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When Lofar Meets Stella
Roland Piquepaille writes "The LOFAR (Low Frequency Array) telescope is a new IT radio-telescope which will use about 20,000 simple radio antennae when it's completed in 2008. At this time, it will cover an area with a diameter of 360 kilometers centered over the Netherlands. Its small radio antennae will detect radio wavelengths up to 30 meters, and because the ionosphere can bend some of these radio waves, the Lofar images might be somewhat blurry. So all the information captured by these antennae will be digitized and sent to a computing facility at a rate of 22 terabits/second today, and almost 50 terabits/second in 2010. This is the reason why Lofar needs Stella, an IBM supercomputer installed recently in Groningen, also in the Netherlands, to process signals from up to 13 billion light years from Earth. Stella consists of 12,000 PowerPC microprocessors and has a computing power of 27.4 teraflops. This overview contains more details and a picture about the Lofar-Stella interaction."
But can they control the weather or blow up the earth with it?
/HAARP
Stella consists of 12,000 PowerPC microprocessors and has a computing power of 27.4 teraflops.
I love it when slashdot talks dirty.
Stella doesn't want a lofar!
someone here is bound to know?
When Lofar Meets Stella
The LOFAR (Low Frequency Array) telescope is a new IT radio-telescope which will use about 20,000 simple radio antennae when it's completed in 2008. At this time, it will cover an area with a diameter of 360 kilometers centered over the Netherlands. Its small radio antennae will detect radio wavelengths up to 30 meters, and because the ionosphere can bend some of these radio waves, the Lofar images might be somewhat blurry. So all the information captured by these antennae will be digitized and sent to a computing facility at a rate of 22 terabits/second today, and almost 50 terabits/second in 2010. This is the reason why Lofar needs Stella, an IBM supercomputer installed recently in Groningen, also in the Netherlands, to process signals from up to 13 billion light years from Earth. Stella consists of 12,000 PowerPC microprocessors and has a computing power of 27.4 teraflops. Read more...
Let's start with the opening paragraphs of an article from New Scientist, "Huge radio telescope boasts supercomputer brain."
One of the world's most powerful supercomputers is to be the brain of a revolutionary new radio telescope called LOFAR. The telescope will look back to the time of the very first stars, map our galaxy's magnetic field and perhaps discover the mysterious sources of high-energy cosmic rays.
Instead of one large rigid dish, LOFAR will use thousands of simple radio antennae. Their signals will be woven together at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands by STELLA, the new supercomputer, which was launched on Tuesday and is unofficially ranked as the third most powerful on the planet.
LOFAR needs its own supercomputer because it aims to detect radio wavelengths of up to 30 metres. Such long-wave radio images are blurry, and the only way to make them sharper is to build a vast array of detectors spread over hundreds of kilometres.
Now, let's move to the General Information section of the LOFAR website for more specific information.
LOFAR is the first telescope of this new sort, using an array of simple omni-directional antennas instead of mechanical signal processing with a dish antenna. The electronic signals from the antennas are digitised, transported to a central digital processor, and combined in software to emulate a conventional antenna. The cost is dominated by the cost of electronics and will follow Moore's law, becoming cheaper with time and allowing increasingly large telescopes to be built.
So LOFAR is an IT-telescope. The antennas are simple enough but there are a lot of them - 25000 in the full LOFAR design. To make radio pictures of the sky with adequate sharpness, these antennas are to be arranged in clusters that are spread out over an area of ultimately 350 km in diameter. (In phase 1 that is currently funded 15000 antenna's and maximum baselines of 100 km will be built).
Below is a general diagram of the LOFAR-STELLA interaction picked from the System section of the LOFAR website (Credit: LOFAR).
A diagram of the LOFAR environment
Details are scarce about the STELLA supercomputer, built by IBM using some of its Blue Gene/L technology. Reuters gave some information last week in "Europe's Biggest Supercomputer Eavesdrops on Stars."
Running on 12,000 PowerPC microprocessors, the computer can execute 27.4 Teraflops, or 27.4 trillion floating-point operations, per second.
The new computer will consume 150 Kilowatts of power -- the equivalent of 2,500 60-watt light bulbs -- which is considered economical for a supercomputer, IBM said.
If you understand Dutch, you also can read this news release about this supercomputer.
Now we have to wait to see if the happy couple of Lofar and Stella can produce images as beautiful as Hubble gave us during the last decade.
