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Microsoft Misses Quarterly Revenue Projection

monsterhead78 wrote to alert us to a BusinessWeek article discussing Microsoft's uncharacteristic miss of its own fiscal projections for the third quarter. From the article: "Three months ago, the software giant said it expected revenue for the period to come in between $9.7 billion and $9.8 billion. But when the company released results Apr. 28, it came up short. Microsoft (MSFT ) rang up just $9.62 billion in sales, a 5% increase from the year-ago quarter."

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  1. it's because by Uptown+Joe · · Score: 2, Funny

    they haven't released anything new, except for free patches to fix broken software...

  2. What! The Street loved the results by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's an excerpt from the AP feed:
    Microsoft shares rose 85 cents, or 3.5 percent, to close at $25.30 in Friday trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market.

    The company reported its fiscal third-quarter earnings after financial markets closed on Thursday.

    For the quarter ending March 31, the Redmond, Wash.-based company earned $2.56 billion, or 23 cents per share, up from $1.32 billion, or 12 cents per share, a year ago.

    Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial were looking for the company to post earnings of 32 cents per share on sales of $9.83 billion in the latest quarter. The company would have met earnings expectations, except for legal charges of 5 cents a share and a 4-cent-per-share charge for the expense of stock-based compensation required under new accounting rules.


    Revenue is important but profit even more so. MSFT closed up today 3.48%

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  3. Obviously. by Asicath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously it is because of linux!

    Finally the giant is beginning to fall!!!

    hmmm, only 9.6 billion left to go.

  4. Off by $0.08 Billion? by vraT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems like that isn't exactly poor performance since it's a) less than 1% below the projected sales and b) an increase from last year. I don't see the point.

  5. MS is dying! by Reaperducer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Time to start 20 years of "Microsoft is dying" trolls.

    Just another way Microsoft is copying Apple.

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    1. Re:MS is dying! by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah, Apple.

      Microsoft borrowed the "is dying" part from FreeBSD, just like the Windows network stack! :)

      *ducks*

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  6. Ha! by allanc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your revenue increased, but slightly less than you expected it to be!

    Take *that*, evil empire!

    1. Re:Ha! by Westacular · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aha! They fell 0.8% short of their projections: We've really got them on the run now!

  7. haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    LOL, take that Microsoft! ONLY 9.62 BILLION dollars! How you like dem' apples?!?

    It sux to be them.

  8. And for a different take . . . by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's also this Register piece, which has a different take on things.

    Interesting to me was this quote:
    Microsoft said that its home division - which includes Xbox - turned a profit for the first time, as did MSN.

  9. how much more market saturation can they get? by John+Seminal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Three months ago, the software giant said it expected revenue for the period to come in between $9.7 billion and $9.8 billion. But when the company released results Apr. 28, it came up short. Microsoft (MSFT ) rang up just $9.62 billion in sales, a 5% increase from the year-ago quarter.

    So, if sales went up 5% from last year, how much higher can it go? How many more copies of windows do they need to sell? Or will Microsoft metamorpahsize into a service company? It was not that long ago I was reading that MS was going to stop selling Office, and start renting it. Only way to use it is to be on-line or something dumb like that.

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  10. Earnings up by 160%, revenue projection... by Osrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... missed by 0.009%. MSFT stock up by 3.48% on the day. Oh my! this is quite the story. I'm not quite sure that the lead story quite captures the essence of it though.

    1. Re:Earnings up by 160%, revenue projection... by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Informative

      But the story meets the criteria of slashdot stories

      A) Involves Microsoft
      B) Shows Microsoft did something wrong

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  11. $80 million by rookworm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    while $8E7 is a lot to us mortals, they were only off by less than 1%. What is the big deal?

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    1. Re:$80 million by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a big deal. Here's the thing. If you're the kind of person that even blinks an eye when reading news like this, then you have no business buying stocks. Go get yourself a 2% FDIC-insured savings account. In the grand scheme of things, you only make money in the stock market if you invest for the long term and keep a diversified and balanced portfolio.

