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RealNetworks Invests in Legitimizing Free Music

Rollie Hawk writes "Want some free music? Silly question, I know. But how about legally? That's exactly what RealNetworks is offering. You may remember RealNetworks from about ten years ago when it was one of the leaders in audio streaming technology. After a decade of steaming becoming more widespread in both audience and medium, RealNetworks' RealPlayer has become an embarrassment to even try installing. This, however, didn't stop them from jumping into the post-Napster song-swapping vacuum with their Rhapsody program. I can't comment on how good Rhapsody is since I've never met anyone who used it. That probably says enough right there. In an attempt to rev-up their subscription-based music service, they are now resorting to giving away 25 songs each month. According to RealNetworks chairman and chief executive Rob Glaser, "by having a free service that is legal, it flattens the issue of 'Why use an illegal service?'" Perhaps that logic would hold more weight if the universe of music contained only 25 songs."

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  1. steaming? by august+sun · · Score: 5, Funny

    I imagine a decade of steaming (sic) would takes its toll on anybody

    1. Re:steaming? by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I imagine a decade of steaming (sic) would takes its toll on anybody"

      Whenever I have to run Realplayer, the word "steaming" often comes to mind.

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  2. Man flamebait or what. by Ckwop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    <news>"Want some free music? Silly question, I know. But how about legally? That's exactly what RealNetworks is offering.</news>

    <flamebait>You may remember RealNetworks from about ten years ago when it was one of the leaders in audio streaming technology. After a decade of steaming becoming more widespread in both audience and medium, RealNetworks' RealPlayer has become an embarrassment to even try installing. This, however, didn't stop them from jumping into the post-Napster song-swapping vacuum with their Rhapsody program. I can't comment on how good Rhapsody is since I've never met anyone who used it. That probably says enough right there.</flamebait>

    <news>In an attempt to rev-up their subscription-based music service, they are now resorting to giving away 25 songs each month. According to RealNetworks chairman and chief executive Rob Glaser, "by having a free service that is legal, it flattens the issue of 'Why use an illegal service?'" </news>

    <flamebait>Perhaps that logic would hold more weight if the universe of music contained only 25 songs."</flamebait>

    I'm not interested in the opinion of the submitter, timothy, I just want the god-damn news. Yes Real media are an easy target but you hurt the bloggers fight for acceptance as part of the media when you post stuff like this. Do you ever see the BBC saying "Real media is just crappy because I say it is?". I think not..

    Simon.

    1. Re:Man flamebait or what. by august+sun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At the same time, a large part of the added value of blog news is the unique perspective of the poster injected into the stories. If I wanted the facts and nothing but the facts I'd stick to FoxNews (joke!). I (and I don't think I'm alone on this) come here for the techie perspective, be it on the front page, or in the bowels of the comments. Besides, it's very clear where he's opining and where he's reporting facts (you did well enough sorting it out for yourself)

    2. Re:Man flamebait or what. by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The summary is just trying to live up to the /. motto. Here's a rule of thumb:

      <news>*</news> = News for nerds
      <flamebait>*</flamebait> = Stuff that matters

    3. Re:Man flamebait or what. by aichpvee · · Score: 5, Informative
      They're not even "giving" away 25 songs. It's 25 plays.

      From this more complete AP article:

      Users who download RealNetworks' new Rhapsody software will get to select the 25 tracks - it could be 25 different songs played once apiece or the same song played 25 times - from a library of more than 1 million tunes, the company said Tuesday.

      Forgive me if I'm not busting down Real's door to get this.

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  3. Free... by Bobvanvliet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    For $9.99 a month, users will get an unlimited number of songs each month. For another $5, they can transfer the tunes to selected portable music players.

    So your free music is DRMed to death? You're also gonna have to pay to put your "free" tunes on a DAP? Free as in beer locked in a safe I guess.

  4. Maybe on Windows... by kerrle · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...RealNetworks' RealPlayer has become an embarrassment to even try installing...

    Certainly that was the case the last time I tried to install it in Windows, but I've actually been fairly impressed by their current Linux client.

    I still use Totem for most of my A/V needs, but RealPlayer is actually fairly competent on Linux, without being overblown.

  5. How free? by bugbeak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How free is this music? What can I do with it once I download it? Can I take it somewhere else and listen it? Can I pass it onto my friend?

    Most imporantly, who does that file belong to once it's downloaded?

  6. not everything can or should be free by R.D.Olivaw · · Score: 4, Informative
    " Perhaps that logic would hold more weight if the universe of music contained only 25 songs."

    You want the whole universe of music to be free? 25 songs is about a free CD every month. That's a good bargain. Do you usually buy more than one CD per month?
    Furthermore, you can select 25 songs from 25 different albums if you so wish. This wy you can get onl ythe songs yo ucare about r if you really want to sample albums to see whether you like them or not, then that give you quite a range to select from.
    all that assuming that they have an extensive store. Of course it all doesn't matter if they only have 20 albums that interest you

    1. Re:not everything can or should be free by behemot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry to upset your hopes, but you don't get to download 25 tracks, you only get 25 'listens". So you can listen once to 25 different songs this month or you can listen to one song 25 times. You can get much more 'free and legal" music from radiostations this way.

