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Chronicles of Narnia Trailer
Ant writes "After United States' broadcast debut of the "Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" trailer on Saturday, May 7th during ABC's network premiere of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets", Ain't It Cool News posted AOL's link to the QuickTime movie (direct link to download the 56 MB high quality trailer file)." Fix yourself some turkish delight and enjoy.
Here's disney's formula
- annoying animal sidekick
- fast paced animation
- slapstick humor
- no matter how historical the theme, bring it up to date with some uncalled for topical humor
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It's a SFF book. Nerds like SFF, haven't you heard?
The Braying and Neighing of Barnyard Animals Follows.
Anybody else get a little creeped out by the possibility that alot of what CS Lewis was doing with his fantasy writings was really Christian propaganda? I know this sounds terribly like a troll, but it's honestly not meant that way.
I originally liked the stories as a kid, but then I read The Screwtape Letters, and while I thought it was a neat exercise in combining Christian morality with fiction (the story is about one devil advising another devil on how to corrupt a soul), I also got the vague feeling that CS Lewis was out to manipulate the readers. Then THAT got me thinking that maybe he might be trying to do that with a lot more than just TSL...
Anyways, just wondering.
I remembered being in grade school and watching the movie and craving to try Turkish Delight. Well we had a "party" one time in class and one of the teachers brought it in. It was disgusting! So much for childhood dreams... As you can see, it's mainly just water, sugar and corn starch (corn flour).
Anyways, here's a link to the recipe for those that are interested.
Ingredients:
1lt (1¾ Pints) Water
900g (2lb) Sugar
285g (10oz) Corn Flour
225g (8oz) Icing Sugar
1½ tbsp Rosewater
2 tsp Lemon Juice
Red Food Colouring (optional)
[some] Nerds like Tolkien. Tolkien and Lewis were part of the same gang of lit nerds in Oxford. Therefore Lewis is [somewhat] similar to Tolkien. Therefore Lewis has [some] nerd interest.
Anyway, it's a news item about a new fantasy flick. I think that's nerdular enough. I was glad to see the article.
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You'd think they could figure out it's a linux box not a mac. I guess they just assume since it's not windows it must be a mac.
I'm also sick and tired of browsing through javascript trying to figure out exactly what the link to the actual file is that doesn't plugin correctly. Mplayer deals with the file fine, but the page won't tell me what the URL of the stream is.
Anyone have a torrent up?
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I actually feel cheated by this. I really looked forward to reading the Chronicles to my own children one day. I guess I'll still be able to, but they'll probably see the movie somewhere first and the magic will be gone from the words.
Fans of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia should also look for the work of the other authors that were in the same writing group at Oxford with those two. My favorite is G.K. Chesterton, but there is also Charles Williams and Dorothy Sayers.
No, that was Arthur C. Clarke, you idiot.
C.S.Lewis did write some "science fiction", but it was horribly inaccurate in all sorts of details, and like most of his writings it was a religious tract dressed up as a story.
Now that worked brilliantly with the Narnia stories, but in his science fiction (That Hideous Strength) it did not.
Incidentally, while I'm not even remotely religious, I think that his best writing was The Screwtape Letters. They're entertaining and they show his deep understanding of human nature.
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I thought it was Arthur C. Clark who had the idea for geo-stationary satellites...hence the "Clark Belt."
It's "no one," not "noone." Who the hell is noone anyway?
Traditionally (AFAIK), Turkish Delight comes with both red and green shapes (frequently just squares). I kinda like it, but it's an older candy froma a time when not everything had corn syrup in it.
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true, the trilogy of "science fiction" novel he wrote should really be referred to as fantasy - probably something like "theological fantasy" at that. Just because it involves other planets, does not mean it has to be called SciFi - but people do that anyways.
That's like complaining that the Fountainhead seems to promote individualism, or 1984 seems down on totalitarianism, or that Mein Kampf seems a touch racist. It's the goal of the author, and it's not hidden.
He's not out to "manipulate", he's out to convert, and then to improve the behavior of the converted. That might be the same thing as manipulation in the books of many folks, and I can definitely see how you wouldn't want that out of a fantasy series...
But honestly, CS Lewis pretty much wrote Christian propaganda, books on why he's not an atheist, etc...
It's just like complaining that when you went walking in the rain you got wet, is all.
Hi,
My favorite is G.K. Chesterton,
I agree. I may disagree with a lot of what he said (he was a staunch Catholic, I'm not even Christian), but he was one sharp writer. For people who don't want to spend money before having a chance to review his work, click here.
Bye,
Ori
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If Disney ends up filming each of the Chronicles, how do they manage to continuity? The characters are going to grow up and the boys' voices will predicibly change before they can film the prequels. Or are they going to hire different actors, breaking continuity.
I imagine it was a business decision. Everyone's heard of "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" but "The Magician's Nephew" might not be as well known.
Overall, I'd say the trailer shows promise, though.
Quicktime 6.5.1 for Windows says: couldn't open the file, because the filename was bad. Well... appearently Apple programmer's just can't handle files as: chroniclesofnarniathelionthewitchandthewardrobethe _trlr_01_high_dl.mov
Yikes... bad sense at humor at AOL ! Of course changing the file name to a.mov does not the trick.
