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Firefox 1.1 Boasts New Features

Distro Jockey writes "The Fedora Core Blog gives a review of the features we can expect from Firefox 1.1. Many uses have been running the latest trunk builds and seeing dramatic improvements in page rendering, managing many tabs quickly, and the much-anticipated fix for the /. layout bug. From the article: 'One major new feature in Firefox 1.1 is the "Sanitize" feature. This enables secure browsing with much more ease. Select the "Sanitize" option in the preferences and Firefox will scrub your profile of sensitive information (which you select in the preferences).'"

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  1. back/forward by Ark42 · · Score: 5, Informative


    And back/forward can cache the rendered layout instead of having to re-render everything: http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6 567

  2. If it's about what we can expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...it's called preview, not review.

  3. Re:What I'm curious about by Shook18 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I... have 6 tabs open right now and 29mb ram usage with the 1.1 release. Don't know if that is because the new release is so good, or yours is so bad, however.

  4. Re:What I'm curious about by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's why i switched to Opera. the ram usage and responsiveness of the interface is great. it took a little getting used to, but i use Opera on my windows machine, safari on my mac, and firefox in linux. granted i got opera for $20 with the edu pricing.

  5. Ridiculous by GarfBond · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't really so much a review as a description of features currently in the nightly. Firefox 1.1 isn't expected until June at the earliest. The roadmap (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.h tml) gives a rough overview of the timeframes involved right now, though it is not always accurate as it isn't updated frequently.

    Honestly, Firefox 1.1 isn't even in alpha-release yet. To take some highly unstable code and to "preview" it is a bit premature right now. I would call 1.1beta a better time to 'preview' things, as hopefully by then there will be a feature freeze and things will have stabilized a bit. I'm not kidding about the unstable bit either: up until a couple days ago themes and extensions wouldn't install in the nightly builds.

    In fact, an article like this does a disservice because it's misleading the /. crew. Yes, an incredibly fast back/forward feature has been checked in to the latest nightly builds, but what they won't tell you is at present this feature is DISABLED. While that doesn't mean it won't be enabled in the future and might be enabled for 1.1, as it stands this feature is off by default and only accessible through a custom pref, so in its current state it changes nothing for the average end-user.

    This forums post gives a better idea of the new features to be expected in 1.1 with one line sentences: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=2577 66

  6. Re:What I'm curious about by Ark42 · · Score: 5, Informative


    While it's true that the "Mem Usage" in task manager can easily show much more memory than the program is actually using, an minimizing a program will make this number drop, the number it drops to is still not the accurate memory usage figure. You really want to go to View/Select Columns and look at VM Size, not Mem Usage.
    VM Size is the actual amount of memory the program thinks it has, between whats swapped out and what is actually being used. Mem Usage can be higher than VM Size if memory was freed but not yet flushed by the OS, or it can be lower than VM Size if some memory hasn't been touched in a while and is swapped out to disk. Minimizing an application just gives Windows a hint that it should flush freed memory and swap out pages that have not been touched recently, which is why the Mem Usage figure drops when you do that.

  7. Re:Rendering Bug? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    How to evade referrer bans:
    1. right click link, "Copy link location"
    2. paste into URL bar
    3. press enter
    Warning: This is illegal in the United States under the DMCA.
  8. The REAL news: Firefox 1.03 remote .exe execution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative


    wait for the spyware slags get hold of this one
    full remote execution of an exe with no user interaction
    http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/397747/2005 -05-05/2005-05-11/0

    catching up with MSIE

  9. Some good and some bad by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Good:

    - Back/Forward Cache: Yes! Yes! Yes! This brings Firefox one step closer to the way I feel caching should be done. Back/forward should always pull pages from the cache (ignoring meta expire), and clicking links should always load the page from the server.

    - Interface speedups: Great news. I love Firefox's rendering power, but the UI is slow as hell. This should help.

    - Rendering errors fixed: More good news. While I can count the amount the number of times I've seen the Slashdot bug on my hands, better rendering is always a good thing.

    - Focus follows mouse: One of the best changes. I've had so many issues with the focus not being where it's supposed to be. For example, I'll switch to another window or tab, but the focus is usually still in the old one. If this gets fixed, I'll jump for joy.

    - Sanitise: More privacy == A Good Thing.

    The Bad:

    - Preferences tabs at the top: I hate having tabs at the top--I'd prefer them on the bottom (the sole reason I installed TabBrowser Extensions was to get the browser tabs to appear on the bottom), but I don't mind them on the left side. But having them on top is just horrible. It looks prettier on the left too, especially with my theme, which places an image of a gecko in the background of the left pane. I'm also worried that my theme won't work with 1.1--I've been using an old version of the theme, as the author made a change a while back that uglified the icons, defeating the purpose of the theme (the version I use only uses two colours in the icons...). Officially, my theme only supports up to 0.9, but I've hacked it to allow 1.0 to install it--if 1.1 has any major UI changes like this one, it may cause my theme to choke.

