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Sun to Acquire Tarantella

SunFan writes "Sun announced that they will acquire Tarantella Inc., who were the original SCO before selling their operating system to Caldera. Another write-up with more historical detail is at SunHELP. Apparently, Sun is after the Secure Global Desktop products, which might fit into their SunRay strategy."

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  1. wtf???? by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original SCO (decent guys) are now called Tarantella, which are apparently being bought by sun.

    The evil people used to be Caldera. They bought the SCO *name* and tarnished it.

    Haven't you been paying attention? The original SCO never sold their souls, they just sold their name.

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    1. Re:wtf???? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There is no evidence whatsoever that Caldera bought the 'sco' name. NONE.

      They bought some assets from oldSCO (Santa Cruz Operation). What was left of oldSCO became Tarentella.

      Later, the newSCO was created (the SCO Group).

      Those naming machinations are obviously working on confusing the general public (ie, future jurors).

      Just imagine how confused a juror could be if SUN buys the newSCO.

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  2. SCO is always up to something by Evets · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You have to imagine that they are after intellectual property beyond what is on the surface. Could it be that Caldera didn't get all of the rights that SCO thought they did?

    1. Re:SCO is always up to something by halivar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone is talking about how "great" this is, since Sun now has the capability to possibly disprove a number of SCO's theories in the IBM case. These people forget the $50 million cash infusion Sun made early on into SCO/Caldera, and the continuing war of words Schwartz continues to wage on Linux.

      And while I'm not putting on any tin-foil hats just yet, I would not be surprised to find Sun leveraging it's psoition as a predecessor-in-interest to SCO/Caldera (having just purchased another predecessor-in-interest, SCO/Tarentella) as a way to throw a monkey-wrench into IBM's (apparent) plans to dominate the UNIX market with Linux.

      OO.o is an incredible gesture, but I just can't seem to get to trust Sun just yet.

    2. Re:SCO is always up to something by jschrod · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Can you please explain how Sun is a "predecessor-in-interest to SCO/Caldera"?

      They bought perpetual rights to Unix from SCO/Caldera, but did not buy the company.

      And if you thing that OO.o is the only Open Source activity that Sun funds, open your eyes. GNOME, SunSITEs, just to name the most prominent. That Schwarz is a jerk when it comes to GPL is no argument for an anti-OSS gesture, many BSD folks are likewise. It's not that we haven't our own heated flamewars on licenses and how free they are. If you don't believe me, subscribe to debian-legal...

      And, in case my `prejudice' matters: I'm no Sun employee. I neither use OO.o nor GNOME; LaTeX and fvwm is just fine for me. I do use Solaris systems, but only in mission-critical HA environments. OSS is not of much interest there, yet, sadly.

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    3. Re:SCO is always up to something by ratsg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sun didn't give money to SCO to fight linux. Sun gave money to SCO for rights to allow the open sourcing of Solaris.

    4. Re:SCO is always up to something by halivar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Can you please explain how Sun is a "predecessor-in-interest to SCO/Caldera"? They bought perpetual rights to Unix from SCO/Caldera, but did not buy the company.

      SCO/Tarentella used to own the rights. Sun bought that company. That also means they bought all rights and responsibilities of SCO/Tarentella, including the contract conveying copyrights to SCO/Caldera. For all legal intents and purposes, they are SCO/Tarentella now.

    5. Re:SCO is always up to something by jschrod · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Which "contract conveying copyrights to SCO/Caldera"? Novell still owns these copyrights; that SCO/Caldera says otherwise in its PR notwithstanding.

      Your hypothesis about Sun wanting to get into the IBM/SCO struggle on the side of SCO with that buy-in, is not even sensible with a tin-foil hat.

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  3. Gratuitous Strong Bad by dsginter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Band Names

    Taranchula!

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    1. Re:Gratuitous Strong Bad by CleverNickedName · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Tarantella dance is named after the Tarantula spider.

      Unlike snakes, a spider's short fangs only allow it to inject poison into the human victim's skin. Luckily for us, this makes it possible to sweat out the poison before it gets into the blood stream.
      A hot, sweaty, energetic dance such as the Tarantella is a great way to stay alive in such a situation. Also, if it fails, at least you'll die in a sexy, dramatic way.

