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Copy-and-Paste Reveals Classified U.S. Documents
cyclop writes "In March, U.S. troops in Iraq shot to death Nicola Calipari, the Italian intelligence agent that rescued the kidnapped journalist Giuliana Sgrena. U.S. commission on the incident produced a report which public version was censored for more than one third. Now Italian press is reporting that all confidential information in the report is available to the public, just by copying "hidden" text from the PDF and pasting it in a word processor (Italian). The uncensored report can now be directly downloaded (evil .DOC format, sorry)"
Curious enough, the kidnappers warned the hostage to be wary of US soldiers. The US soldiers attempted to murder her, and failed but murdered the Italian agent negotiating her release. The current Italian government is strongly supporting the illegal US occupation of Iraq, and still the US does this to a close ally. I'm a bit surprised that the government did not fall because of this. Like everywhere in Eurpoe, people is very much against this war.
If the foreign soldiers don't want shooting with the arms being allegedly bought with that money then
A : Get the fuck out of the country they have no right to be in anyway
B : Stop shooting innocent civilians for no good reason at all
It's not just coincidence that British forces suffer far fewer incidents and casualties than American forces, while also killing fewer innocent civilians.
American soldiers are badly trained, badly disciplined and quite frankly often deserve to die.
~Cederic
Are you sure this doesn't have more to do with the gay thing than the political thing?
The stupidity of some of the comments found on slashdot never ceases to amaze me, especially considering nerds are supposed to be of above average intelligence. This is a complex issue and I doubt any of us are qualified or have enough information to really comment fully on it, i'm sure there is much information that is excluded from this and the that the public will never know. There are no pictures of the scene here, or the road layout, or the route the driver was taking, its very hard to make big judgements based solely on text. I don't think the driver knew there would be a road block there, and the troops guarding it didn't know the Italians were coming. To me it justs seems like another tragic incident caused by trigger happy US soldiers which could have been averted if the Italians had communicated properly that they were coming. What annoys me is the way some people try to put the man who died's actions down because they paid a ransom, (somehow I think people would be making less comments about funding terrorism if it was their mother or father about to be beheaded) the guy lost his life taking bullets meant for someone else which should be an admirable quality whatever country you come from.
The 'censored' line: "The driver initially acknowledged driving 90 mph but said they were taking evasive action to avoid the paparazzi" was a giveaway.
No, that's what Fox news says about themselves, everyone knows they're right wing.
This happened before with an astroturfed Microsoft "Switch" campaign
;) (even your own computer will be against you, remember that)
WHAT?! What M$ have to do with this??. And you dont want to know what your militaries are doing??. On the future that will not to happend, with the so called TCPA. But even with that less people will have access to that documents and even worse, they can be viewed by corporations, that could sell that information to anyone. Loyalty means nothing when there is money in the middle, not even for militaries. So be prepared to the near future, where the people that is supposed to be protecting you be against you
So in your lights the 15% or so of police officers that have fired their weapons in the line of duty are all guilty of attempted murder?
Interesting position, that...
Being a soldier who just got back from Iraq I'm actually pretty pissed at this because of the fucking dangers behind it. But I'll leave it at that.
If the majority of American soldiers were as "pissed" at the needless loss of life, brutality, and, to paraphrase British Intelligence officers, general treatment of Iraqis as subhuman, it is quite likely that this situation and many thousands like it would never have occurred. American propagandists are not credible when accusing Iraqi freedom fighters for mostly hitting civilians (as American soldiers increasingly hide behind the skirts of civilians) when most Iraqis killed by Americans have been civilians as well, and American techniques are only a stone's throw from those of Sadaam, the former best friend of America until they threatened the oil supply.
While I pray for the lives of the American troops, I pray first for the Iraqis defending their homeland against such Godless immoral aggressors, that a few Americans with morals will stand up for the true victims in the case, and hope that Americans would make such a brave stand in a similar occupation of America by a different culture dictating what was right.