  12. Re:Who would have guessed... by TheCabal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Languishing? They posted over 9 BILLION in sales. They came a few million short on a projection. Excatly how do you prove that Microsoft's stock is stagnating? they closed today up over 3 points.

  13. is this really significant ? by for_usenet · · Score: 3, Insightful


    So we're talking about an 80 million dollar miscalculation, out of 9.7 billion dollars (just over 0.8%). I know these are big numbers, but in the grand scheme of statistics, is this more than just a statistical anomoly? Or are the accounts not even supposed to be that little bit wrong ?

    I would love to see MS taken down a notch or two, but I have a hard time believing this is more than just wishful thinking on the part of some parties. If we see more than a 1% reduction in successive quarters, then I'll agree we're onto something. But till that time, I'll just keep hoping ... ;-)

  14. I feel sorry for MS by pretentiousPPC · · Score: 2, Funny

    Darn, instead of a HolyOhMyFuckingGod!!-Truckload of cash they just made a simple OhMyFuckingGod!!-Truckload this quarter

    Well sucks for them...I guess.

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  15. Why is this news? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Funny

    (9.8-9.62)/ 9.7 = 0.18/9.7 = .018556

    Oh wow, Microsoft's sales got overestimated by 1.8%. This _MUST_ appear in Slashdot!</sarcasm>

  16. Re:What! The Street loved the results by d1v1d3byz3r0 · · Score: 3

    Please disregard. I re-read your post and it makes sense the way you had it. My bad.

  17. Re:Who would have guessed... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need a moderation for "no basis in reality".

  18. Re:Who would have guessed... by fsmunoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even more disturbing, who would have guessed 5 years ago that /. would be filled with Apple fanboys while Free Software zealots decrease in number? :)

  19. Re:Who would have guessed... by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Who would have guessed 5 years ago that Apple would be Wall street's darling and growing its stock by leaps and bounds while Microsoft software is languishing its stock is stagnant and not meeting expectations?"

    Microsoft grew earnings 5% over last year, a very impressive feat considering that they haven't released a new OS since 2001.

    They are a mature company, and they have achieved market saturation in many of their sectors. Any growth at all is impressive.

    Moreover, they still make about 3.5 times more revenue per year than Apple - without a strong hardware business.

  20. Why this is happening, IMO by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's not a surprise at all that Microsoft missed their quarterly revenue projection. After all, the company is very accustomed to basically controlling the marketplace and dictating their terms upon their customers. The quarterly projections must have accounted for nearly everybody still using prior versions of Windows to be using Windows XP or Windows Server 2003. They expected tons of sales of the newest Microsoft Office. However, many sysadmins and IT departments are wary of further "upgrades" due to the problems posed by them. Many users who have Office 2000 continue to use it because newer versions, despite their glossy advertisements, really offer nothing new for this type of work. Other users, such as most employees at this company that used to use MS Office, are discovering OpenOffice.org and discovering, for various reasons, that they actually like it better. Essentially, many companies are slowly migrating away from Windows and Office, finding that other software out there is quite capable of doing the job without all the hoopla.

    In our organization, spending on software has declined almost to nothing. We no longer buy MS Office products because OpenOffice.org has eliminated the need to do so; all of our critical infrastructure runs on Linux and FreeBSD; and the desktops and workstations that run Windows continue to run the same versions of Windows that originally came on those workstations. Therefore, we use Windows 98, Me, and XP Personal, which came on several eMachines we bought for office use. And the funniest thing is that while the Linux and FreeBSD boxes continue to use the latest stable and release versions of the OS and software, the Windows boxes have not been upgraded, and there are no plans to do so. It would only be costly, and would offer us nothing in exchange. And I believe the same applies to countless organizations the world over. People will simply not continue to upgrade hardware and software forever.

    That, my friends, is why Microsoft missed its quarterly revenue projection.

  21. a couple ideas... by John+Seminal · · Score: 3, Insightful
    they haven't released anything new, except for free patches to fix broken software

    First, I think I am done buying M$, but having said that, I had an idea.