Dorothy L Sayers shouldn't be mentioned in the same paragraph. When she was advised that a character in one of her books could be taken as anti-Semitic, she promptly started to write in positive but not over-signalled Jewish characters.
I mention this because one thing that does stand out about the writings of CSL is that, like Sayers, he was a Christian but not a fundamentalist bigot - he was too well educated, well connected and well read for that. In his adult science fiction he started to play with the idea that Christianity was a partial revelation, and that the battle between good and evil was going on in other civilisations elsewhere in the universe. It's a pity he got over mystical and started to bring in the Arthurian legends, because there is stuff in That Hideous Strength which to my mind spoils the book. But I guess no-one will make a film of it anyway, because it is anti-corporatist, anti-Statist and proposes that a small group of activists can and should employ rather violent means to defeat a technocratic dictatorship. In fact, if the Department of Homeland Security is reading this, you might want to investigate who has been reading That Hideous Strength. They might be potential terrorists.
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and in spite of the usual low budge BBS production, those shows, (LW&W, Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader and Silver Chair) were all fantastic. With the exception on the city under the sea n dawn treader, I don't think they took any liberties with C.S. Lewis' books at all.... I am sure that DIsney wil not be as kind. Disney, the Politically correct mass marketting machine, producing what are essentially extended metaphors for Christian beliefs. I can't wait until it comes out to see how they butcher it. I am sure that Peter will not kill the wolf, (a child, kill?) I wonder how they will explain the magic deeper than the deep magic that states that if a willing victim gives his life, death will be defeated. OUtta be interesting.
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Nope, only four. Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy. There are two other characters that join in later books, maybe thats what your thinking of.
Get the kind with pistachias in it. Yummy.
evil is as evil does
That's a valuable lesson, you have to use the British tastiness scale, which is a lot different than normal people's.
Mmmm, steak and kidney and liver and entrail pie....
Peter, Susan, Lucy, and Edmund are in LW&W, IIRC. Some additional children appear in later books in the series, but not in the first one.
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
In the Narnian Chronicles there was Lucy (the first in the wardrobe), Edmund (the second-youngest, who betrayed them and resulted in the death of Aslan), Susan (the second-oldest, who once she left narnia ultimately turned away from believing in it), and Peter (the oldest).
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I read it when I was little and then I tried rereading it.
Bad idea there.
The prose is horribly dry. It's written for children - not young adults - children. The spirit of the books is laid out plain as day and easy to see, because the audience is children. To get the same feeling into a movie, all they'd have to do is not change it very much.
Of course, it won't actually be the same as the spirit of the words in your memory or in mine. It'll be what was actually there, which, unfortunately, is much less grand.
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I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Disney had no problem distributing The Incredibles, which does not play as a Saturday morning cartoon.
Executing believers is "hard line". Jokes implying that believers are deluded are not.
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Lewis wrote space sci-fi as well, try reading Out of the Silent Planet and the rest of that trilogy.
Doesn't that make him a nerdy author ?
I was noticing that too. The book actually describes lucy as curiously looking into it, and then having to hide in it when she hears the person who is IT coming into the room.
The League of Concerned Satanists will no doubt lambast this movie as Christian propaganda, due to its thinly veiled allegory.
English is easier said than done.
The other day on the radio they were discussing Narnia, and how it appears as though it's Disney's big attempt to revitalize itself in the movie industry. They're putting more money into it than any movie they've ever done, and some of the higher-ups at Disney have said they're expecting it to work for the company similar to how The Little Mermaid did.
If you compare it to any other Disney live action movie, none of the others come even close in terms of scope, story, budget, costume design, sets, CGI, etc. They're putting a lot on this movie.
Since both my wife and I are big fans of Lewis (my wife even more so), I hope Disney's gamble pays off. There's word that they're hoping they can do additional stories from the book series, which makes sense if the movie is profitable.
As for the few people that complain about it being a movie about Christianity, who really cares? Even though I'm considered a "Christian conservative", I still enjoy movies about other religions and cultures. They're not trying to hide what the story is really about, and there's people out there that actually ENJOY movies about Christianity (see the success of Passion of the Christ for an example). Just get off your anti-religious podium for a second and try thinking about it as just a story, similar to how some colleges will read portions of The Bible or Paradise Lost.
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It's only natural to confuse them, since Lewis and Clarke did so much exploring together. :)
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Well that's pretty suspicious. Sounds like they stole code.
...on the chance that this is not a troll, but code analysis a la Laura DiDio (SCO shrill). MPC is a thin GUI layer calling system-wide codecs to decode video. One of the inputs is presumably the file name, which the .mov decoder doesn't handle correctly. So they fail because they call on the exact same code, code that it is fully legal for MPC to call on.
Kjella
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"In a world of peace, four children are sent to a strange house, where they find a portal to another world of perpetual snow and talking animals."
*Cue gratuitous beaver shot*
"My word, Sons of Adam and Daughters of Eve! Come in and and have tea!"