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He spun his captain's chair around so he was facing the life-size poster of Tom DeLay, photoshopped into turgid nudity. "Oh yeeeeaaaahhhh, Tommy boy. Ride me, Tommy, ride me!" Drool ran down his cheek as he staggered to his feet and then flung himself/collapsed forward on all fours before his pock-marked god. In his right hand, the 14" Black Mamba that was his closest friend and constant companion. He grunted and squealed, breaking into a sweat in an attempt to get his beefy hands back around to position the head of the Mamba at his back door. Rolling around the room on his belly he screamed in frustration at the unfairness of it all, stopping only briefly to stuff his face full of Krispy Kremes. The glazing melted beneath his onslaught of Republican tears and he tried desperately to lick off as much of the tasty pain as he could.
Finally, exhausted from his efforts, AC returned to his original project. Again, more struggling around the room, with only the first of the inch of the Mamba inserted to show for all his trouble. He again worked his way to his feet, using a step ladder this time. Two hours later, upon success, he released his grip on the step ladder. But his crisco legs had atrophied, and he fell back on his ass, fortuitously jamming all 14 inches up his sphincter. With Tom grinning down at him, AC ejaculated like a rocket. Well, like one of those Missile Defense Shield rockets, which is to say a few micro grams of something seeped out, only to be lost in mass of cheese coating the folds of lard over his groin. But to him, this was is a stupendous victory every bit as great as the one for Democracy going in Iraq right now. He knows in his heart that unlike those Commie Cunts out there spending their time in terror-ridden Iraq, he is the real hero.
Should I expect less if I make jerky motions into my pockets when a police officer pulls me over for a routine traffic accident?
That depends if you live in the US, or a civilized, non-gun-toting country.
"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
Since you'll get modded up for the blatant American bashing and ivory tower top down look at warfare allow me to clarify my use of the word "pissed".
You were the one who got modded up for such one-sided comments, that as usual show no compassion but for buddy bullies. You, not I, apparently spent months bashing and repudiating American values and good American reputation in Iraq, not that all soldiers there are guilty of this.
I think you made my point that you are pissed for all the wrong reasons. Perhaps you left the first one out, which is morally more legitimate than the others:
You pissed yourself out of sheer terror, which war should be to everyone (sorry you think it should be a picnic where you can do anything you like).
Just because attitudes like yours are the cause of the needless tradgedy, does not mean they are the answer to avoid them.
All you filthy Zionists LIE!
Of course the Bush Chimpler military industrial death machine switched the car!
To back up their phony lying murderous genocidal right wing behavior.
Do your Canadian schools not teach that it's "Iraq" and not "Irak?"
Since I am a right-wing fascist hyena, I will be very very happy to see the Chomskyite nitwittery repeated loud and long, until the Democrats are as dead as the Whigs and Know-Nothings.
-ccm
Too much Law; not enough Order.
That being case, you would think the Italians involved in the operation would have alerted the U.S. forces about their intentions in advance. It appears they failed to do so. People who do not follow instructions or use common sense in a war zone have nobody but themselves to blame when they are fired upon.
What platform was the adobe software running on?
-William
God is everything science has yet to explain.
I don't think you are a soldier otherwise you would have the balls to post with your nick.
Or maybe that is what (US) Soldiers are, just a bunch of Anonymous Cowards.
What power has law where only money rules.
Im sure she and everyone else that is there knows the risks.
Posted anon due to when posting about a political issue on slashdot (reguardless of with side) tends to make your foes list grow.
How about this. The solders saw a car driving at them eratically, there was something a little strange and different about this car. They, being in a war zone and scared young men, shoot at the car.
The rest is so much mud slinging to make american solders look bad. These poor kids were just trying to protect themselves. Car bombs are REALLY popular in that part of the world you know.