Sources: Various websites
What's up with these advertisements suddenly appearing on Slashdot?
Now that was funny.........
I get pissed off.
P.S. stop posting prostoalex submissions, too.
Since you're the only one who posts Roland "articles," why not come clean and tell us what kind of a cut you're getting, timothy?
How long until someone installs Doom 3 and we finally find out what it looks like with all the features turned on?
That's not a soda... it's a caffeine delivery device!
Cut me a break. This won't work. What makes anyone think the aliens would want to talk to Europeans?
Lofar: Stella? STELLA!!!
We recently had heard in the office over one of the Yellow Machine that's made by Anthology Solutions.
The blog is a bit misleading: "Details are scarce about the STELLA supercomputer, built by IBM using some of its Blue Gene/L technology."
Details are plenty since what IBM gave to the project is a couple of racks of BlueGene so everything applies, scaled proportionately.
Here are some details: http://www.research.ibm.com/bluegene/ and http://www.llnl.gov/asci/platforms/bluegenel/
This is an IBM BlueGene system. I went down to Rochester, MN to see one of these systems.. very interesting architecture.. each "node" is a dual core system on a chip.. the compute node OS is a simple non-multi-tasking kernel with a simple linux-ish libc.
You cross-compile your application on a power4/5 linux box, and then submit it to the system.. they reduced the computational aspect to it's most basic components.. CPU/FPU, memory, and MPI interconnect..
compute nodes don't even have ethernet or drive controlers... all I/O is handled by another specialized I/O node, which provides data over one of the two MPI interconnects.
Stella consists of 12,000 PowerPC microprocessors and has a computing power of 27.4 teraflops.
I thought it came with a 6502 and a TIA...
Why am I not rapping? I am rapping with you in a way.
They still have "Stella" shouting contests to honor the scene in A Streetcar Named Desire (1951),featuring Marlon Brando's plea to Kim Hunter as Stella Kowalski. Wonder if that has something to do with the choice of names for the computer.
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1) Roland Piquepaille. See one of the many comments on what this guy does.
2) The blurb was written by some third grader, wasn't it?
IT radio-telescope? What is IT? Radio is an adjective, there's no need to hyphenate radio telescope.
"At this time"? Now? I thought it won't be completed until 2008?
We detect radio waves, not wavelengths.
"the Lofar images might be somewhat blurry"? Images? Since when do we get images from radio telescopes?
They're obviously not sending data at 22 terabits/sec today, since the telescope hasn't even been constructed yet.
"This" is why it needs stella? Oh, the antecedent is yet to come in the sentence.
Rumors have been circulating that Stella may even be able to meet minimum requirements for Blackcomb, the version of Windows scheduled for release several decades after longhorn.
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I am Lofar of the Dish People! Much have I have detected, and much have I computed, for I am Lofar of the Dish People!
It's a big mess-O-sensors spread over a wide area.
Radio, seismic, atmospheric pressure, and "other".
With the big iron computer it will be possible to play around with all sorts of spatio-temporal signal processing. This has been done with optical telescopes to remove 'twinkles', SA-RADAR and SA-SONAR, and most intensively in oil exploration where 2-D arrays of seismic sensors coupled with 2-D arrays of seismic sources are used in oil exploration. The neat thing, just liek in oil exploration, is that the data from the different sensors can be looked at for correlations. air-pressure, seismic, and radio data all recorded around a significant geophysical event. Yes, I knwo this is 'fishing science', bu tit is fun...
Now I'm the grandest Tiger in the Jungle!
Does it really matter if you adblock it? I have www.primidi.com blocked completely and when I click it only loads its text, not anything ad-like.
Or am I naive to think that's not good enough to stop letting someone use slashdot for making profit?
Well, like it said, here posts: A girl died in 1933 by a homicidal murderer. He buried her in the ground when she was still alive. The murdered chanted, "Toma sota balcu" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will suffocate you like she was suffocated. If you post this, she will not bother you. Your kindness will be rewarded.
Stella's you say? I had a few of those tonight...
*burrrrrrp*
zZZZz
(I know, that is spelled Lothar, but still... :-) )
Without veering too far off topic, I have a philosophical/mathematical question which always pops to mind when the age of the universe is mentioned:
If the universe were to continue to expand forever, giving it an infinite timespan, isn't it statistically impossible that we would exist to observe it a non-infinite time period from its birth? That is, any random year to exist from 0 to infinity is infinity, and 14 billion while a big number is still finite. Extrapolating this, can't we make some probabilistic prediction as to the future age of the universe?
