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Keeping America strong by making mislabeling the problem! It really isn't too late to avoid the worst of the Real-ID Act, and Bruce Scheier's essay on it should be required reading.
Needs more cowbell! c1one writes "In an update to the story Trent Reznor Challenges Music Norms, there has been an "Unofficial The Hand that Feeds Remix Contest." The contest has produced an extreme range of styles, from Hip-Hop to HeeHaw and even a few lounge versions, to name a few. The point though, is that after listening to almost 400 remixes, some of the tracks rival the level of professionalism and creativity found on some of the "official" halo releases. The contest deadline was 5/5/05 and voting by 20 appointed international judges ranging from a Berklee College of Music graduate and various studio engineers to a former Nothing Studio's intern has commenced. They will determine a top ten list using the "nine inch rating scale" that should be available to entertain and to vote on soon."
Graceful reactions are worth emulating. Author Will Iverson writes with a reaction to Simon Chappell's review of his book Apache Jakarta Commons :
"Hi Guys!
I would just like to respond regarding the Slashdot review as posted:
So... I don't know how negatively the review was influenced by the inclusion of the Apache material, but it is entirely above-board per the Apache license and essentially reciprocal - I'm giving the material in the book back to the community via a free license to download the material.
- The book itself is published under an open license - the material in the book will be available as a free electronic download in a few months.
- Yes, the last 125 pages *is* (for all intents and purposes) the printed javadoc. This was included at the request of the publisher, and it is valuable for some people.
Oh, and as an FYI, book writing is hardly a cash cow - I only wish. ;)
Cheers & best wishes,
Will Iverson
A classic case of Americans all looking alike. Of the post "German Robot Dogs Dominate 2005 RoboCup U.S. Open," Ethan Tira-Thompson writes "The linked article has it wrong -- the German team played CMU, not UT Austin. Major screwup on the AP's part, but they don't say who wrote the original article! "
Here's an excerpt from the team's CMU team's announcement:
From: Manuela Veloso Date: May 10, 2005 2:51:14 PM EDT To: scs-all@cs.cmu.edu Subject: US Open Champs :-)Hi,
We won the RoboCup US Open, in the AIBO league. We played UPenn in the final and won 2-1 in overtime. UPenn (Dan Lee) and UT Austin (Peter Stone) came second and third, playing very well and very close to us. They are great teams. Our team, CMDash'05 still has a long way to go to better prepare for the Internationl RoboCup in Japan in July :-)
Please congratulate the complete team for the USOpen victory:
Sonia Chernova, team leader, CSD PhD student, robot behaviors, motion learning Colin McMillen, CSD PhD student, teamwork, networking, goalie Paul Rybski, RI PostDoc, state estimation, multi-robot world modeling, behaviors Juan Fasola, CSD junior, vision, defender, behaviors, motion Felix vonHundelshausen, CSD PostDoc, vision Alex Trevor, CSD senior, vision Sabine Hauert, exchange CS Master student from Switzerland, localization, behaviors Raquel Ros Espinoza, visitor from Barcelona, behaviors, vision
and with the help at the Open of the veterans: Doug Vail, CSD PhD student, vision James Bruce, CSD PhD student, vision, motion"
Hey, they got most of it right. A Harvard Crimson story linked from a Slashdot post headlined "Mathematicians Become Hollywood Consultants" described Jonathan Farley, a math professor who co-founded a consulting agency to help Hollywood get mathematics right in movies an television shows. Farley wrote to point out that his neither a Harvard post-doctoral fellow nor a professor at the State University of New York at Buffalo, writing "I am not and never have been either. (I am a tenured professor elsewhere and have been for several years.) This was an incorrect statement initially made by poor reporters at the Harvard University student newspaper. " Farley points to this Boston Globe story which gets it right.
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that's the most dupes I've ever seen at once...
A handful of updates, corrections and further thoughts on recent Slashdot stories follow; read on for updates on the Real-ID Act, Hollywood consultant math professor Jonathan Farley, the real first losers (and winners of the U.S. Open's Aibo League) at the 2005 Robo-Cup, and more. Details below.A handful of updates, corrections and further thoughts on recent Slashdot stories follow; read on for updates on the Real-ID Act, Hollywood consultant math professor Jonathan Farley, the real first losers (and winners of the U.S. Open's Aibo League) at the 2005 Robo-Cup, and more. Details below.
WAY TO GO SLASHDOT!
