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Viacom Launches Podcast-Only Radio Station

prostoalex writes "Figuring out it couldn't get any worse, Viacom is turning an underperforming talk radio station in San Francisco into podcasting central. KYOU Radio performed so poorly in the ratings that it would not even show up on the official Arbitron radio rankings for the city of San Francisco. Now the Web site of the station owned by $56.5 billion corporation features a hip young look and claims to be the Open Source Radio. Visitors can upload the podcasts of their own in MP3, AIFF, AVI or WMA formats (no OGG support by someone who's so accepting of open source)."

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  1. Good idea by katana · · Score: 5, Funny

    Radio that's just as good as your local public-access TV channels. Won't that be awesome.

    1. Re:Good idea by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I personally would like for this to mean the return of old-timey radio dramas. After all, I can't imagine that this would ever be done by anyone other than amateurs. Our local college radio station has something similar to a radio drama (although it's a bit more of a narrative) every monday night, and it's actually quite enjoyable.

    2. Re:Good idea by aero6dof · · Score: 3, Interesting

      (oops bad formatting)... Have you ever heard of the ZBS foundation? They're worth a listen if you like radio drama - I like the Ruby and Jack Flanders series...

  2. Not a bad idea by HELLO.JPG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From a business perspective this is genius. Content costs nothing because it's created by users and everything they make is pure profit. People will tune in to see if their content was picked or not.

    Of course, it will probably end up being just as crappy as local public access channels. Except, instead of seeing teenagers prank call McDonald's it'll be wannabe Art Bells ranting about how George W. Bush is hiding Osama bin Laden on the dark side of the moon.

    1. Re:Not a bad idea by grqb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They have to screen each mp3 file that they play to make sure they don't get their asses sued by playing illegal content...that'll take a lot of hours, I can imagine that every podcaster and their dogs will be submitting something to these guys.

  3. The Jarvis Take by KrackHouse · · Score: 3, Informative
    From BuzzMachine.
    Now having said all that, I'll repeat that YOURadio is big news and good news for a few reasons: First, it is big media recognizing that it's time to listen -- and do more than listen: Let the people speak. It is big media recognizing the value of citizens' media. Second, it is an admission that the old, one-size-fits-all, top-down, one-way models of programming are broken and the audience can do it better. Third, it an admission that the old business models are soon to break and that the people can provide more talent for less than the old talent could. It's nothing less than the economic salvation of old media... if old media is smart enough to financially support citizens' media and not just exploit it. What's important is that a big media company knew it was time to stick some dynamite up the alimentary canal and push the plunger. It is the tipping point.
    Jay Rosen also has an interesting take on his blog, PressThink here.
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    1. Re:The Jarvis Take by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gues they should have saved it for a podcast ... (oh, the irony)

  4. This has already been done by grqb · · Score: 3, Informative
    Openpodcast.org does exactly this, they've been doing this now for a long time. And, there may even be plans to do the same thing over satellite radio (although you'd have to listen to about a 2hr podcast from Adam Curry to learn more)

    shameless plug for my podcast: theWatt Weekly - energy news and discussion in mp3 format

    1. Re:This has already been done by grahams · · Score: 4, Informative

      This article is talking about broadcasting the submitted podcasts over AM radio, which is distinctly and wholly different from Openpodcast.org, as far as I can tell..

  5. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That analogy is all wrong. You should point out that Slashdot claims to be about open source, but refused to switch to PNG over GIF.

  6. OK, you're crazy by Schlemphfer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Call me crazy, but I fail to see what all the hubbub is about podcasting (I also dislike the name). I think it is kind of neat as an idea, but I just don't see any financial strategy behind this that is in anyway sustainable. This isn't meant to be flamebait, I am really curious.

    Please take the sentence above and insert "the web" where "podcasting" is currently placed. You could say much the same thing about the web lacking a financial strategy for content-oriented sites, especially back in 1999. But it evolved, at least somewhat. The same thing will happen to podcasts.

    Of greater importance, though, is that something can be totally paradigm-shifting but not generate a lot of cash. If 20 million people soon do most of their "radio" listening by podcast, the implications to society are enormous regardless of how much money is being made.

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  7. With apologies to the Buggles by NZheretic · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ipodding Killed The Drive Time Radio Star.

    I heard you on the wireless back in Ninety Two
    Driving to work intent at tuning in on you.
    If I was jammed it didn't stop you coming through.

    Oh-a oh

    They took the credit for your shock jock comedy.
    Recorded on Ipods and new technology,
    and now I understand the problems you can see.

    Oh-a oh

    I met your children

    Oh-a oh

    What did you tell them?

    Ipodding killed the drive time star.
    Ipodding killed the drive time star.

    Downloads came and broke your heart.

    Oh-a-a-a oh.