Four children clash hands together and shout "Talking Beavers! Excellent!"
But then one encounters a mysterious woman:
"Yes, dear boy. I am an evil witch! You can tell by my impeccable manners and cut-glass English accent!"
"Uh oh!"
"Like some Turkish Delight?"
"Are they like Hershey Bars?"
"Yes, but not quite as evil and low carb as well"
To be continued...
*sigh*
Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
You misunderstand.
When you are criticizing a movie vaguely, you implicitly have an outcome that you would prefer in mind. Specifically, make a better movie. Generally, your specific criticisms point to how you would improve it; if you complain the directing is poor, you have this idea of what better directing would be. You may not be able to do it yourself, but you know you've seen it. Artistic criticism rarely falls under this.
The topic at hand is one of those rare instances, since the criticism boils down to "CS Lewis shouldn't be true to himself when he writes" (or at least that's what I'm trying to convince you of), and my point is that there is not an acceptable alternative to that. If CS Lewis had tried to write non-Christian books, that contained a worldview he did not share... well, the person I replied to would never have had an opportunity to criticize, because he'd have never heard of CS Lewis.
(Another artistic example I've seen is when people criticize a movie not for being what it is, but for not being what the author thought it should be; my canonical example of that is this review of Monsters, Inc. in Salon, where the author spends most of it bitching that the movie wasn't "darker". He didn't like Monsters, Inc. not because it was poorly directed, or in fact even a poor movie, but because it wasn't some other completely different movie. Uh, excuse me? This is a little less egregiously wrong since it is at least possible to make the change, unlike a single author which can hardly change his worldview to write one book, but still, it's hardly fair to call that a review of Monsters, Inc... it's more a review of this movie that the reviewer has in their head but none of the rest of us have seen. False labelling, at the least.)
This comes up much more in the political arena, where I apply it much more aggressively. When somebody shrieks about some opposition plan, you need to have a better one to get my attention. Simple negativity is pointless. Sometimes that better plan may even be "do nothing, what you believe is a problem isn't", but still, that may be a better plan. (The party itself often has a "better plan", but the individuals and random people on the street are often just pointlessly critical.)
The real thing I'm getting at here isn't the idea that you shouldn't criticize, it's that when you don't even have a feasible alternative, what's the point? You're just being pointlessly negative (except perhaps in certain teaching situations). What's the point of criticizing somebody who already did the least bad thing they could possibly do, if they had no good choices? (Which isn't what I believe the situation is with CS Lewis, but I suspect describes the original poster's point. What's the alternative that works for CS Lewis?)
British stereotype: Kidney pie (what it sounds like)
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British stereotype: Black pudding (I'm not typing it, I just ate and want to keep my food down.)
Have you eaten either of these things?
Kidneys are a prefectly eatable part of an animal, and a good Steak & Kidney pie is a great pleasure (although you should probably avoid cheap frozen/chilled supermarket pies on your first attempt).
A good black pudding is a joy. Try it.
I think British cooking went into decline after World War II, and people lost pride in the classics -- but there are classics, and if done well, they are delicious.
If you're actually interested in classic British cooking, look at the books of Gary Rhodes, a well respected chef who champions traditional English dishes.
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Wow! How did you do that? : )
You can't take the sky from me...
Tolkien and Lewis were good pals to my knowledge.
Wetta, the shop created by Peter Jackson for Lord Of The Rings, based in New Zealand, is the special effects and costume company Disney employed to do Narnia.
That's why is looks a lot like LOTR.
[Turkish Delight] was disgusting. ... Anyways, here's a link to THE recipe for those that are interested. (emphasis added)
I think that underscores a common falicy of our day. Saying that there is *one* recipe for a confection that dates back 2000+ years is preposterous, bordering on absurd. There are as many different recipies for Turkish delight as there are grandmas in the Middle East. (Actually, strike that - Mid East grandmas don't need a recipe.) Shucks, even the Joy of Cooking gives at least two.
Conceptually, T.D. is congealed fruit paste. (Think extra thick jelly.) The thickener can be corn starch, but traditionally it's pectin, and some recipes use gelitain. And while Rose and Lemon is one traditional flavor combination, there isn't any limit to it, you could do others.
You might have found one recipe disgusting, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't like others. Without more details, it's hard to say what you ate.
To each his own, but I actually love rose and lemon Turkish delight. Probably the best non-chocolate confection I've had. (The rose flavor is probably an aquired taste - there isn't much precident for it in western cuisine.)
I'm sorry but it seems as though Narnia doesn't believe in dust. Everything in the trailer appears squeeky clean. One thing I particularly enjoyed about the Lord of the Rings was that pieces were dated well and you could honestly believe that this is something that exists in reality.
Frankly there's no way an old British woman and four children could keep that house perfectly dusted.
Furthermore, what's with the horrible choice of colors? I've never seen so many primary and secondary colors used in costume and set design in my life. If Narnia is so primitive, technologically, wouldn't it make sense that they would have to use natural dyes--frankly you can't get colors that perfect from natural dye.
Disney just isn't selling it.