No longer are duplicate stories enough. Nor are duplicate stories on the same day or within the same hour. No, NOW WE DUPLICATE THE STORY WITHIN ITSELF!
Congratulations!
A handful of updates, corrections and further thoughts on recent Slashdot stories follow; read on for updates on the Real-ID Act, Hollywood consultant math professor Jonathan Farley, the real first losers (and winners of the U.S. Open's Aibo League) at the 2005 Robo-Cup, and more. Details below.A handful of updates, corrections and further thoughts on recent Slashdot stories follow; read on for updates on the Real-ID Act, Hollywood consultant math professor Jonathan Farley, the real first losers (and winners of the U.S. Open's Aibo League) at the 2005 Robo-Cup, and more. Details below.
A dupe within the article summary?!? Now I've seen it all.
lol.
Slashdotters: You are all a bunch of faggots.
Do you hear me, you repulsive faggots? NO DIGG.
And here I thought that Holleywood had misidentified the Commons (e.g. all the old, public domain fairy tales) as its own.
Err, wait...
Please lets keep down the "your papers please" posts, these ID's will have RFID, 'they' will be able to check you papers anytime, anyplace. I'm sure putting your ID in an anti-static bag to prevent reading will not be very popular with 'the man.'
;)
And by the way, I grow more fond of my sig at every posting.
If you voted for Nader, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!
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If the American military was serius about defending American freedom, they would hunt down Sensenbrenner, drag him into the street and shoot him through the lungs. Or, if they were serius about defending American safety then they would be stationed in American cities trained and equipped to deal with terrorist attacks.
Oh, but wait, that's not their job. The job of the American military is to defend Iraqi freedom. Well, it's good to see American tax dollars paying the American military to do its job.
Remember that dell commercial, where the techie is whispering to the camera in front of a disassembled laptop? You're that guy. You might look at the douchebag boss with the coffee cup with disdain, as I do, but remember that he's the one fucking you in the ass, and the world always sides with the guy on top, as I do. While I think it's cute that you think linux will be a viable desktop or that game designers actually pay attention to your concerns, I believe the time has come for you to ask yourselves why you've been involuntarily celibate for these last seventeen months. Because your urge to force computer preferences on the rest of the world is symptomatic of all that is broken with your personalities. Microsoft is guilty of the same crime of trying to force their technology on the population, but they have money, and power, and many of them possess social skills requisite to being in big business. Linux fanatics on the other hand try to pull this and fall flat on their faces, because they aren't rich, they have no power, and their social skills prompt them to cry themselves to sleep in dark lonely corners. Remember nerds- the rest of the world is that douchebag with the coffee cup, disapproving and scolding when you overstep your bounds. We might not lend ourselves well to sympathetic portrals in commercials and other media, but every night we can come home in a shiny expensive car, to a nice furnished apartment, and eat some pussy before going to bed. Our lives revolve around windsurfing or skiing with friends that you don't have, and some unfaithful extramarital sex on the side. We laugh at you because you're different, you laugh at us because there's nothing else you can do. Whenever I lay off employees, I always use pink slips. Last time I did it in person, I almost bit my tongue off trying to keep a straight face. Trust me, I don't remember you at all. I love my job I hear The Home Depot is hiring. Seriously linux users, you're operating system wont make up for the fact that girls are repulsed by your bodies.
Slashdotters: You are all a bunch of faggots.
Do you hear me, you repulsive faggots? NO DIGG.
Sooooooo... is this the thing that will take a lot of money from the US tax payers to identify 12 persons per 30 years instead of looking the reports that you will be attacked by some people in planes that you knew all along?
No sig for now.
Ok, the jokes roll in about the dupe of the summary, but how did that one slip through?
Guess they should have used the preview button!
Hmm, most mathematicians that go to Hollywood end up getting their maths screwed up. Thats where 1 infringing copy = $150,000 in damages. I'd get out of there quickly if I were that guy.
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now that sucks. I finally get first post only to have it be to a dupe-fest..
Impressive yes, but the list seems incomplete in its failure to mention that this article, "Apple: Hilary Rosen Gripes About iPod, iTMS" seems to have been more than a little fished in.
No this is just more evidence that Timothy is a robot. I swear to god the moment I see "destroy all humans!" in one of these blurbs is the moment I have my proof.
"It really isn't too late to avoid the worst of the Real-ID Act, and Bruce Scheier's essay on it should be required reading."