    Why does not Microsoft not release their OS, but hold it for a few months, have a large beta group of testers. Fix the bugs. Have their own in house hackers try and break in, make more fixes. Load it with lots of different kinds of software and fix whatever problems they have.

    Instead it feels like they release a product too early. Service pack 1 followed by 2 and 3 and 4.

    My second complaint is these service packs are too large for some people with dial-up. If AOL can have 100's of CD's in every computer store, why can't Microsoft have their free service patch CD's in stores??

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    1. Re:a couple ideas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      If AOL can have 100's of CD's in every computer store, why can't Microsoft have their free service patch CD's in stores??

      Because people actually want the service packs?

    2. Re:a couple ideas... by Momoru · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does not Microsoft not release their OS, but hold it for a few months, have a large beta group of testers. Fix the bugs

      Not to be a troll, but can someone tell me specifically what bugs everyone is always talking about? Currently running Windows XP sp2 at home and work, my computers have not crashed once this year...not frozen, not blue screened, nothing. I know occasionally (maybe once a month) you'll get windows explorer crashing (where the desktop looks like its refreshing), but otherwise I don't experience any bugs? (My fedora box is performing as well btw) Please don't respond with "spyware and viruses!!!" cuz a) I havn't ever gotten any b) they are mostly user initiated.

    3. Re:a couple ideas... by black+mariah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shhh... we can't let things like truth leak onto Slashdot.

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    4. Re:a couple ideas... by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 2, Informative

      Microsoft did release totally free XP SP 2 CDs. I'm on dial-up, and I got one. (That said, SP 1 wasn't that bad on dial-up if you're patient like me--I've downloaded a 400-some MB file before. Not pretty, but doable, so something under 100 certainly is, too.) However, with SP 2, I just decided to get the CD.

      Really, it was free--even shipping. They didn't have it in any stores that I know of, but they certainly did have it on their website.

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    5. Re:a couple ideas... by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I haven't checked the AOL CDs as of late. But if there is some room left, maybe Microsoft can get AOL to bundle the full service pack on the root of the AOL CD. If there is room free, it shouldn't cost a damn thing. It would be a win-win for both MS and AOL.

      Microft to cust: Yes mam/sir, you can't download SP2, just pick up an AOL cd.

      AOL to cust: So mam/sir, you want to sign up with AOL? Very well, so just how did you hear about us....

      Get the idea?

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    6. Re:a couple ideas... by snuf23 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's because your Windows machine can detect the trace Mac-elements left on your fingertips from using your Mac at home.
      Bascially the Dell is stressed and really pissed that you have opted to use a Mac at home. It thinks that it is likely to be replaced at some point. It doesn't feel sexy anymore, it feels desperate and second fiddle.
      Probably your best option is to either replace your Mac at home with a PC, or replace your PC at work with a Mac.
      Computers exhibiting architecture jealously is all to common with users that "go both ways".

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    7. Re:a couple ideas... by deranged+unix+nut · · Score: 4, Informative

      Visit http://www.securityfocus.com/ and read the ntbugtraq archives.

      There is a reason why Windows Update exists and why it is giving you dozens of updates every month.

      Put an un-patched windows 2000 or XP box on an open internet connection and you will be (silently) spreading viruses in minutes.

      When I was working at Microsoft, the corporate network was so flooded that newly installed systems were instantly infected unless we took them off of the network before we installed and patched a windows 2000 system.

    8. Re:a couple ideas... by Mudcathi · · Score: 2, Funny
      "If AOL can have 100's of CD's in every computer store, why can't Microsoft have their free service patch CD's in stores??"

      Because AOL's carpetbomb into submission business model is incompatible with MS's burn, rape, & pillage business model. The former requires a steady stream of village idiots & court jesters to work, whereas the latter depends upon unprotected villagers and sheep.

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    9. Re:a couple ideas... by jackbird · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The equivilent to a user opening a "free pr0n" email attachment in a car would be driving your car straight at a tree.

      No, it's like taking your through a drive-thru in a part of town you don't know and ending up with a feces-hurling monkey chained to your back seat.

      The day I switched to Firefox and never looked back was the day I got reamed with 3 different spywares and a porn dialer by fat-fingering a URL and ending up at some horrible typosquatting cesspool.

