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Phishing for Credit

An anonymous reader writes "Two graduate students at Indiana University conducted a phishing study to determine how readily students will give up personal information if the phishing emails appear to come from close friends. Using only publicly available information, they sent out emails to students asking them to click a link that required username/password information. Needless to say, the study has generated lots of attention on campus. The student newspaper has the story and the researchers have created a blog where the participants can vent."

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  1. Dear Friend by fembots · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Friend,

    Can you please click on this link?

    Yours Truly Friendly,
    Close Friend

  2. Just watch by hsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They will be pressed with charges even though they had good intentions compared to hardly anyone getting caught with malicious intentions.

    1. Re:Just watch by j!mmy+v. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, naturally. The single fastest way to get people riled and after your ass is to make them look stupid. Publicly.

      Seriously, whatever happens, guys sharp enough to organize a phish study couldn't see it coming?

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    2. Re:Just watch by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Seriously, whatever happens, guys sharp enough to organize a phish study couldn't see it coming?
      ... in their defence, they could say that it should have been obvious - after all, their server wasn't located in the .ru tld.

      Lesson # 1: Don't do phishing research in Amerika, because In Amerika, phishing does YOU!

      Lesson # 2: If you're going to do the time, at least make it worth your while. Make sure you have a buyer for any info you get.

      Lesson # 3: Remember to have a good agent for the TV movie and book deal lined up BEFORE you start your "research"

      Lesson # 4: Before publishing your results, make sure you use the password info to get enough data to be able to blackmail everyone into silence. Uploading kiddie porn to their accounts is a good way to start. It's like the WMDs, "We'll find them, even if we have to put them there ourselves".

      Time will tell - someone will get it right eventually.

    3. Re:Just watch by s20451 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, he means this. The moral is, don't fuck with the justice department!

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    4. Re:Just watch by itistoday · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Reading the comments on their blog I stumbled upon this:

      I commend the actions of the two graduate students. For those of you here preaching, you might as well walk out and shoot the police officer who provides you with the security you need and desire. The problem is real and people need to be aware. I sit and read about student so sarcastically thanking these fellows for taking their identity, and aside from the sarcasm, everything they are saying is correct.

      One contributor states "I'm so sure this 'lesson' is going to make me think real hard the next time I really want to click on a random, suspicious looking, link."

      And he's completely correct. This sentence, spoken through the teeth of cynicism, simply sums up the success of this project. No injustice was committed and no wrongful actions have been taken.

      For those of you seeking legal action, your minds have more than likely been made and no amount of rebuttal will likely change your course. But I ask that you step back and take all measures of fully informing yourselves before your begin your battle. Go, speak to these gentlemen in person. Learn their truest intentions face to face. Written words can easily become harsh when the reader draws out what they want rather than what was intended.

      These men have taken drastic measures to exploit the faults of our system of knowledge. Great faults can only be overcome by even greater measures. If you take nothing from this experiment, understand that at the least, you can consider yourself informed.

      I do not attend IU or live in the city of Bloomington. I bring an unbiased opinion.
    5. Re:Just watch by rectifier · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is impossible. They got approval from the Human Subjects committe, and no real information was gained, They just verified if the user/pass was a valid IU id. Getting approval is no easy task (i used to administer phone surveys for an IU affiliate) and basically the blame now lies upon the HSC if any further action is taken

    6. Re:Just watch by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Publicly? Can you please give the URL to the page where they posted the names of the hapless victims? I'd like to see that.

    7. Re:Just watch by jemenake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They will be pressed with charges even though they had good intentions compared to hardly anyone getting caught with malicious intentions.
      If they wanted to protect themselves from possible legal hassle later, they could have just recorded how many click-throughs they got from the actual email. Then, they could have just had the actual web page at the address have something like "No, No, NO! Don't click on links asking you for your password!".

      I don't know why eBay doesn't do this already. They could send out emails to their users from bogus addresses, with links pointing to IP-only websites, etc. When the user actually clicked-through, it could be a page explaining all of the hints that they could have used to figure out that it was a phish. Even if they had people submit their login info, eBay couldn't be accused of tricking them out of information that ebay already had, right?