Yes, definitely! I really like the points he makes, such as that REAL ID is bad because:
- Real addresses on all cards, even for undercover police officers
- Insecure RFID technology allowing unauthorized access
- Machine readable = ATM > 7-11's Database > Choicepoint > Spammers and Identity Theifs
- Expensive ($120 million estimated per state!) and unfunded! The last thing we need are more deficits!
- Power grab by national government
And the best of all, besides it probably decreasing security:
- Polls overwhelmingly show no one wants it! And over 600 organizations oppose it!
Now, if that doesn't sound like a completely botched-up job, I don't know what is.
"Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write it should be hard to understand."
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REAL ID requires that driver's licenses contain actual addresses, and no post office boxes. There are no exceptions made for judges or police -- even undercover police officers. This seems like a major unnecessary security risk.
Yeah, because everybody know that undercover police officers take their real ID papers with them under cover. [/sarcasm]
If there's a need to keep the address of judges and police officers secret, then allow them to list FAKE addresses, or rather an address that is re-routed through a mail screening service. Don't allow any Tom, Dick, and Harry to list their address as
Box 5, Jean Climax' Barber, Maildrop and Internet Café.
REAL ID also prohibits states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens. This makes no sense, and will only result in these illegal aliens driving without licenses -- which isn't going to help anyone's security.
How does that make no sense? Like, knowing who people are before giving them identification? If they drive so horribly without a license, what would make them try to get one?
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Which is why one should never assume anything from a student newspaper (or Slashdot) is fact.
If you post it, they will read.
Just a comment. I wanted to say how much I enjoy reading the stories posted on Slashdot, and participating in the interesting discussions. People express lot of different points of view that I never would have thought of on my own.
Just a comment. I wanted to say how much I enjoy reading the stories posted on Slashdot, and participating in the interesting discussions. People express lot of different points of view that I never would have thought of on my own.
No need to wait for a repost - this one dupes itself!
Slashdot's name? When my compiler sees
I presume that all of the REAL ID attributes that are applied to driver's licenses are also applied to state identifications? I have not seen that addressed anywhere.
See, I have a problem with that. Driving is a privilege and not a right. If you don't want to participate, just don't get a license and don't drive. However, existing is not an option and to do anything (get a library card, bank account, internet access, rent an apartment, get a job) you have to have an identification card.
So the only way to avoid the requirements of this REAL ID thing is to remove yourself entirely from the technological, social and economic grids. You won't be able to live anywhere, buy anything or work anywhere. So as long as you can do without that, you'll be okay.
It's really, ultimately, taxpayer dollars, right? Or can someone school me on the point, preferrable in an Alan Greenspan mumble?
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Or does the linked "professionalism and creativity" song rather suck? Or is that the point? It kinda gives me a headache...
Okay, I do not get this at all...
From the post:
Farley wrote to point out that his[sic] neither a Harvard post-doctoral fellow nor a professor at the State University of New York at Buffalo, writing "I am not and never have been either. (I am a tenured professor elsewhere and have been for several years.)
FTA:
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. -- Harvard professor Jonathan Farley is an award-winning scholar, but he wouldn't mind being known as a Hollywood mathematician.
So I thought to myself, couldn't he just come out & say he's a Harvard prof., not a grad student? But then, I googled, & lo & behold:
http://math.mit.edu/people/faculty/farley.html
Is he the male equivalent to prime-time Alias? A doppelganger? An elaborate hoax?
So I agree with Scheiner REAL ID is an absolutely terrible idea (it combines the worst security aspects of national and state IDs) it really isn't clear to me that a national ID card could not make identification more reliable as well as realizing significant economic savings by standardization.
In particular while I agree that using one ID system introduces a common point of high value failure it also economiclly feasible to invest a great deal more in the ID system. If one ID replaces n IDs you can make the ID cost roughly about the sum of the costs of all those other IDs. If one national ID replaced all our driver's liscensces, passports, credit cards and so forth it could afford more sophisticated safegaurds than any of the former IDs individually.
So while REAL ID seems to introduce the single point of failure without benefitting from economies of scale it seems perfectly possible that at some point in the future the increased safety provided by cryptographic smart card features, biometrics, and other possible features would outweigh the safety disadvantages of one point of attack. Furthermore the amount of resources spent to verify the card holder at issuance or for replacement could be similarily increased.