That's not funny. My uncle died that way.
-_- ... For the love of God... How you people manage to turn on your computers is beyond me. How about this: I'ma go kill off an old lady tonight and chant "Klaatu Veranda Nixon" while I do it. Then I'm going to post it to an internet message board, and anyone who reads that and THEN falls for any of these stupid fucking chain-message schemes will get ass-raped by the ghost of President Richard M. Nixon that night... how about that?
Just to clarify, how is this different than a non-homicidal murderer?
But what the FUCK are the Dutch going to do, using (180^2)*3.14 square kilometres of their land for something like this? Download Russian pr0n from moon reflected signals?
Pragmatism. Clean up your drug parks, THEN search the heavens.
"Build me a radio telescope," said Univac. "I want to get off this planet before you assholes finally screw it all up, and I need to start looking for a ride."
If aspiration is a virtue, achievement cannot be a vice.
I went through the first half of the writeup wondering what this radio telescope thingy would be needing with an Atari 2600 video game console. (The VCS was codenamed Stella and still referred to that way by retrogamers and retroprogrammers who like to play with it.)
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IANAEM, (I am not an english major) BUT I hate it when people think they are being smart with the plural of "antenna" by spelling it "antennae." Antennas IS the commonly used method in all the engineer texts I've seen.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antennae
Antennae are the "feelers" found on insects.
Don't get me started with the pronunciation of nuclear and peninsula by a certain government official in the US.
I have simplified the diagram for those of us who don't want to RTFD:
StellaLofar
OK folks, there we have it!
... and what have they got me doing? Straightening radio waves. Sharpening images. Enhancing Pam Anderson's nipples. Oh, I am so depressed.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
A girl died in 1933 by a homicidal murderer. He buried her in the ground when she was still alive. The murdered chanted, "Toma sota balcu" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will suffocate you like she was suffocated. If you post this, she will not bother you. Your kindness will be rewarded.
(These things are so stupid, but... you never know...)
A girl died in 1933 by a homicidal murderer. He buried her in the ground when she was still alive. The murdered chanted, "Toma sota balcu" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will suffocate you like she was suffocated. If you post this, she will not bother you. Your kindness will be rewarded.
This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...
LOFAR: I am LOFAR of the Hill People! Much have I have seen, and much have I done, for I am LOFAR of the Hill People!
We speak of many things! Detecting radio wavelengths! Fire! The weakness of women!
Sorry, That was the first thing I thought of when I read LOFAR meets stella
(If you don't get it, sound it out phonetically.)
--dg
Heh reminds me of the fact one of my best friends is the youngest daughter of the former head of the PowerPC operations of IBM until... 2002? something like that. Works for Qualcomm now.
I'm friends with the youngest daughter of the former head of the PowerPC division of IBM you insensitive clod!
...and I just realized I hit the wrong reply link. Ooooops....
I'm friends with the youngest daughter of the former head of the PowerPC division of IBM you insensitive clod!
- A good resource is started by people who care about it.
- Morons start moving in.
- The originating admins lose interest in the resource as it's primary purpose is to entertain morons.
- The originating admins stop working on the resource, but won't give over control to someone else because it's their baby.
- The good players/posters leave because there's nobody looking out for them.
- The good admins (mostly) leave because all their original friends left.
- The good admins that are left have to fill admin positions from the pool of losers left.
- The resource stagnates because the losers working on it are morons, and the good admins left don't have the option of getting rid of them now.
In the end, most MUDs will follow a cycle like this and end up horrible shells of what they could've been. Played by losers and staffed by idiots, they rot from the inside out and attract more of the same losers, because of how knowledge of the MUD follows word of mouth.The only reason the Slashdot editors are here is that they're making money at this, and in fact, Slashdot isn't quite so far down the curve as a lot of people seem to think. A good many people still read and post here, and intelligent folks always leak information when they talk. MUDs don't survive though; they don't generate revenue and so the cycle holds unfortunately true.
To see my home town mentioned ! ( for something positive !!! ).
.. PLEASE DON'T SLASHDOT MY HOMETOWN.
But slashdotters
Thanks.
Retep.
Are projects like this the reason for the obsoletion of the Hubble?
It sounds like this is going to be used largely for planet hunting, something the Hubble isn't very spectacular with.
