence payer with t'internet and Digital radio), but I have a nasty habit of missing these things. Anyone know of a site that torrents all these?

    --
    "I may be full of crap about this game, and I may be wrong, and that's fine." -Jack Thompson
    1. Re:Torrents? by rich_r · · Score: 5, Informative

      Radio 4's 'listen again' feature will generally do it...

    2. Re:Torrents? by cortana · · Score: 2, Informative

      Combine with "mplayer -dumpstream", or Mimms .

    3. Re:Torrents? by Yer+Mom · · Score: 2, Informative
      alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc will almost certainly have them sooner or later - it did with the earlier series.

      I'm hoping someone has MP3s of the album versions - I have them on vinyl and cassette, but no working kit that'll play those formats :(

      --
      Never mind Spamassassin. When's Spammerassassin coming out?
  19. Just step on it a little more... by krelian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My thanks to the British people for paying for the wonderful thing that is the BBC. I think i'll take BBC radio 4 with me to a deserted island.
    Maybe they should put a paypal donate link on their homepage. I'll do anything to keep enjoying this forever.

  20. Greater deviation == good by Goobergunch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I liked the Tertiary Phase, but it was pretty much identical to Life, the Universe, and Everything and didn't really provide much new entertainment. I especially think that changing the ending to Mostly Harmless is a good idea. I was never comfortable with that (no spoilers here). And tying up loose ends are good as well....what did ever happen to Lintilla?

  21. Direct link for those listening live by Jaycatt · · Score: 4, Informative
    Last September, I used this method for listening to / archiving the tertiary phase:

    1) Grab RA WAV Recorder
    2) Open this location with it, at the appropriate time: BBC4 radio feed. Last September, it played Tuesdays at 10:30AM on the west coast (US).
    3) Convert WAV, if you want to (or put right to CD for the car).
    4) Profit (no, not really)

    Just tried it again, to make sure the address hadn't changed, and it still seems to work great!

    --
    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased. Thus we refute entropy" - Spider Robinson
    1. Re:Direct link for those listening live by Criffer · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those too lazy to figure out how to do the above.
      --------
      #!/bin/bash

      url=$1
      file=$2

      mplayer -dumpstream $url ; mencoder -oac pcm -o $file.pcm -noskip stream.dump ; oggenc -o $file.ogg $file.pcm
      --------

    2. Re:Direct link for those listening live by jridley · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or you can just use Net Transport (windows) or mplayer and grab the original stream directly. I grabbed the RM from the "listen again" page. As a bonus, they had a much higher quality link there than what ran over the live stream.
      Those with modern Palms can play the RM stream on those, or convert them to something else, but it's always nice to keep the original format.

  22. Lem by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like Adams, but I like Lem more. I guess it maybe because I read Lem earlier - it clicked better.

    If you like THGTTG you should read Stanislaw Lem's

    The Star Diaries - with the main character Ion Tihiy (Ion Quiet,) you will not regret it.

  23. Re:Quandary? by ZapoAM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maybe I'm missing some sublety of the Queen's English, but I thought the fourth in a series is the QUATERNARY and the fifth is the QUINARY.

    Please enlighten me if I'm missing the joke or something. They do identify the previous phase as the TERTIARY.


    You're missing the joke. A quandary is a "state of uncertainty or perplexity", and something that is quintessential "[represents] the perfect example of a class or quality." They're puns, in other words (ahaha).

  24. Re:Quandary? by displaced80 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Indeed. Also, being the fourth book of a trilogy does result in quite a quandry.

    --
    What's the frequency, Kenneth?
  25. If you thought the books unhoopy... by CarlJagt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...get yourself to your local public library and request to borrow the audio recording produced by the BBC back in the 70s. They will likely be cassettes (yes, dammit, cassettes) but if you're really lucky, it might be a copy of the original broadcast which, to nutters such as myself, would rank you way up there. While the books are funny-ish (for literary teehees you must admit), the radio play not only pre-dates them, but as a working, successful form of comedy, out performs them. About 27 minutes, per episode, its an easy format to enjoy on-demand. Wear headphones. Thumbs up. Win awards!

    1. Re:If you thought the books unhoopy... by GrahamCox · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's the collectors box-set CD edition. By the way, it's TWO extra CDs, as well as the COMPLETE radio series from the original master tapes.

  26. Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? by SamSim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, no, no. Listen to the first two radio series. Then read all the books. THEN listen to the new radio series.

    Disregarding my personal dislike of the new radio serious, radio-then-books seems like a much better order to do things in to me. Radio will leave gaps which your imagination can fill as well as providing a much more condensed, rich experience. The books will fill those gaps. The other way around is less entertaining. Also, this is the way they were originally presented.

  27. Re:QUATERNARY not QUANDARY by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is meant to be a pun -- they're quite popular in British humour ;-)