Furthermore it seems to me that our current system already has the problem of a single point of attack insofar as is relevant to terror. I let my drivers liscensce expire and prove my identity entierly via my passport. I have never had to produce any other ID for airline flights or other government related authentication. I have no doubt I could get a credit card or SSN number with a passport plus some easy to aquire items (bills to your address in that name etc..).
So while one wouldn't want to implement a system like REAL ID, or any system that hasn't already gone through some extensive real world testing. It seems at least possible that the increased resources availible by combining IDs could be used to more than outweigh any disadvantges, especially since the relevant ID systems already suffer from many of the purported disadvantages.
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The dupes just keep getting closer together, don't they? The dupes just keep getting closer together, don't they?
No, the answer is simpler than that. You see, they are running Linux, which runs X-Window. In X, you select some text and click the middle mouse button on another window to paste your selection. However, the mid-button is less used than the left one, so the contacts get dirty. When they clicked the mid button, the dirty contacts bounced and registered two clicks, so the selected text was pasted twice.
Write your GOVERNORS people! The national association of governors isn't a fan of the act and they want to protest it. WRITE YOUR GOVERNOR!!!!! it may still be able to be stopped
It's the first dupe in one post. We've all just seen history folks. In 20 years, your kids (or clones, for those of you who don't/can't breed) will ask you about this moment. Remember it well.
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At least this is new. It's been a while since the last new insane bit of grammar/spelling I've seen ("copy'd").
Dupe!
I remember when legal used to mean lawful, now it means some kind of loophole. - Leo Kessler
That is the most creative excuse I have ever read. Are you sure it doesn't have something to do with lunar phases or the gravitational constant? If that truly is the case, they must have really old or really shitty mice. I've never had a mouse mis-register a button click. Well, one time I had a $2 mouse where the button would get stuck, but what do you expect from a $2 mouse? Aren't all mouse buttons debounced these days?
Whatever information the license contained, you could read it.
Then someone came up with the bright idea of adding a magnetic strip.
If you live in a state/country that still uses magstrips,
beat the hell out of it with a hammer so it won't be machine readable anymore.
Nowadays, the latest and greatest IDs use "3D" barcodes.
Instead of your up and down stripes, imagine a low rez snowstorm.
Now you have no clue what information your license contains
The next gen passport/national ID/driver's license might use
RFid tags.
The trend has been to increase information density while obfuscating the content.
g'luck witholding your ID.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
Frontal labotomy!" - Groucho Marx said this long before Tom Waits. Sorry, but I just had to comment on your sig
I personally think the new single that's been getting excessive amounts of airtime sucks
If you read that again, you'll realize I said the single sucks.
Not Nine Inch Nails, not Trent Reznor, just the new single.
I haven't heard the rest of the album. I'm sure I will eventually
But if that one song reflects the new sound NIN is aiming for...
I'll most likely be underwhelmed.
I like their older work.
I hope this CD isn't like Metallica & their craptacular last album
Change the sound too much and people will hate it.
Maybe that's why the made such a big PR-fest of their Remix Contest.
...So their fans will have something worth listening to.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
of me than a full frontal lobotomy. I'm not sure why this gets credited to Tom Waits- I guess its the "full" part that forget from the original
Details below.A handful of...
Spaces are required between sentences.
They go after the period and before the new sentence.
Example:
Details below. A handful of...
Actually, see, they pasted once, picked up the ringing telephone, and after they ended the conversation, they pasted again, thinking they didn't do it before.
Since it was already 6PM, they never minded checking the text after it was ready, because this Slashback is a lengthy, worksome article that gets little of the usual user input and ended with this unique paragraph-dupe specimen.
See? Occam's Razor! This doesn't require the intricacies of the middle-click-bounces-on-tennis-balls-which-bounces -in-two-separate-walls-boucing-back -into-the-coffee-table-which-in-turn-hits-the-penc il-holder-in-the-desk-that-falls-over-the-middle-b utton-again-trick explanation!
(However, I'm waiting for the day we'll get the dupe-within-dupe story. That day I'll KNOW something is wrong with the Matrix!!!!!)
I don't know about Audubon itself. I do think that it used to be common to not give farmers street addresses. I grew up on a Rural route. My street address was:
Rural Route 2, Box 155b
Buffalo, MN, 55362
They gave us street addresses about 15 years ago. I know plenty of people in rural areas who still have the rural route address.