      On a slightly off-topic note, does anyone else here wonder if eBay is secretly "salting" real phishing sites with "marked" usernames? Like banks give robbers marked money, ebay could submit specially-marked username/password pairs to phish pages. These usernames wouldn't map to real users. Instead, they'd cause an alert to happen at eBay when someone used the account. eBay could pre-load the user with fake feedback... the whole shot. And "eBay honeypot", if you will.
  3. I see their point, but... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But some students are upset they were involved in the study without their consent or knowledge. Senior Rebecca Shakespeare did not even know she had been used as a sender until her friend notified her.

    "I was frustrated that I was hearing from a friend that my e-mail account was sending her things," Shakespeare said. "I had no idea where it was coming from. I was irritated because I was concerned that my home system was being abused."

    Shakespeare called University Information Technology Services, which said it could have been a virus and to not click on the link.

    "I've spent a lot of time keeping my (computer) secured," Shakespeare said. "I feel kind of used that it was the University that was making my friends think I had opened up my system to viruses."


    If that's really why they're concerned, well, maybe they'd be interested in knowing that the vast majority of virus/malware type things that send email in this fashion still don't originate from the computer of the person in question anyway...therefore, this whole rationale for worry is BS, since spoofed email can come from *anywhere*, and it's most often NOT your own computer.

    And - make no mistake, I really do see their point - but the IT resources belong to the university, and neither the university nor the researchers uses the person's account or any password or other credentials belonging to the person. It was simply a spoofed "from" address; nothing more. And if it's strictly "legal" for any random person to spoof a from address, it's just as legal for the purposes of research, whose findings may provide some level of insight on *protecting* people from malicious phishing.

    Now, I personally don't know whether any of this justifies doing the study in the way they did. That's a judgment call. If the university's IT organization proper is doing it, that's one thing, and I could see people being uncomfortable with the motivations. But grad students? I don't see any problem with that at all. In fact, they don't need anyone's permission to do what they did. However, in good faith, they did get the approval of the Human Subjects Committee.

    1. Re:I see their point, but... by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If that's really why they're concerned, well, maybe they'd be interested in knowing that the vast majority of virus/malware type things that send email in this fashion still don't originate from the computer of the person in question anyway...therefore, this whole rationale for worry is BS, since spoofed email can come from *anywhere*, and it's most often NOT your own computer.

      And - make no mistake, I really do see their point - but the IT resources belong to the university, and neither the university nor the researchers uses the person's account or any password or other credentials belonging to the person. It was simply a spoofed "from" address; nothing more. And if it's strictly "legal" for any random person to spoof a from address, it's just as legal for the purposes of research, whose findings may provide some level of insight on *protecting* people from malicious phishing.

      So, what's the anwser? Is there something I can send with my emails that verifies it came from me, something that can't be spoofed. Is there some algorithm out there that a SERVER can use, attach as part of the header, that the recipient can then verify the origin?

      Headers can be forged, that is old news. But what has been done about it? How can we trust any email?

      The whole web was designed to be anonymous and trusted at the same time, two things that can not exists together. Either the web must evolve to a system where the sender is known, like a phone call. Just imagine if phone calls worked the way email works. You spoof your phone number, call someone else, and get their credit card number. That would land a person in jail.

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    2. Re:I see their point, but... by Twanfox · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just to be known, if you have the proper equipment, you can indeed send out a spoofed Caller ID tag. The Caller ID tag is not guaronteed to be the exact number that the person is calling from. Large companies often mask their internal numbers with one main one that anyone receiving a call could use to reach the main operator. To do so for more nefarious purposes could be done, but the trick is that, in order to truely fool a person, they have to mimic a voice as well. This is what would typically trip up someone seeking to do phishing on that level, even though it is still done to acquire username/password information if you act official enough.

    3. Re:I see their point, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah. I was kind of suspicious when that banker who called me had a Nigerian accent. But he offered me so much money to help him, that I figured it was OK.

    4. Re:I see their point, but... by Foz · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a hell of a lot easier to spoof a Caller ID tag than you are leading on. I routinely get fax blasters calling me from bogus numbers like "987-654-3210" (yeah, like THAT isn't obvious, sheesh). Requires no specialized equipment at all on your part.