    10. Re:a couple ideas... by Momoru · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for the reasonable answer, however I would point out two things, the original poster that I responded to made it sound like the current patched version of Windows is buggy, so buggy in fact that we need to have a focus group get together, test it and fix all these bugs that are in windows. Its a GOOD thing that we get patches from Microsoft every month, the bad times were when they didn't offer this service. If you take any given operating system there are tons of patches released all the time. There are constantly updates and bug fixes for Firefox, Linux, Apache, etc... Bugs happen, patches are good. My only point is that people make Windows sound "buggy", and this reminds me of when I was a hard core mac user in the late 90s and everyone kept telling me how crappy and buggy macs were based on their occasional use of them at school or in the 80s. Yes windows was real buggy in the late 90s to early 00's, but they have done a decent amount of effort to fix these problems, and XP is just as usable and secure as Linux or Macintosh these days, it just happens to get alot more attention because of its user base. As I mentioned before, I just let automatic update do its thing, don't open unsecure attachments, and have no problems with my computer. With XP, unlike Win98, I havn't had to reinstall windows once, and i havn't had my PC lock up once.

    11. Re:a couple ideas... by qurk · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Well, he may be on to something. The last time I ever installed (tried to install) a version of windows, it asked me if I want to install windows to my "main hard drive". I had a 2 gig hd as primary and a 40 gig hd as slave. Now, as you have insinuated, using win98, I was very used to reinstalling it a lot. Every time before that, I had physically unplugged my data hard drive from my computer, and installed windows, then later I plugged my data hard drive back in. This time I didn't, I was stupid hasty. Well instead of installing to my "main hard drive", windows left my 2 gig primary hard drive along, and repartitioned my 40 gig secondary hard drive as a single 2 gig partition, with windows on it. I had had all my computers and everything stolen about 4 months earlier, and having a piece of Microsoft software delete (steal) all my data I had collected since then...was like getting kicked in the balls.

      I just relate this to you that what the original poster suggested wasn't such a bad idea. If Microsoft is going to be charging hundreds of dollars for their software (which I've declined to use for almost 5 years now, no thank you), then it would be in their best interest to try to get rid of bugs.

      Also I have a lot of friends who use Win XP, and at first they always claim what you say, "never crashes, never locks up, works great" but after a while they let slip a lot of the b.s. they have to deal with. That being said if you know what you are doing and take care of your computer XP probably would be great, but not for average Joe Newbie... I have no reason to think you are not telling the complete truth, just letting you know my opinion :)

    12. Re:a couple ideas... by Sivar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I too have found that Windows (2000 in my case, I can't stand XP) to be just as reliable as my Ubuntu and Gentoo systems.

      That said, you are absolutely correct--Macromedia products are particularly shoddy. While I think that Dreamweaver's interface is fairly bad, that is opinion. It is not an opinion that they are flaky and unreliable though.
      Macromedia fans can throw "PEBKAC" and "RTFM" and "Stupid User Error" all they like. Myself (who is not a web developer) and several professional web developers that I know, including those that somehow like Dreamweaver, have all found it to be the worst of crap in terms of software quality, crashing randomely on a wide variety of systems. In addition to crashing, they often exhibit strange, generally flaky behavior. For example, when I use the edit preview mode (in which you can see a rough preview of what the rendered HTML will look like, and edit it in WYSIWYG mode), the cursor in the HTML preview will be between two characters and the cursor in the source code preview will be offset by one character. As you edit one, the cursor in the other is in the wrong place. Admittedly this was not with the latest version (first release of the "MX" line, though for as long as Dreamweaver had been out, you'd think it would be a mature product).

      Big deal? Not at all, but a mass of tiny details are what make the difference between a good product and a shoddy piece of junkware. I won't even go into how it, incredibly, isn't snappy even on a Pentium IV 3GHz HT and 1GB of RAM. Perhaps I've been spoiled by top-quality editors like Jed (a modified release of EMacs), Visual Studio (yes, a Microsoft product. Oh my!), and Kate.