Note that this is a rural route, box address. This is different from a P.O. box, contrary to what the grandparent post claimed. From a rural route box there is no way to guess what street you live on. Even if you follow the postal carrier you cannot know, as houses are built they have to add more boxes. (There was a trailer home on the property with box 156b1)
Every time I move my state requires me to get a new license to reflect my new address. If I move out of state I have to turn over my old license and get one in the new state. (Generally they just mark the old license as invalid as a license, but still proof of ID, and give you papers that are proof of license - confusing but it works until you get the new license in about a month)
In most states licenses are only good for 4 years. Every 4 years I have to go get a new license, which includes a vision test. (no other tests) Arizona was/is an exception. A few years back they made all licenses good for 60 years or some such, in protest of new federal drivers license regulations - I think that was only for a short time though. (Yes, there are federal laws about drivers licenses already, but only apply to renewals)
Driving is a privilege, ok, but it relates to the right to travel. I think, not too clear on this, that a driver's license, once you have one, is considered property, so if they take it away in an arbitrary and capricious manner without due process, you might have a claim.
OK, the the real ID bill has passed and been signed.
Let's say you are in the state agency which would be forced to implement it. What can you do to comply with the letter of the law, while making it not work in practice?
Conversely, how could you implement it to really screw with people, triggering a backlash so it's gets repealed or ignored?
Anybody want to draft a bill to repeal realID? should be easy, one paragraph. Find a sponsor, maybe Ron Paul for starters, and get it voted on every year, for as many years as it takes.
Police officers are allowed to carry guns while driving. Others are not (guns in vehicles must be in lockers). Is there a problem with that? No. It makes perfect sense- it's not a question of "privelege", it's a question of what their job requires.
You can adduce a couple hundred examples without expending much effort. Enabling law enforcement to do its job in this kind of way is not going to make anything "falls aparts".
would everyone equate a driver's license with a universal id card. is it really the assumption in the US that every last individual will wish to drive a goddamn car?
There is one thing I have noticed when reading the replies to the posts about RealID - tie-ins to the mark of the beast as prophesied in the book of Revelations in the Bible. Maybe those replies are being modded down, too much conspiracy theory?
Imagine this scenario: 5 years from now (3 is their goal for implentation), RealID has been implemented for 2 years. The card actually worked as intended and the American populace has embraced it. Unfortunately the cards start to be hacked, identities are stolen, scandals occur with important people, etc.
Since the card has RFID, a chip is put in the owners hand which acts together with the card to authenticate who a person is. Walk near a scanner with your card, the card verifies it is in the vincinity of the proper card owner by doing a handshake with the chip in the owners hand, and together they form the unique ID which the scanner uses.
At this point in the scenario there may not even be a need for the card anymore. The chip in the hand is a pretty secure form of authentication.
Another scenario: 5 years from now, events unfold in such a way that RealID "cards" are no longer considered to be useful as authentic and secure ID. A new department is created to oversee and fix the problem. Internal Department for the Identification Of Terrorists Service or IDIOTS. Something really secure is needed. The American populace has become used to the ease of use of the RFID RealID card. IDIOTS rolls out a campaign to replace the cards with implants. The new ID system offers all of the convenience of the beloved RealID card, without the hassle of losing the card, having it stolen, hacked etc. The EU has been using it for years. IDIOTS can guarantee its reliability because the implant chip truly is perfect, the only true hack left is to remove the chip and implant another. IDIOTS makes this a top level offense and abusers are shipped off to prison. Christians, or privacy advocates, or whoever, are also sent to prisons along with the criminals because they refuse to take the chip, and buy "dummy" chips from other citizens which they use, but don't implant. They do this because all systems were years ago replaced with RFID scanner systems which scanned the RealID card. Cash is no longer accepted because it has been replaced with the RealID card. Per the Bible accepting the "mark" is denying Christ, and accepting Satan, an unredeemable sin.
I have not thought the above scenarios out in immaculate detail and they are not to be taken literally. They serve only as food for thought, and the ideas and concepts can be rolled around liberally to fit. Six months from now a clearer scenario can be imagined, with more pieces of the puzzle in place, of what will eventually take place in our society. Indeed, the final scenario will eventually be upon us, and we will all know with great clarity how the events happening in these days hurtled us to the society we will be struggling to exist in.