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  4. The announcement and links by davecb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sun announced plans to acquire Tarantella, Inc., a leading provider of secure application access software based in Santa Cruz, CA. [...] Sun plans to use Tarantella technology to provide customers with a higher level of secure mobile access to data and applications.

    As part of the agreement, Sun will acquire the Secure Global Desktop family of products, which enables organizations to access and manage information, data, and applications across virtually all devices, networks, and platforms [...]

    The software employs a flexible and secure three-tier architecture deployed on Solaris OS or Linux. Secure Global Desktop enables applications to be displayed using native protocols without the need for specialized software - a Web browser and Java technology is all that's necessary on the client device or application server.[...]

    Most importantly, the software will enable you to present a variety of applications on Sun Ray thin clients -- including those written to Microsoft Windows.

    Jonathan Schwartz comments at Acquistions Accelerate Microsoft Interoperability
    Tarentella is here

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  5. Slashdot to Acquire Dictionary by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nuff said..

  6. Its all a cunning ploy by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are going to mate with SUN and then bite its head off.

    oh wait, they are not really spider people are they.

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  7. Re:memories by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    So let me get this straight.

    Santa Creuz Group which origionally Produced SCOUnix Were a good bunch of people.

    Then became Tarantella which is the same group of people.
    Which sold their Unix to Caldara who was at the time a Linux Company thus a Good Company.

    In some ways the combination of Unix mixed Linux in one company has turned them evil and twisted so they changed their name from the progressive Caldara to the evil SCO.

    Now Terantella (Who was origionally stated as good) which was the Origional SCO got bought by Sun Microsystems who is Quazi-Evil and Quazi-Good So will that make Sun more evil or make Sun good. Because it seems whenever you combine two groups of good you get evil.

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  8. Re:Sun SCO License by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Informative
    They already bought one from the Scumsucking Crackhead Organization: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1024633.html
    A previously secret licensee of SCO Group's Unix intellectual property has revealed its identity: Unix leader Sun Microsystems.

    SCO's Unix licensing plan got a major boost of publicity in May when Microsoft announced its decision to license Unix from SCO, but Sun actually was the first company to sign on. SCO and Sun confirmed the licensing deal on Wednesday.
    The pact, signed earlier this year, expanded the rights Sun acquired in 1994 to use Unix in its Solaris operating system. But there's more to the relationship: SCO also granted Sun a warrant to buy as many as 210,000 shares of SCO stock at $1.83 per share as part of the licensing deal, according to a regulatory document filed Tuesday.
    Sun and Microsoft gave enough money for SCO to survive while it ramped up its own FUD campaign ... this also gave it time and enough "street cred" to arrange, with the help of a senior VP at Microsoft, for the PIPE deal that gave SCO an additional $50 million. If it weren't for these 3 deals, SCO would be a caldera (a smoking crater).

    This is one of several reasons why the people who have been following the whole SCO/IBM thing are so pissed at both Sun and Microsoft.

  9. good move by garvald · · Score: 5, Interesting

    forget all this nonsence about unix rights. Its not about that. The Secure Global Desktop system is something we've had in production at my workplace for a few years now, and its a great system, similar to VNC, but on a much higher level. I've tested it on sunrays with sun IT execs and they were througoughly impressed. The acquisition therefore comes as no surprise. SGD is also much cheaper than Citrix and is rapidly expanding. In my console, which i run on gentoo, i have very quick access to win2003, the SGD management console, Gnome, KDE, and many other apps. I think this is much more valuable than some never ending court battle creating bad PR. Sun aint after that.

  10. Does this mean... by jav1231 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this mean Sun is kickin' it old SCO?

  11. Re:New SCO, old SCO, what's the diff? by CapeBretonBarbarian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Amen. It amazes me how so many people see conspiracies when there is a simple explanation right there in the open. Sun needed to ensure that they were in the clear with their Solaris-Unix license.

    As for the Tantella acquisition, that's clearly to get Tarantella's Citrix like software in a bid to drive down the cost of delivering legacy windows applications on the SunRay platform. No conspiracy here. Just a good business decision with no hidden agendas.