      Hopefully Adobe, who makes (IMO) very reliable (if a little hard to use) software, can hire a management team that will give the programmers time to clean up the mess they've likely been forced to make due to the usual bad PHB decisions.

      That said, unfortunately, every other feature-rich web-language editor I've tried is lacking in other ways, at least in my opinion. (The editors I mentioned above are editors I used in general, they aren't really HTML editors). About the nicest I've seen for Windows is PHPEdit, which still has a number of really irritating problems, but is at least stable and consistent, not to mention mostly free (Google for it if curious). If only they'd fix the asinine "CTRL-Y deletes lines of text in addition to being redo" bug that persists to this day, and also persists in other editors that use that crappy Delphi text widget (Dev-C++ comes to mind).

      As for GAIM, all I can say is GTK-based products are crap in Windows. Try Miranda--it sucks less. I've never found any GTK app to be fast, stable, or well integrated other than in GNOME and XFCE. This isn't GAIM's fault--it's a great LINUX chat client which has been ported to Windows, using a took kit that's little more than bolted on. GTK and Windows do not seem to mix well, and no, The GIMP is not an example otherwise--it still sucks in Windows.

      IE has always been remarkably flaky for me. As much as people make fun of it and as much as you lose "geek points" for using it, it is one of the fastest browsers around (it loads faster even under WINE in Linux than Firefox does natively on any platform) and it is easily the best supported, though that is more due to its ubiquity than its support for web features (which by the way sucks--IE's CSS support has made me want to plan more than a few discreet assassinations at Microsoft).
      That said, while it appears to be quite stable for many people, it's rarely gone more than 2-3 days without crashing on me, and taking out a number of other processes with it. Maybe I ask too much of it running 15 copies at once. But then, Firefox seems to have little problem (though it is still occasionally flaky).

      In any case, Linux users have had extremely legitimate gripes against Windows for the longest time, but since the release of Windows 2000, I think the snide remarks are riding on Windows' old reputation r

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  22. it dont matter by micromuncher · · Score: 2, Informative

    If Microsoft were a blue chip stock, this would be important. BUT ... Microsoft is a commodity stock - so missed earnings are pretty much irrelevant - because until recently Microsoft has not paid a dividend, and investment stocks usually react differently to bunged projections (cause it means you didn't get paid.) All Microsoft has to do is announce some vapourware and the stock price goes up. Such is the nature of commodities.

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  23. Re:What! The Street loved the results by winkydink · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think you need to bone up on how to read financial statements and pick stocks.

    For example, MSFT has a P/E of 24.5. Dor a good explanation of P/E, look here

    By comparison, AAPL's is 40 and that other Slashdot darling, GOOG's, is at 88!

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  24. Re:Been there by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've worked as a cashier, but I've most certainly never put money in the till to make the balance. Usually on my shifts, I was never off by more than a dollar, and usually under $0.20 (giving away pennies, etc). The company I worked for didn't expect a perfect balance ever. It was only when the amount was significant that any sort of investigation was done. (for example, being $10 short would warrant a review of the security tapes)

  25. Headlines by aaarizpe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google News:

    Microsoft profits jump to US$ 2.56 billion this quarter (Earthtimes.org)
    Microsoft Third-Quarter Profits Double (Yahoo News)
    Microsoft: The Cash Machine (Motley Fool)

    Slashdot:

    Microsoft Misses Quarterly Revenue Projection

    It's almost as if there's some bias or something...

  26. Re:What! The Street loved the results by timeOday · · Score: 2, Interesting
    For the quarter ending March 31, the Redmond, Wash.-based company earned $2.56 billion, or 23 cents per share, up from $1.32 billion, or 12 cents per share, a year ago.
    Bah, mere chump change. Let's hear it for Shell Oil, with a profit (not revenue!) of 9.3Bn pounds (not measley US dollars!) In comparison, I can see what a disappointment Microsoft's missed earnings target must be, and why they need to uncap the H1B program to get more cheap labor.

    I just find it comforting, with my deflating techie salary and rising energy prices, that at least somebody is having a good time.