The Italians are the ones who fucked up thinking they could play "cowboy", and run into a war zone and sneak somebody out, like something out of a Bruckhiemer movie. Only Americans should be playing "cowboy", and possibly Australians.
The Golden Rule -- "He who has the gun, makes the rules."
"unless, of course, you're the type of person that wants to see United States and Iraqi citizens blown to pieces."
I resemble that remark!
In this case, however, it's tin foil hat thinking to believe the Iraqi insurgency already doesn't know every detail of US SOP - they've been viewing it for two years and they learn fast.
Not to mention that US SOP is incompetent at best.
In any event, the details are also irrelevant in this case since it's clear from the Italian testimony that a:) they were on a "secure" road (if such a thing exists in Iraq); b) the "roadblock" was a hundred meters from the road and consisted of a tank and a few soldiers; c) the roadblock should have been removed a half hour earlier (which is equally irrelevant since it wasn't necessary in the first place if the road was really "secure"); d) every statement made by the US concerning this incident is a bold-faced, emphasized lie in italics - just like it has been in every other case of civilian shootings in Iraq.
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
In other words, the US public shouldn't be told how incredibly incompetent US commanders really are and how trigger-happy and incompetent US troops really are.
And I say this having seen exactly this in Vietnam forty years ago.
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
In other other words, because this information has leaked, the lives of the people, both Coalition and Iraqi, who man highway checkpoints in Iraq have been put in even greater danger.
They are the aggressors, they deserve everything bad that happens to them. The fight in Iraq is not carried out by terrorists, but by insurgents, guerilla warriors, defenders of the homeland, if you wish. Although I don't particularly like them, the war they wage on Americans is justified.
Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
read FDR's arsenal of democracy speech. he claimed that germany wanted to control the world and dominate the US. wrong. hitler wanted lebensraum and control of europe. he thought asia should be ruled by asians. as for america, he thought we were a bastard racial mix that was doomed to failure. however, howevr, he implored his sub commanders under no circumstances to attaack US ships, even ships carrying supplies to britain. though germany decalred war on us, it was because we were openly aiding britain for a year and a half, and he figured it would solidify his ties to japan. and, he never thought for one moment we'd ever give one dime to the bolsheviks.
we're not running for asb. it matters not at all if we're "liked". however, i suggest you look past the state run media and the clerics. i'll take hundreds of thousands in beirut. you think that woul dhavbe happened sans OIF?
saddam had long standing aQ ties. here's 3 quickies: 1) ramseh yousef and muhammad (?) yasin. 1993 WTC bombing. 2) ansar al islam an dsalman pak. aQ affiliate and trainging center in iraq. 3) ayman al zawahiri. aQ #2, head of ops. was head of muslim botherhood in egypt for years. primary backer? saddam. he left Egypt for afghanistan in 1999. there's more too. anyways, to say "iraq didn't attack us" show a simpliostic and ignorant view of history. remember, we had a cease fire with iraq post GW1. we were patrolling 2/3 of his airspace. we were enforcing sanctions and embargoes. we had 100,000 troops of his coast to ensure inspections. on 9/11, there was only one nation we were engaged in hostile militray relations with: iraq. they had been shooting at us and we them, in accordance, I might add, with UN resolutions. bush didn't "go to war" but rather finished the war. big difference. we were not at peace with iraq.
the connection is easy. i suggest you read several books. start with shirer's rise and fall of the 3rd reich, read Kagan preseravtion of peace, read Thucydides history of the peloponesian war, read churchill's history of ww2 for starters. as for safer, we were less safe in 1943 than we were in 1940.
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
If the information helps make clear that the Iraqi Invasion is not working to pacify the Iraqis and is in fact leading to more terrorism against Americans than has occurred since Pearl Harbor, then it may save a lot more lives to reveal how ineffective the guard efforts there. And this report makes it quite clear, especially some of the formerly classified bits.
So you are calling our troops Germans? or Italians? Or Japanese? Last I checked those are the only countries that
have a proven record of genocidal agression.