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Chronicles of Narnia Trailer
Ant writes "After United States' broadcast debut of the "Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" trailer on Saturday, May 7th during ABC's network premiere of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets", Ain't It Cool News posted AOL's link to the QuickTime movie (direct link to download the 56 MB high quality trailer file)." Fix yourself some turkish delight and enjoy.
Anybody else get a little creeped out by the possibility that alot of what CS Lewis was doing with his fantasy writings was really Christian propaganda? I know this sounds terribly like a troll, but it's honestly not meant that way.
I originally liked the stories as a kid, but then I read The Screwtape Letters, and while I thought it was a neat exercise in combining Christian morality with fiction (the story is about one devil advising another devil on how to corrupt a soul), I also got the vague feeling that CS Lewis was out to manipulate the readers. Then THAT got me thinking that maybe he might be trying to do that with a lot more than just TSL...
Anyways, just wondering.
I remembered being in grade school and watching the movie and craving to try Turkish Delight. Well we had a "party" one time in class and one of the teachers brought it in. It was disgusting! So much for childhood dreams... As you can see, it's mainly just water, sugar and corn starch (corn flour).
Anyways, here's a link to the recipe for those that are interested.
Ingredients:
1lt (1¾ Pints) Water
900g (2lb) Sugar
285g (10oz) Corn Flour
225g (8oz) Icing Sugar
1½ tbsp Rosewater
2 tsp Lemon Juice
Red Food Colouring (optional)
[some] Nerds like Tolkien. Tolkien and Lewis were part of the same gang of lit nerds in Oxford. Therefore Lewis is [somewhat] similar to Tolkien. Therefore Lewis has [some] nerd interest.
Anyway, it's a news item about a new fantasy flick. I think that's nerdular enough. I was glad to see the article.
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You'd think they could figure out it's a linux box not a mac. I guess they just assume since it's not windows it must be a mac.
I'm also sick and tired of browsing through javascript trying to figure out exactly what the link to the actual file is that doesn't plugin correctly. Mplayer deals with the file fine, but the page won't tell me what the URL of the stream is.
Anyone have a torrent up?
Tharkban (It is a signature after all)
Mods: How on earth can a question be "informative"?
garethw
Fans of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia should also look for the work of the other authors that were in the same writing group at Oxford with those two. My favorite is G.K. Chesterton, but there is also Charles Williams and Dorothy Sayers.
No, that was Arthur C. Clarke, you idiot.
C.S.Lewis did write some "science fiction", but it was horribly inaccurate in all sorts of details, and like most of his writings it was a religious tract dressed up as a story.
Now that worked brilliantly with the Narnia stories, but in his science fiction (That Hideous Strength) it did not.
Incidentally, while I'm not even remotely religious, I think that his best writing was The Screwtape Letters. They're entertaining and they show his deep understanding of human nature.
--- These are not words: wierd, genious, rediculous
Yeah, I read "Disney" and groaned. But I watched the trailer and didn't catch Eddie Murphy or Gilbert Gottfried anywhere and Narnia certainly isn't musical fodder, so... it looks more like they're trying to cash in on the current LotR frenzy. Box office has proven people want Big Epic Fantasy, and despite the overt religious themes, Narnia is exactly that. It's Big, it's Epic, and it's Fantasy. In a lot of cases (at least in my home skool district), it was the first fantasy novel(s) read by many, many children. I was reading Voyage of the Dawn Treader while I was still building Construx forts for my Star Wars action figures. Hopefully Narnia makes a decent transition to the big screen, but from the trailer it looks like they're focusing on everything they think made LotR a huge success (eg battle, battle, battle - gods that shit bores the hell out of me. Has since The Phantom Menace).
I never got around to reading LotR - I was completely turned off by all the singing and poetry in The Hobbit and figured there'd be more of it in the trilogy... and I found Sci-Fi to be a hell of a lot more interesting (at least until the rack at Barnes and Nobel started to look more like a bad collection of Heavy Metal cover art)...
If they don't screw it up, they can easily cash in on film adaptations of the rest of the series - there's quite a lot of material to work with.
That's like complaining that the Fountainhead seems to promote individualism, or 1984 seems down on totalitarianism, or that Mein Kampf seems a touch racist. It's the goal of the author, and it's not hidden.
He's not out to "manipulate", he's out to convert, and then to improve the behavior of the converted. That might be the same thing as manipulation in the books of many folks, and I can definitely see how you wouldn't want that out of a fantasy series...
But honestly, CS Lewis pretty much wrote Christian propaganda, books on why he's not an atheist, etc...
It's just like complaining that when you went walking in the rain you got wet, is all.