  7. The've released Rhapsody 3.0 too early by behemot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been looking forward to a new version of Rhapsody for some time and was disappointed after trying it today. While the media indicates that Real is banking its whole business on Rhapsody, it did not invest nearly enough into developing the software and into testing it before release.

    New features in Rhapsody 3.0 attempt to mimick iTunes functionality - now Rhapsody allows users to add music tracks from the hard drive to its library. Rhapsody crashed on the very first run when trying to conenct to my account, exhibits bad behavior when resizing windows, has very limited interface options. It does not match the even the functionality of iTunes and certainly not its ease of use. You cannot remove 2 second gaps in CD recordings made in Rhapsody, there is no cross-fading between tracks and there are no criteria for creating automatic playlists.

    Overall it seems like a very last-minute update to the previous version which was done without much design effort going into it. I do not think that it will create any waves of excitement among users.

  8. The free songs are streamed, not downloaded by CdBee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read yesterday that Rhapsody is a streaming and download service, and the "free" songs are songs you listen to by streaming. they aren't really free as you don't get to keep them. (its actually "25 free streamed songs per month", not "25 songs to play as you like, every month"

    the whole service is based on listening to remote files. If you want to burn CDs you pay an extra charge over what you already stumped up, for a DRM-controlled AAC download. Which to me makes Rhapsody a rather expensive radio station.

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  9. Dear music industry.. by MartinG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have hundreds of UKP per year to spend on music (and that doesn't include concerts)

    I _WANT_ to buy more music and a WANT TO PAY YOU for it.

    But I will not part with a SINGLE PENNY for DRM'd crap.

    Seriously, you are LOSING BUSINESS and LOSING PUBLIC SUPPORT by continuing with this.

    I agree that there is a lot of online unauthorised redistribution of your works, but evidently DRM is doing nothing to stop it.

    You need to find another approach. Change your business model, lower your prices... I don't know, I'm not a business person but I am a consumer and I do know that you are turning us all off your industry and before long if you continue treating us like criminals more of us will end up downloading everything for free instead.

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  10. A real free service by biglig2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I must mention irate radio (http://irate.sourceforge.net/) as a very interesting example of free music downloads.

    It's a simple java applet that downloads free MP3s for you. You listen, say if you like it or if it sucks, and on the basis of your reply it downloads other music that it thinks you might like.

    This sort of thing is the future of music. Things like garageband mean that musisicans can make music cheaply. Make some of it freely available. Then, a blogger I trust recommends it, I download it, like it, go to your web site, and buy some more.

    And the "Long Tail" dictates that this is the best way to find music that I really like.

    Take my current favourite artist. Now, lots of people like her music, but enough for a record company to make a profit on her CDs in a record store? Probably not, hence her current lack of a deal. But I don't care. I bought her latest couple of CDs direct from her on the web. Paid what I'd pay in a record store, but I have a warm glowing feeling because none of that money paid for some wanker in a marketing department to interview focus groups. It paid to put groceries on her table.

    Oh, and on her web she recommends another artist I'd never heard of who she is working with. More free downloads. I liked that too, so that's another CD sale. And I went to see them both play a gig in London (which was utterly superb) and as soon as their support act finishes their first CD I'm going to download that as well.

    You see how it can work? That's what, 4 CDs and a show ticket, no marketing wankers required.

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  11. 25 downloads? Or 25 "listens"? by Shag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was a little disappointed by the utter lack of an OS X client, but I fired up Virtual PC and Windows XP SP2 (finally! something to use XP for other than running Windows Update! :) and went to check it out. The signup screen indicated that I get 25 "listens" per month. I wonder what a "listen" is... that doesn't sound quite like a "download." :(

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  12. Would you please STFU. by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After a decade of steaming becoming more widespread in both audience and medium, RealNetworks' RealPlayer has become an embarrassment to even try installing.

    Sorry, but you are babbling utter crap. The Realplayer is up to date the only true commercial cross plattform player avaiable, and, legends to the contrary, a very good one. Maybe not up to date with the latest and gratest rich client technologies but SMIL is an open, official full range multimedia document description language and the RealPlayer is it's player, y'know?
    So if you wan't to do some good you should favour Real Streaming over Quicktime and Mickeysuck WMV whenever a site offers it.
    Take this from a Mac User who installed the Reaplayer on top of Quicktime.

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  13. 25 free PLAYS not SONGS by zeromemory · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to Rhapsody.com's front page, you get "25 full-length songs per month - FREE". Upon further investigation you only get to 25 free song plays. You don't get to keep the songs you play, and playing a song twice counts as two songs.

    In other words, it's misleading advertising (oh what's new?) and if Rhapsody thinks this is going to help them compete again iTunes, they're very wrong -- iTunes gives away at least two songs a week that you get to *keep* and play as many times as you want.

  14. Wow guys... give a little more credit. by xENoLocO · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been a rhapsody subscriber since before Real bought them out. It's a GREAT program and Real just made it better. All the music you can handle, 0-day releases and sometimes PREreleases... I never have to buy a CD! And now, you can download songs to your devices as part of your subscription... Now if they only supported the Omnifi DMP1 20gb HDD player I have in my car... They do support a huge range of portable devices though. Give it a try... seriously.

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