There are so many "Why?" questions in my mind: Why do they want to use RFID with these RealID cards? Why was this bill inserted into the $82 billion military spending bill which was all but guaranteed to pass. Why has this not been on the televised media? Why have none of the people that I know heard of this bill? Why was it not scrutinized by our senators? Why were 10,000 faxes sent to our senators in 2 days and none of the senators vocalized any concerns with this tacked on bill when they voted? It passed 100-0! Will our society rebel against this bill and force its removal from our government?
Each day new variables are revealed which make "mark of the beast" scenarios easier to imagine. I remember pondering on RFID a few years ago. A few years ago, I never could have imagined the US government implementing a system such as RealID which could so smoothly usher in a new age.
The book of Revelations (King James version) is full of snippets of information and prophecies about the end of the
I got back from modern Russia yesterday (literally - I was there on holiday for a week) and on four different ocassions I was stopped and asked for my "papers" (AKA my passport).
The first was walking down the street in St. Petersburg - a pair of cops stopped me, and demanded "papers".
The second was as I was getting onto the St. Petersburg metro (I think the station was Moskovstaya). There were a whole bunch of OMON soldiers around, and a pair (and a cop) stopped me and asked for my papers.
The third was when my taxi got pulled over (in a nice part of Moscow) and the cops checked my and the driver's papers.
The fourth was as I was taking a picture of a convoy of important people (I guess they were inportant - they had one hell of an escort) leaving the VE-Day celebrations. As I raised my camera, a passer-by stepped in front of me, pushed me against the nearby wall, showed me his ID (with the cyrilic letters FSB and the shield on it) and demanded my papers in awful english. I pretended to not understand, and after a few tries he lost interest in me and ran to go stop an old lady who crossed the security perimeter.
So it's not only in Soviet Russia - it's in Putin's Russia as well.
Cue The Sun...
Carte Blanche for the Terror Cops
Senate Gives Dept. Homeland Security Power to Waive All Laws
By ROBERT SHULL
In passing the Iraq War Supplemental yesterday, the Senate also gave the Secretary of Homeland Security the power to waive any and all law in the course of building roads and barriers along the U.S. borders -- without limit and with no checks and balances. The measure is part of the "REAL ID Act of 2005," the controversial immigration bill attached by the House as a rider to the Iraq war supplemental.
The consequence of this decision is that Congress has given one man a license to waive any law, for any reason or for no reason at all. Michael Chertoff, the Secretary of Homeland Security, now has the power to simply waive away laws that protect the environment, safeguard public health, ensure consumer and workplace safety, prevent unfair business practices, and ban discrimination -- at his sole and unreviewable discretion.
There is too much at stake to grant any government officials the power to waive all law. Immediately at stake, of course, are current environmental protections in the vicinity of the borders, but even more is at stake. These fences and roads will not build themselves-- they must be put in place by workers, who could lose all their workplace safety protections as well as their rights to collective bargaining or even overtime pay. This new power comes completely without limit; every law, from child labor to ethical contracting, can now be waived.
Congressional supporters of this measure would like us to believe that this measure means only that DHS can speed up completion of one small stretch of fence in the "Smuggler's Gulch" area near San Diego. Nothing could be further from the truth. This measure is written so that Michael Chertoff will have unlimited authority to waive all law in the course of building roads and barriers and removing obstacles to the detection of illegal immigrants, and it applies anywhere in the vicinity of the borders. Earlier versions of this provision would have limited its scope just to environmental laws and just to Smuggler's Gulch, but the version now passed by both houses of Congress applies everywhere along the borders and applies to all laws on the books.
We expect government officials to execute the law. No government agency should be above the laws that preserve America's democracy. Congress has granted the Secretary of Homeland Security unbridled authority to act however he sees fit, without consequence, accountability, and any opportunity for judicial review.
[Robert Shull is Director of Regulatory Policy at OMB Watch.]
Quite the contrary, one has the right to the quiet enjoyment of one's property. Everyone has a right to use a public road, and it can only be taken away if
- you are using a motor vehicle, and
- a court of competent jurisdiction takes your right away for cause, or
- You have not met the age or competence standard for using a motor vehicle, an inherently dangerous thing.
"Driving is a privilege and not a right" is an urban legend. If it wasn't a right, the cop could cancel your license on the spot.--dave
davecb@spamcop.net
Trent Reznor hasn't challenged anything, instead, he's jumped on the bandwagon. Bands, including ones on major labels too, have been distrubuting remix packs for years now. Just because Reznor is using Garageband and prior artists used Acid packs, that doesn't make Reznor's offering any more "open to the common user". You could even argue the opposite.