If Disney ends up filming each of the Chronicles, how do they manage to continuity? The characters are going to grow up and the boys' voices will predicibly change before they can film the prequels. Or are they going to hire different actors, breaking continuity.
I imagine it was a business decision. Everyone's heard of "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" but "The Magician's Nephew" might not be as well known.
Overall, I'd say the trailer shows promise, though.
Quicktime 6.5.1 for Windows says: couldn't open the file, because the filename was bad. Well... appearently Apple programmer's just can't handle files as: chroniclesofnarniathelionthewitchandthewardrobethe _trlr_01_high_dl.mov
Yikes... bad sense at humor at AOL ! Of course changing the file name to a.mov does not the trick.
Dorothy L Sayers shouldn't be mentioned in the same paragraph. When she was advised that a character in one of her books could be taken as anti-Semitic, she promptly started to write in positive but not over-signalled Jewish characters.
I mention this because one thing that does stand out about the writings of CSL is that, like Sayers, he was a Christian but not a fundamentalist bigot - he was too well educated, well connected and well read for that. In his adult science fiction he started to play with the idea that Christianity was a partial revelation, and that the battle between good and evil was going on in other civilisations elsewhere in the universe. It's a pity he got over mystical and started to bring in the Arthurian legends, because there is stuff in That Hideous Strength which to my mind spoils the book. But I guess no-one will make a film of it anyway, because it is anti-corporatist, anti-Statist and proposes that a small group of activists can and should employ rather violent means to defeat a technocratic dictatorship. In fact, if the Department of Homeland Security is reading this, you might want to investigate who has been reading That Hideous Strength. They might be potential terrorists.
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
and in spite of the usual low budge BBS production, those shows, (LW&W, Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader and Silver Chair) were all fantastic. With the exception on the city under the sea n dawn treader, I don't think they took any liberties with C.S. Lewis' books at all.... I am sure that DIsney wil not be as kind. Disney, the Politically correct mass marketting machine, producing what are essentially extended metaphors for Christian beliefs. I can't wait until it comes out to see how they butcher it. I am sure that Peter will not kill the wolf, (a child, kill?) I wonder how they will explain the magic deeper than the deep magic that states that if a willing victim gives his life, death will be defeated. OUtta be interesting.
I reject your reality
Nope, only four. Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy. There are two other characters that join in later books, maybe thats what your thinking of.
That's a valuable lesson, you have to use the British tastiness scale, which is a lot different than normal people's.
Mmmm, steak and kidney and liver and entrail pie....
The League of Concerned Satanists will no doubt lambast this movie as Christian propaganda, due to its thinly veiled allegory.
English is easier said than done.
The other day on the radio they were discussing Narnia, and how it appears as though it's Disney's big attempt to revitalize itself in the movie industry. They're putting more money into it than any movie they've ever done, and some of the higher-ups at Disney have said they're expecting it to work for the company similar to how The Little Mermaid did.
If you compare it to any other Disney live action movie, none of the others come even close in terms of scope, story, budget, costume design, sets, CGI, etc. They're putting a lot on this movie.
Since both my wife and I are big fans of Lewis (my wife even more so), I hope Disney's gamble pays off. There's word that they're hoping they can do additional stories from the book series, which makes sense if the movie is profitable.
As for the few people that complain about it being a movie about Christianity, who really cares? Even though I'm considered a "Christian conservative", I still enjoy movies about other religions and cultures. They're not trying to hide what the story is really about, and there's people out there that actually ENJOY movies about Christianity (see the success of Passion of the Christ for an example). Just get off your anti-religious podium for a second and try thinking about it as just a story, similar to how some colleges will read portions of The Bible or Paradise Lost.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. --Winston Churchill
It's only natural to confuse them, since Lewis and Clarke did so much exploring together. :)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Well that's pretty suspicious. Sounds like they stole code.
...on the chance that this is not a troll, but code analysis a la Laura DiDio (SCO shrill). MPC is a thin GUI layer calling system-wide codecs to decode video. One of the inputs is presumably the file name, which the .mov decoder doesn't handle correctly. So they fail because they call on the exact same code, code that it is fully legal for MPC to call on.
Kjella
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"In a world of peace, four children are sent to a strange house, where they find a portal to another world of perpetual snow and talking animals."
*Cue gratuitous beaver shot*
"My word, Sons of Adam and Daughters of Eve! Come in and and have tea!"
Four children clash hands together and shout "Talking Beavers! Excellent!"
But then one encounters a mysterious woman:
"Yes, dear boy. I am an evil witch! You can tell by my impeccable manners and cut-glass English accent!"
"Uh oh!"
"Like some Turkish Delight?"
"Are they like Hershey Bars?"
"Yes, but not quite as evil and low carb as well"
To be continued...
*sigh*
Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question