    - Live preferences: I hate these things with a passion. I like to be able to dick around in the preferences and not have to worry about screwing something up. It pissed me off to no end back when I used Galeon, and it'll piss me off in Firefox too. But, hey, I can tell that the Firefox devs have an agenda to screw up the preferences dialog as much as possible. They already moved it to the Edit menu a while back (WTF?), they already flipped the OK and Cancel buttons, and now they're adding these shitty changes too. If I wanted to use a browser with Gnome's horrible HIG, I'd use Epiphany.

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    1. Re:Some good and some bad by abulafia · · Score: 4, Informative
      Preferences tabs at the top: I hate having tabs at the top--I'd prefer them on the bottom

      Personally I agree with the hate, but not the placement - give them to me on the left or the right, and leave more vertical real estate. But see below.

      Live preferences: I hate these things with a passion... They already moved it to the Edit menu a while back (WTF?)

      I'd prefer no live prefs, too.

      But, the deal here is being consistent. They're trying to make the app work like other apps. So, the theory goes, even if they don't make your personal favorite UI choice, at least you know what it will do.

      The Edit->Preferences thing is a long standing Mac standard from the pre-OSX days. Back then, most apps followed it. The strength of the convention was most noticable when you used a Microsoft app, which hung them off of Tools->Options. If you haven't noticed, non-OSX MacOS is where a lot (but obviously not all) of Gnome's UI sensibilities come from.

      So, I generally agree with your behavioural preferences, and weirdos like you and me and always dick with the undisplayed options in the config file, fiddle with the chrome, etc.. Meanwhile, everyone else gets consistency. Which is a good thing.

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  10. Re:What I'm curious about by kbrosnan · · Score: 5, Informative

    bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131456 Memory use does not go down after closing tabs (resources not released) - Resolved:Fixed

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  11. Re:erm by kbrosnan · · Score: 4, Informative

    bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131456 Memory use does not go down after closing tabs (resources not released) Resolved:Fixed One of the many core changes that are going to be in Fx 1.1.

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  12. Re:What I'm curious about by Teja · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox's memory usage is part reason why I ditched it and went Opera mostly full time. (Of course, Opera's innovative features are hard to beat so that is why I mainly switched). Being on a really old machine, Firefox would often use 112 MB of RAM with only around two-four tabs open, now with Opera at that many tabs, It'd only use around 25 MB of RAM with the same pages open. When Firefox is started up with no pages open, it'd be around 21 MB of RAM or so, with Opera, it is only around 13-14.

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  13. Re:MOD PARENT UP (and another suggestion) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No need, in Firefox:

    1. Go to about:config
    2. Type "referer"
    3. Set network.http.sendRefererHeader to 0

  14. Re:Does the status line work properly now? by RotJ · · Score: 4, Informative
    Try hovering over a link in fark. It seems the text to display it is so complex, it overhwelms Firefox.

    I wouldn't call it overwhelming Firefox (nor would I call it overhwelming Firefox). You probably have Firefox set to disable javascript from changing the status bar text. If you enable having javascript change the status bar text in options > web features > Javascript Advanced or if you completely disable javascript, the links show up fine in the status bar.

    Fark formats its links like this:
    <a onMouseOver="w('http://www.planetark.com/dailynews story.cfm/newsid/30692/story.htm'); return true;" onMouseOut="c(); return true;" href="http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=147 5780&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetark.com%2 Fdailynewsstory.cfm%2Fnewsid%2F30692%2Fstory.htm" target=_blank>(Some Guy)</a>
    It uses onMouseOver to hide the click tracker from the status bar. The appropriate behavior for Firefox would be to show the actual url the link points to when you disable status bar text changing, so it's still broken.
  15. Re:Acid2 by kbrosnan · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2005/0 4/acid2.html

    There's been lots of speculation about which browser will get Acid2 working first. I'd put my money on Safari. The problem is that we're late in the Gecko 1.8/Firefox 1.1 release cycle and there are a couple of bugs that would be quite a lot of work to fix, and introduce significant risk, and they're just not as important as other work that we have long planned for 1.8 and some other strategic work that I'll blog about soon. We will get to it in 1.9.

    I'm sure some will seize on this as an opportunity to say "Gecko developers don't care about standards" ... they're simply wrong, as anyone can tell by looking at the huge number of standards compliance bugs we fix in every release. And keep in mind that if everyone's #1 priority was always standards compliance, Firefox would never have happened. -Roc

    Part 2
    Use about:config to modify browser.download.manager.showAlertOnComplete
    http://mozillazine.org/misc/about:config/

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  16. Re:/. bug by CTho9305 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The validity of the HTML is irrelevant - the bug was a type of bug known as a "reflow bug". Reflow bugs are timing-dependant, in that they only occur when things happen in a certain order. This is a large part of why people with fast connections were less affected by the bug. You could likely construct a page with 100% valid XHTML which would demonstrate the same bug.