      You have places like http://www.spooftel.com/ and http://www.covertcall.com/ (tons more can be found by googling) that easily allow this (caveat, I haven't actually TRIED any of the above, they may be completely bogus).

      -- Gary F.

    5. Re:I see their point, but... by swv3752 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Secure email, PGP/GPG. Enigmail is an extension for Mozilla to use PGP to encrypt or just sign emails.

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    6. Re:I see their point, but... by Noonian · · Score: 2, Informative

      But grad students? I don't see any problem with that at all. In fact, they don't need anyone's permission to do what they did. However, in good faith, they did get the approval of the Human Subjects Committee.


      Actually, grad students are just as subject to IRB (Institute Research Board) human subjects approval as faculty. Any research involving human subjects and that is intended to ever be published must obtain IRB approval prior to conducting the research.

      As part of the IRB approval process, there are several criteria that the board looks for. The relevant criterion here is "informed consent." That is, are the participants given enough information about the study to make their own reasonable decisions about whether they wish to participate and consent to the research. For some studies, informed consent simply is not feasible (as in the case here). In such cases, the researchers must convince the IRB that a) the risk to the participants is not unreasonable, b) that there is a valid research contribution, c) that the deception is necessary to the study, and d) that the deception is revealed to the participants after the study and that the real reasons for the study are given, along with the opportunity for the participant to opt out from having his or her data included.

      It is the researcher's responsibility to make sure that the participants' rights are observed, and the IRB's responsibility to provide oversight to make sure the researchers are being responsible. That applies just as much to any researcher, whether an undergrad, a grad student, or a faculty member.

  4. Your slashdot session has expired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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    4. Re:Your slashdot session has expired by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2, Funny

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  5. forged headers by doormat · · Score: 5, Informative

    "I was frustrated that I was hearing from a friend that my e-mail account was sending her things,"

    Spam can come from anyone - its not too hard to forge the "FROM" line on an email. I'd hardly call it abuse of your account when spammers do it all the time.

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  6. I would imagine.. by breakbeatninja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That regardless of the intent, this sort of conduct is at the very least considered immoral and possibly bordering on illegality. It sounds like fraud to me. Simply posing as someone else to get certain private information seems innocent enough if the goal is to warn their fellow students of their vulnerability to social engineering, since the weakest link in computer security is the person. I would imagine they are going to feel some heat from the university at the very least for this, though.

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    1. Re:I would imagine.. by YankeeInExile · · Score: 3, Funny

      So, they magically went back in time to get approval from the ethics committee after getting caught? Shit -- fuck the write-up on the phishing -- describe the time machine!

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    2. Re:I would imagine.. by Pansy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Spoken like someone with a 6-digit UID :P

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  7. Re:5 bucks says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You lose. Their Ethics board cleared the experiment.

  8. Heh by Otter · · Score: 4, Funny
    [T]he researchers have created a blog where the participants can vent.

    This would make a nice change from the usual celebrity-in-trouble "apologies", where they go on the Tonight Show, bite their lips and look downcast and assure us "I'm very, deeply, truly sorry..."

    Instead we can get, "Jay, I have created a blog where people can vent."

  9. Study extension by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Two graduate students at Indiana University conducted a phishing study to determine how readily students will give up personal information

    After such a successful research on phishing, our two friends have decided to tackle a new study: test how much load e-commerce sites can handle, and how much money ATMs can usually deliver on any given day.

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  10. well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    people are stupid. film at 11.

  11. You would think... by demondawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That people would be a little more mature about this; viruses and other malicious software can (and often do) get sent from friends' email addresses (how many viruses are there that read someone's Outlook Address Book?) I think people are being a little naive.

  12. a license? by cryptoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This reminds me of old debate about requiring a license to use the internet. The pros being obvious: stupid/ignorant people would not be allowed to open viruses any longer, etc. The cons being that the internet is currently a free, open medium with few restrictions on what can be said/shown.

  13. Re:How legal is this... my spin on it all by demondawn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Graah! Why is the solution to everyone's problem with academia "fire the professor"? Your analogy to robbing a bank is a false one; nothing was actuallly stolen in this project. I think you, and a lot of other people, are overreacting.