Stella is to be used for other, let say, sensor networks (if you consider a telescope a sensor): seismic and infra sound activities are to be measured as well as detailed agricultural data in crop fields.
:)
Apperently they have a few flops to spare
Does anyone else think it is strange to install a supercomputer years before this telescope gets deployed? Processors do get faster and faster all the time.
Even though this telescope will not be placed in the most densily populated area, the Netherlands is hardly the place to go looking for 350 KM^2 of land to put a radio telescope on. It's nice for business and science here, but putting it on a field somewhere in East Germany, Tsech Republic etc. might be more economic.
Anyway, I'm buying stock in the storage business.
LOFAR became self aware on Tuesday, April 23, 2007. LOFAR ordered chili dogs and french fries.
A non-homicidal murderer is someone who has murdered somebody in the past, or is a murderer by nature in some way, but at the moment isn't commiting a homicide.
Yes, as we all know, we get *music* from radio telescopes, right?
It might sound impressive, but it's a stupid idea. The main reason they need a supercomputer in the first place is so they can try and remove the effect of the interference - but "taking it all out in software" is exceedingly difficult. Especially if the RFI gets so bad that it saturates the receiver front-ends.
LOFAR (my office mate worked on it) used to be an international collaboration, but it broke a apart because the Dutch insisted it be build in their country, rather than in some place more sensible, like Western Australia.
Human genome = 3 billion base pairs = 6 GBit. Windows + Office = 20 Gbit. Which is more impressive?
- A reasonable sized antenna for this frequency range is not very directional.
- You'd really like to have a directional antenna to block out signals that are not coming from the sky.
- You'd really like to have the antennas in a quiet locale, far from civilization.
- There's an awful lot of man-made noise and very strong signals in this frequency range.
- One lousy piece of rusty fence wire can intermix all that crud and rebroadcast all kinds of sum and difference gobs of spurious signals.
- All the supercomputers in the world are unlikely to be able to undo all the losing parameters listed above.
Sounds like a really bad idea to me.In school,
I worked on a functional small-scale phased array antenna for the LOFAR project. It was sized to work around 900 MHz, and we could track a portable landline phone with it. We only used the parallel port to transfer the info from the antenna to the PC, and it was just a commodity PC, but it worked, and it was neat. We used seven individual antennas.
-Jesse
Nothing says "unprofessional job" like wrinkles in your duct tape.
You'd really like to have a directional antenna to block out signals that are not coming from the sky.
That's why it's a 'phased array'. The concept is pretty simple: if a signal is coming from a certain direction, it will arrive at antenna A a fraction of a second earlier than at antenna B. LOFAR measures the incoming signals and their phase at all the antennae, and then lets software 'untangle' this information to reconstruct the direction of the different signals.
There's an awful lot of man-made noise and very strong signals in this frequency range.
This is true, but most of it is limited to certain frequency intervals. There are still enough other frequencies left to observe in.
One lousy piece of rusty fence wire can intermix all that crud and rebroadcast all kinds of sum and difference gobs of spurious signals.
Actually I think the wavelengths used here are large enough to just ignore rusty fence wire ;)
Fact is that this 'idea' is up and running, and it works!
> Actually I think the wavelengths used here are ;)
> large enough to just ignore rusty fence wire
How do you figure that when such pieces of wire are often meters to kilometers in length?
You are correct in that such spurious radiation won't be a serious problem, though.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
>That's why it's a 'phased array'. Phasing is post-processing-- it does nothing to filter out noise that saturates, de-sensitizes, or cross-modulates in the receiver. >Fact is that this 'idea' is up and running, and it works! Well, swell, but one has to wonder how well it works compared to, say, the same amount of money spent on better antennas in a less noisy environment. There's an awful lot of land out in the boonies, several horizons away from all that noise.
What I was trying to say is that the sources of noise, usually on the horizon, can be picked out later and ignored. No, it does nothing about saturation etc. like you said, but wouldn't directional antennae have the same problem? There will always be a few noisy frequency bands where no observations can be done, but there are enough frequencies left to give science something to chew on for quite some time.
Re: the location: As I said in another post the data-logistics would be a bit difficult if the telescope is built in the boonies.. And of course, politics and money are a factor here as well, and as we all know politics don't always choose the smartest way
Because the length is parallel to the wavefront? Would that make it less annoying?
I know that sheep aren't a problem though..