  12. Re:FIRST SUN SUCK POST by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're going to bash Sun, at least do it properly.

    Sun Microsystems are the people responsible for OpenOffice.org. Recently I acquired an AMD 64-bit workstation. I have been trying to get OpenOffice.org to compile on this thing.

    It ain't having it. Not even the CVS version I checked out.

    I know all about the "32-bit chroot" way of doing it. It's an ugly solution, like teaching a cat to bark. I've paid for a 64-bit processor, for crying out loud -- and I'm damned if I'm going to have it run on half its cylinders.

    But OpenOffice.org keeps coming up with compile errors.

    Properly-written code should not care about what processor it is running on. It's wrong from a portability point of view to assume that a particular data type can be substituted for another data type just because, on one system, they happen to have the same bit size. Yet that seems to be at the very root of the issue here. I edited file after file, lost track of where I was at, and finally gave up. Meanwhile, I've come to love KOffice.

    Bear in mind that this is Sun's OpenOffice.org, a piece of code they dare show us the internals of.

    Now think. Sun also sell proprietary, closed-source stuff, which they don't have to worry about other people seeing. Stuff like Solaris and Java.

    If OpenOffice.org is so sloppily written that it won't compile on a 64-bit system without more mods than I was prepared to make, and that's what they deign to let us look at -- then what sort of state is the code in that they won't let us see?

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  13. Muppet by turgid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You bought an Opteron workstation. You want to run it with a 64-bit OS? So run Solaris 10. You shouldn't need to compile OpenOffice.org just download the darned binaries. Solaris 10 runs 32- and 64-bit binaries side by side, seamlessly, flawlessly and with no performance penalty.

    1. Re:Muppet by turgid · · Score: 2, Informative
      What if he doesn't want to run Solaris 10?

      Fair enough, but judging by his rants, it doesn't look like he has much of a clue what he's trying to achieve. Why is he trying to compile OOo "64-bit"?

      On a properly-designed system, the headers and libraries should all be in the normal places for 32-bit compatibility, and it should "just work."

      It sounds like he's using debian, so that would explain it. But rather than figuring this out, he blames Sun, and gets away with it because it's the fashionable stance to take around here just now. Times was it was M$ that took the bashing here.

      Are all 64-bit Athlons Opterons?

      Effectively, yes. Athlon-64, Opteron etc. are just marketing names for the AMD64 chips. They're all pretty much the same apart from minor differences to target them to the various market segments.

  14. Re:FIRST SUN SUCK POST by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've paid for a 64-bit processor, for crying out loud -- and I'm damned if I'm going to have it run on half its cylinders.

    Tell me about it.

    I've been begging for a 64bit office suite for years so that I could overcome the 4 gig of memory limit for my letters and spreadsheets.

    Afterall, a majority of 32bit apps on 64bit machines actually run faster, but if you are still suffering from the limits of a 32bit office app, by all means compile it for 64bit.

  15. Not the real reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sun already have the necessary remote display technologies. See http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/124007Z6UVR8.xht ml

    This acquisition was done because Tarantella have some number of Sun customers, and Sun had been recommending Tarantella. Tarantella would be bankrupt within a few months and that would seriously embarass Sun with those customers. This way Sun doesn't piss off or lose those customers. (While the deal is closing Sun will be paying life support to Tarantella.)

    The management at Tarantella has always been pretty poor. In late 2003, a new executive team bought their way in. (Look up Frank Wilde). They specialise in flipping companies, making sure that they give themselves very generous golden parachutes (options that turn into shares on buys, change of control payments, various bonuses etc). This was no exception, except the company was about to go down the toilet. Who knows what they managed to convince Sun with, and quite why Sun is happy to be spending so much money paying off mangement I don't know.

    Additionally this deal requires shareholder approval. There are many murmors of people voting no, and others of stripping the self serving management team of their very generous compensation and offering the company to others. It isn't over till the fat lady sings!

  16. Re:FIRST SUN SUCK POST by Alioth · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was running OpenOffice on a 64 bit SPARC system years ago. I suspect you're having other problems.