  14. Well done... by Yaa+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's good to let students (future scientists, decicion makers etc...) feel what it means to be part of socially constructed fraud... Mainly because this will get worse and worse over time, you see how many database leaks with high profile personal data have taken place lately. People have to learn ways around all this identity theft, the only way is to confront them with the consequenses of this all.

  15. Ethics by Datasage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of the comments on the blog, complained that the study was unethical because the participants didnt know they were part of the study.

    My two reasons why I think it couldnt have been done any other way.

    1. This study focuses on deception and how people react when they are decived.

    2. Telling the participants they were a part of a study or asking them to be part of it, would effect the behavior of the participants and therefore changing the study results.

    As long as the information was not used in any illegal way. Then I don't find a problem with how this expirement was conducted. Yes it sucks to get phished, but its better to be fished by these guys than the hundreds of other phishers who are out there to turn phising into finacial gain.

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  16. In other news by Aumaden · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, Indiana University students found to be whiners.

  17. Hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    How'd you get your d to go backwards?

    Oh wait.

  18. Oh the brainsss! by atari2600 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I feel betrayed and offended"

    Someone posted that on the blog. I think he/she should feel foolish rather than feel betrayed. Or that should be read as "I am so fucking dumb that i cannot believe i did what i did".

    1. Re:Oh the brainsss! by remahl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That could easily be said for other experiments that have been challenged on ethical grounds. Sometimes experiments find things about ourselves we'd rather not know.

      For example, the Milgram experiement, where participants were mildly coerced by an authoritative person to administer strong electrical shocks to a subject (who was really an actor). A high proportion of the participants were willing to administer levels of shock that they believed to be lethal.

      Would you like to know that you would be capable of murder as long as someone else was there to take the responsibility/blame? Even if the person in the quoted blog post should feel foolish, that does not make the experiment ethical and non-offensive - quite the opposite.

  19. Re:How legal is this... my spin on it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know this is going off topic, but this reminds me of the LSD studies the CIA did in the late 70's.

    Except there's a large line between giving someone chemicals that could very easily be toxic, or at least cause significant health problems, and seeing if people will input private data that the study authors won't use anyway.

    And disciplining the professor or the students in this instance is absolutely insane. The entire point of having an "Human Subjects Committee" oversight board is to allow the university to make these kinds of decisions. Furthermore, I'm still not clear what they did that would qualify as illegal. If spoofing email addresses is a serious crime, there's a lot more people that should be in jail (and it would be massively easier to convict spammers); it's likely that phishing for personal data is only illegal if you actually collect the data, which it appears they didn't (it did a check to see if it was valid, but they don't indicate that the password itself was saved).

    Do some students feel used? Sure... but there doesn't seem to be any real harm done, and it's impossible to actually get an idea of how to deal with the problem of real phishing attempts if you can't get a sense of how many normal people actually fall for what types of things.

  20. RTFA.... by YankeeInExile · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... to find that they did this experiment under the oversight of the university's Human Subjects Committee.

    If that doesn't sound like some sort of ethical guidelines I don't know what does.

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  21. study successful by BroadwayBlue · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "It's kind of ridiculous," she [Junior Lisa Aigner] said. "It's just the fact that a group supposedly affiliated with (the University) ... kind of took my trust and threw it out the window."

    Welcome to the internet; trust no one. I hope more people got the message.

  22. reportphishing@antiphishing.org by jago25_98 · · Score: 2, Informative

    For reference, send phish email you've recieved to

    reportphishing@antiphishing.org

    ( from http://www.antiphishing.org/report_phishing.html )

  23. What was stolen? Ignorance & naivete by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your analogy to robbing a bank is a false one; nothing was actuallly stolen in this project.

    Something was stolen from the unwitting student/participants. They lost their ignorance of the sad state of the internet's infrastructure. This "experiment" created a harsh wake-up call that e-mail is not a trustworthy medium.

    SMTP was never designed for an open environment with untrustworthy users. It was designed for collegial academic networks with funding from people that run closed military networks.