    And now we meet in an household studio.
    We hear the playback and it seems so long ago.
    But we all agree Clear Channel has to go.

    Oh-a oh.

    You were the last ones.

    Oh-a oh.

    We are the next ones.

    Ipodding killed the drive time star.
    Ipodding killed the drive time star.
    On my hip and in my car, we can rewind if we've gone to far.

    Oh-a-aho oh,
    Oh-a-aho oh

    Ipodding killed the drive time star.
    Ipodding killed the drive time star.

    On my hip and in my car, we can rewind if we've gone to far.
    Downloads came and broke your heart, put the blame on Adam Curry.

  8. Re:No Ogg support == Not open source? by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 3, Funny

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  9. Forget podcasting !! Return the airwaves ! by zymano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Return the airwaves to the public. We could use those frequencies more efficiently with muni wifi !

    Get rid of the FCC. Pure shills for monopolists.

  10. Yeah... by rampant+mac · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "no OGG support by someone who's so accepting of open source"

    Does EVERY fucking article concerning compressed audio have to stick this little jab into each headline?

    Slashdot's open source... "no WC3 conformity by someone who's so accepting of open source"

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    1. Re:Yeah... by killjoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Does EVERY fucking article concerning compressed audio have to stick this little jab into each headline?"

      Yes it does. This is an open source web site. I come here BECAUSE slashdot (and only slashdot) does that.

      I have a choice os billion web sites to choose from and so do you. I chose to come here and read news with open source advocasy in mind. If you don't want to read about open source advocasy I might suggest gotdotnet or a million other web sites which are anti open source or don't give a flying donut about open source.

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  11. FCC by mlc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happens when someone says "fuck" in one of their podcasts?

    1. Re:FCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow - the fact you got modded as troll when you hit on the only problem with this scheme shows how little people here know about radio.

  12. Re:podcast != radio by isaac_akira · · Score: 3, Informative

    Did you read the article? Or even read the summary? This *is* radio. A real radio station that is broadcasting people's podcasts *over the airwaves*.

  13. Commercials? by hotspotbloc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From a business perspective this is genius. Content costs nothing because it's created by users and everything they make is pure profit.

    I agree about the possiblity of being very profitable but what about commercials? The station needs to broadcast them:

    1. Will they just slice out content and insert commercials? If so, who decides what gets cut?
    2. Will they require producers to adhere to standard breaks and limit content time to something like 22:30 minutes per half hour with 3 breaks?
    3. Could the broadcaster insert an ad for a bbq shack during a pro PETA show (unlikely, but could happen)? Will the producer be allowed to insert their own ads?
    4. If the podcaster says one of the "seven dirty words" and it's gets broadcast couldn't the producer get hit with law suit from an injured third party (like an advertiser)?

    Yes, there could be a lot of profit in it but IMO it will be a rocky road in the beginning. While some podcasters will adapt I hope that's the exception to the rule. I like podcasts the way they are.

    Of course, it will probably end up being just as crappy as local public access channels. Except, instead of seeing teenagers prank call McDonald's it'll be wannabe Art Bells ranting about how George W. Bush is hiding Osama bin Laden on the dark side of the moon.

    If that part was posted by alone it would get a +5, Funny. =)

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  14. ogg support by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Informative

    Canada's CBC radio supports OGG streams.

    Just check out Quirks and Quarks, a weekly science show broadcast on Saturdays.

  15. Re:podcast != radio by prockcore · · Score: 3, Informative

    A real radio station that is broadcasting people's podcasts *over the airwaves*.

    Goddammit. It's not a podcast if it's not wrapped in RSS. It's just an mp3. This is a *shoutcast* server that lets people submit mp3s to be broadcasted.

    It has *nothing* to do with podcasting. The word "podcast" shouldn't even be used here.

    It's also nothing new. Many shoutcast servers allow people to submit mp3s, many even allow you to "guest DJ" with winamp.

  16. Re:mp3 is better than .ogg by stuuf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are two main reasons why Ogg/Vorbis is used by the small number of people who use it. One is that the format is open source, so people can write all kinds of software for it without worrying about patents or licensing fees. Another reason (which is less of an issue since portable players are now available with storage that would put even a high end PC from five years ago to shame) is that the codec is much newer than mp3 and gives higher quality in a comparable file size.

    One of the reasons that Ogg hasn't been widely adopted yet is that companies like Apple prefer to make their players support proprietary formats that are more friendly to DRM than open source codecs. That's the only real technical obstacle preventing people who don't know about it from hearing about it. Distributing content solely in mp3 format that is destined mainly for playback on a computer is mostly just ignorance, since EVERY well known player comes with a vorbis decoder by now. MP3 was the first breakthrough audio format, and the closest and digital audio format has come to a household name, so it will continue to dominate for quite some time.

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