  27. Perspective ... you zealots... by telstar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To put it in perspective, VA Software, the company that owns Slashdot, is trading at 1.37/share ... down from their 52-week high of 3.17. Those that live in glass houses...

  28. Re:Been there by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Funny
    So, why didn't Bill just pull $80 million out of his wallet and slip it into the till to make it balance? He must carry at least that much in spare change! (Anybody who doesn't understand what I'm saying has obviously never worked as a cashier. ;-)

    I'm beginning to think you never worked as a cashier either. You'd never get the till closed with $80 million in there.

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  29. Re:What! The Street loved the results by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Revenue is important but profit even more so. MSFT closed up today 3.48%

    Revenue (i.e., top line) growth is necessary for the long-term growth of the company. Earnings (i.e., bottom line) are more representative of the short term quarter-to-quarter health of the company.

    When was the last time that Microsoft came up short on revenue for a quarter?

  30. The real reason the stock rose by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think confused investors were thinking Microsoft released Tiger today. :-)

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  31. Can the /. news filter please relax? by timothy_m_smith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know why I even both to post this b/c I haven't posted in months, but can't this site be just tiny, itsy bit less slanted? I understand that MS is the antithesis of Open Source and that is what this site is about, but please spare me this type of story.

    No one here would give a crap about MS corporate results, but b/c they miss by a couple percent it becomes a story. Can't there be a little bit more reason? Not everything in the Windows world is terrible and every aspect of Open Source is not perfect. Maybe that is why I like Ars Technica better, b/c they are much more reasonable...

  32. Revnues missed due to currency flucations by jordandeamattson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you dig a little deeper on this one, you will see that the cause of the revenue miss is due to currency flucations (the dollar moved the reverse of their hedges, strengthening).

    What was important - and eye opening here - is that even with a miss on the revenue side, earnings were double what they were in the year ago quarter.

    While you can't continually grow the bottom line (earnings), with a shrinking top line, it is positive and says something good when a company has robust earnings even in the face of declining revenues.

    If you break down the revenues you find something interesting. Strong improvements in both Server products and XBox. Both of these are positives for Microsoft and are in line with their long-term directions.

    Yours,

    Jordan

  33. Halving of R&D budget isn't the story? by Jboy_24 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So they missed their revenue proejctions by a fraction, yet they posted double the profits from last quarter by halving their R&D Budget from 3 billion to 1.5 billion. And slashdot doesn't pick up on that.

    My question, since R&D covers almost all new development in the company,
    Which products/programs where cut?

    Have they dropped their "Inovate" slogan?

  34. Re:You know what is wrong... by JNighthawk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Totally disregard myself, the parent. I'm not exactly sure what happened there or how that sentence came out in typing. Hell, ignore this one too.

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  35. Sarbanes-Oxley by quarkscat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    MSFT, Fannie-Mae, and many other public corporations are now (finally) under the onus of section 404 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. They can no longer "smooth out" the squiggles on their profit line charts that reflect the true nature of business -- now the corporate officers must certify both the internal financial accounting process AND the quarterly results posted with the SEC.

    Juggling the numbers to keep the shareholders numbly ignorant is now a criminal act that the corporate officers are responsible for. Accounting mechanisms for pushing/pulling income spikes and sags into another quarterly report are no longer tolerated.

    Any company with large corporate and government customers is bound to have variations in their accounts receivables, some of which will break the rising tide of their profit line charts. There (usually) isn't anything really wrong with these corporations. It's just that the accounting equivalent of cosmetic botox injections are no longer allowed. If this drives shareholders into the mentality of a longer term financial view, like 1, 3, and 5 year outlooks, it would not be a bad thing for the economy as a whole. It will, however, suck rotten eggs for all the corporate officers whose bonuses and incentives are tied to their quarterly results. I will weep giant crocodile tears for them -- NOT!

  36. Re:Gates and his H-1b habit by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Post hoc, ergo propter hoc?

    Perhaps the poor performance of Sun and HP's stock has more to do with it having been run up in the internet bubble, and then having to compete with their own products on the aftermarket as the dot coms were liquidated.

    -jcr

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