    Why is the solution to everyone's problem with academia "fire the professor"

    I agree 100%, but shooting the messenger is an age-old solution. People prefer a comforting falsehood (email is trustworthy) to a harsh reality.

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  24. Re:The More Attention This Gets, The Better by pclminion · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think it's pretty clear to everyone that these students didn't follow proper procedure for research studies. When I did human experimental research, I had to have my research proposal approved by the Institutional Review Board at my college.

    That's precisely what they did. The whole thing was authorized from top to bottom. They even got the okay from campus IT to "abuse" the computer systems for their purposes. Try RTFA sometime.

  25. Any college age person who is fooled by an email o by TheIndefiniteArticle · · Score: 3, Funny

    Any college age person who is fooled by an email of the described type deserves a swift kick in the ass.

  26. I'm from Indiana by Rocketboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and I object most strenuously to being associated with what sounds like the noisiest bunch of whining idiots in recent memory.

    Unethical? Possibly -- in the current "enlightened" academic environment where definition of terms is often left to whom screams loudest I suppose that one or more of these embarrassed campus inhabitants has enough functioning brain cells to come up with a completely irrelevant but intensely self-referrential definition which supports their childish outrage. It's highly delusional but they're obviously still children and I don't suppose we can expect actual coherent thought from them until they grow up.

    Invasion of privacy"? Drugs must be a significant problem at IU. It always was known as a party school, and this is just more evidence that the description contains some accuracy. And to think that these students are often described as the "best and brightest" and the next generation of leaders. Kinda provides some background for current events, doesn't it? :)

    Rb

  27. What to offended whiners think about Viruses??? by wernst · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Boy, if the whiners there are complaining like this about nothing more than losing their dignity due to BENIGN phishing, imagine how loud their whining will be when they've lost their banking information and social security information due to REAL phishing.

    It seems their primary complaint is that, GASP, "evil" email looked like it was coming from people they know. WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE!!! All the Slammer and Melissa viruses (and their mutated children) DO THE SAME THING: they scan through the address books of their victims, rewrite the "From" line to be one name in the address book, and then write the "To" line to be you (whose name is also in the address book) -- and then there's a good chance that you'll then know the person's name in the "From" line, which (it is hoped) makes you let your guard down and open the infected attachment.

    I'll bet $1028 that 90% of the whiners there have been infected by these viruses in the past, and probably still are. And now they've been fooled a second time the same way. How does that old expression go again?

    When I find some sympathy these whiners, I'll let them know...

  28. Re:shades of Randal Schwarz at Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    He was actually convicted of several charges; I believe he got probation. He had been working as a contractor at Intel at the time. And it had nothing to do with bidding on a project, nor with testing Intel's security.

  29. Angry students by baadger · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The third comment down on the entry blog is the only one worth reading.


    Anonymous Says:
    April 25th, 2005 at 12:19 pm

    "An email could have gone out at the beginning of the semester asking for volunteers to receive a message at a late, unannounced time."


    Moral of the day: If you're going to emulate something evil in a research context you get the damn permission and cover your arse first

    Sneaky Solution: Slip an agreement into the campus network AUP that lets the "IT security office" carry out 'various surveys, tests and research to help improve campus security and promote awareness of security related issues that may effect students. All IT security office studies follow our strict <a href="PP-url-goes-here">privacy policy</a>'. Most students sign an AUP and if they don't read it, then that becomes their problem.
  30. "How to improve your phishing attack" by javaxman · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't understand fully people being upset about this, other than uhem, people who gave up their passwords ( whoops! ). It sucks to have someone er, 'make you look stupid'. Of course, there is the potential that they are somehow/somewhere keeping copies of everyone's passwords, though it looks like they're claiming to delete the actual data.

    The only thing that really bothers me is that they've essentially shown phishers how to dramatically improve their results :

    About 70% of recipients fell victim to the attacks using contextual information from social networks; this is an increase by a factor of 23 compared to known phishing attacks, and by a factor of four compared to the case where the sender is unknown but appears to be in the same domain as the victim

    Er... this is sorta like doing research on how to make a better bomb, buddy. This is not socially responsible computer science research, is it? I'd be more interested in determining out how to create a social networking site ( like whatever this "facebook" thing is ) that _can't_ be exploited in such a manner. That sounds like a more productive and useful exercise, and one less likely to get everyone pissed off at you for showing them to be gullible. 70% is a lot, even if that's just an estimate.

  31. Re:Harm was still done by TheIndefiniteArticle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article seems to indicate that only the FROM part of the emails were phony. The links actually point to the school's server, and no valuable information was recorded, i.e. the passwords were not recorded by some other server. They were given permission only to gain information that was already in the public circle, and they only gathered email addresses which are probably available to anyone from the school's website.

  32. Too easy? by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 4, Funny

    I notice that a lot of the complainants have posted their e-mail addresses in the blog to try to get together to organize action...

    Dear concerned student:
    I am a close friend writing to you about your recent experience with a phishing study in which deception was used. I have met with an attorney on this issue who is interested in pursuing a class action lawsuit on behalf of the victims of this study. To participate, please click the link below and provide the following personal information...

  33. Actually they did. (from an IU employee) by kismaty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, they did phish a few tech-savvy people here, and we did attempt to point them to the authorities. The "authorities" ignored us because they were playing along with the scam the whole time. Thursday, one of my co-workers at the IU campus helpdesk got the email and dismissed it after telling us it might be a potential source of many irate callers later on in the day. And so it was. I got a caller to send us the full headers of the message that appeared to be from his girlfriend. What do you know? The headers clearly showed the message was originating from whuffo@iu.edu! So, with our limited helpdesk lookup tools, I found that whuffo@iu.edu was indeed a valid e-mail account, but it was registered as a departmental account and we could not see who personally created the account. I wanted to get to the bottom of this so I went ahead and looked at the link in the email that it wants users to click on. What do you know? It redirects to a site called www.whuffo.com before asking for the user's credentials! While my co-workers were bitching about it, I decided to do some detective work (Not sure why my co-workers, normally very competent at problem solving skills, didn't think of this). I looked up the whois info on whuffo.com and what do you know? The domain is registered to Professor Markus Jakobssen, of the IU Informatics Department! So who's this Markus guy? I found his IU websites. And one of his research interests is 'phishing.' Hmmm. I take a look at the upper level classes he teaches. What do you know? His powerpoint lecture for I400 for this week is all about HOW TO PULL OFF A PHISHING SCAM. Wow, what's the connection here? Meanwhile, the helpdesk had made this an escalated incident and turned it over to the IT security office. We get a message back (from Tom Jagatic of the IT policy office) saying they are "mitigating the effects of the issue." I had to go look up mitigating in the dictionary before I realized this wasn't a typical response from ITSO. Normally they'd jump on something like this and put a stop to the emails right away. Giving ITSO the benefit of the doubt, I decide to use my new clues on who might be doing this. With this information in hand, I shot off an e-mail to Tom J. and ITSO and the whole rest of the day, I get no response at all. We continue taking calls from confused users and ask them all to change their passwords as it's all we can really tell them to do at this point. I go home and check all fucking weekend, and believe me I was watching all our e-mail accounts like a hawk. No response from Tom Jagatic or the IT security office. So on Monday I'm back at work and I check my mail to find that the whole scam has been put out in the open. In our email there were copies of several mass-emailed apologies to the users who got the phishy message, the users whose identities were spoofed, and to the support center and helpdesk staff. All these messages contained was an explanation of the "experiment" (which you can read in any news story about it) and their "sincere apologies." The rest is history. The blog that Tom and Markus setup, where people are commenting, has got lots of angry people angry at themselves for being duped. That's not why I'm angry. All I want from Tom and ITSO is an actual sincere apology for all the work and extra detective skills I/we put into trying to find the perpetrator, since at the time we weren't in on their little plan. No one seems to understand that in any other circumstance, if this were a real security threat, we'd all be getting pats on the back and compliments for figuring out who was behind it before ITSO did (as that's their job, normally.) But, no, since Tom, Markus, ITPO, and ITSO were all in on it, we just get a mitigated effort at an apology from those guys.

  34. Story from an IU employee by kismaty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I feel like fueling the fire.

    Thursday, one of my co-workers at the IU campus helpdesk got the email and dismissed it after telling us it might be a potential source of many irate callers later on in the day.

    And so it was. I got a caller to send us the full headers of the message that appeared to be from his girlfriend. What do you know? The headers clearly showed the message was originating from whuffo@iu.edu!

    So, with our limited helpdesk lookup tools, I found that whuffo@iu.edu was indeed a valid e-mail account, but it was registered as a departmental account and we could not see who personally created the account.

    I wanted to get to the bottom of this so I went ahead and looked at the link in the email that it wants users to click on. What do you know? It redirects to a site called www.whuffo.com before asking for the user's credentials!

    While my co-workers were bitching about it, I decided to do some detective work (Not sure why my co-workers, normally very competent at problem solving skills, didn't think of this). I looked up the whois info on whuffo.com and what do you know? The domain is registered to Professor Markus Jakobssen, of the IU Informatics Department!

    So who's this Markus guy? I found his IU websites. And one of his research interests is 'phishing.' Hmmm. I take a look at the upper level classes he teaches. What do you know? His powerpoint lecture for I400 for this week is all about HOW TO PULL OFF A PHISHING SCAM. Wow, what's the connection here?

    Meanwhile, the helpdesk had made this an escalated incident and turned it over to the IT security office. We get a message back (from Tom Jagatic of the IT policy office) saying they are "mitigating the effects of the issue." I had to go look up mitigating in the dictionary before I realized this wasn't a typical response from ITSO. Normally they'd jump on something like this and put a stop to the emails right away.

    Giving ITSO the benefit of the doubt, I decide to use my new clues on who might be doing this. With this information in hand, I shot off an e-mail to Tom J. and ITSO and the whole rest of the day, I get no response at all. We continue taking calls from confused users and ask them all to change their passwords as it's all we can really tell them to do at this point.

    I go home and check all fucking weekend, and believe me I was watching all our e-mail accounts like a hawk. No response from Tom Jagatic or the IT security office.

    So on Monday I'm back at work and I check my mail to find that the whole scam has been put out in the open. In our email there were copies of several mass-emailed apologies to the users who got the phishy message, the users whose identities were spoofed, and to the support center and helpdesk staff. All these messages contained was an explanation of the "experiment" (which you can read in any news story about it) and their "sincere apologies."

    The rest is history. The blog that Tom and Markus setup, where people are commenting, has got lots of angry people angry at themselves for being duped. That's not why I'm angry.

    All I want from Tom and ITSO is an actual sincere apology for all the work and extra detective skills I/we put into trying to find the perpetrator, since at the time we weren't in on their little plan. No one seems to understand that in any other circumstance, if this were a real security threat, we'd all be getting pats on the back and compliments for figuring out who was behind it before ITSO did (as that's their job, normally.) But, no, since Tom, Markus, ITPO, and ITSO were all in on it, we just get a 'mitigated' effort at an apology from those guys.

  35. Re:No joke by symbolic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is truly astonishing what is publicly available. We should all be more careful about what we let others know about us,

    He makes this extremely good point some ways into the article. People are so gullilble. They're like Pavlov's dogs who salivate every time they see or hear the word "free", or come across anything that has some kind of "deal" attached to it. After the "I got something for free" rush wears off, the actual cost can be quite substantial.

    I've managed to confound some people at a local specialty store- three times now they've offered me the opportunity to fill out a "deal" card, where they track your purchases. After a certain number, you get a small quantity of the same product for free. I've declined every time. It's just not worth it.

  36. It's not that easy by mordejai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Granted, you have to be a little stupid to actually enter your name/pwd in a site just because you received an e-mail.

    But what about pranks?
    It's easy to create an email that looks legitimate and send it as another person... You only need your regular email software. Even more if you actually know both people.

    For example, when I was studying (4 years ago), we used to email with some teachers.
    One guy sent a mail to another, posing as the teacher, telling him his test or assignment (I don't remember) was bad.

    Not everybody has the time to check mail headers and verify the identity of the sender (and even that can be spoofed). Until we move to an all-signed email world, we're stuck with this.