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Judge Denies TigerDirect's Request for Injunction

wallykeyster writes "As predicted in previous discussions the judge has ruled against TigerDirect's request for injunction to prevent Apple from using 'Tiger' in their advertising." I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do.

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  1. Does that mean... by pmazer · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can say "Tiger" again?

    1. Re:Does that mean... by DoraLives · · Score: 5, Funny
      I can say "Tiger" again?

      Only if you say it indirectly.

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      Is it fascism yet?
    2. Re:Does that mean... by gvc · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but you still don't have enough free vocabulary to relate the opening scene from The Flintstones. As you may recall, Fred puts the tiger out but it re-enters the house, not through the door but through the winspire.

    3. Re:Does that mean... by macthulhu · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know... The 80 year old man that lived next to me as a child used to call me "Tiger"... That was 1974. You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

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      Someday a real rain is gonna come...

    4. Re:Does that mean... by antic · · Score: 5, Funny


      My neighbor used to call me the same thing, until I stopped leaping out of the bushes in his front yard and scratching at his face.

      --
      'Thats they exact same thing a banana wrench monkey.'
  2. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    So it looks like TigerDirect's injuction was nothing but a paper tiger.

  3. They still have a shot. by wls · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next up, TigerDirect sues Microsoft for using the word Direct in DirectX.

  4. Watch Out... by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tony the Tiger, you're next!

    1. Re:Watch Out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Grrrrreeeaaat!

  5. Telling the difference between the two by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Judge Lenard said "any given customer who cross-shops TigerDirect and Apple, whether over the internet or in person at their retail local stores, will be able to distinguish their respective retail outlets due to the distinctive differences in their marketplaces' appearance and messages."

    Need proof? Look at the shiny polished Slashdot logo at the top. When was the last time you looked at that and thought "Oh, I'm in the TigerDirect section of Slashdot!"

  6. This is dumb. by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The number of trademarkable things is increasing daily, as more people go into business making more products.

    The number of words in the English language, however, remains the same.

    Just a namespace collision isn't evidence of trademark infringement. That requires (or should require -- I gave up on learning the details of IP law once I realized that it made no sense) one company to choose their name specifically to leech off another successful name.

    Tigerdirect has been around since before Apple picked the name Tiger.

    Apple wouldn't want anything to be named after such a shitty company.

    So what's the deal?

    1. Re:This is dumb. by cowscows · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The deal is that TigerDirect saw the possibility of some easy money, hoping that just the threat of an injunction so close to Tiger's release would scare Apple into sending them some cash just to forget about the whole thing. Apple didn't bite. And a judge didn't fall for it either.

      So TigerDirect revealed themselves as a bunch of jackasses, and the courts worked as they're supposed to. Yay!

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      One time I threw a brick at a duck.

    2. Re:This is dumb. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bullshimble!
      The English language is evolving.com all the time, and new words are addendumated every year into the lexicolon.

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
    3. Re:This is dumb. by SpeckledJim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who'd have thought it? George W Bush posting on Slashdot.

    4. Re:This is dumb. by cowscows · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, there's so much in common with this Tiger case and what happened to kleenex. A made up word used as a brand name for a product becomes a common term sometimes used for all similar products. Sucks for Kleenex.

      A company that has an already common word as part of their company name is upset because another company uses the same already common word as part of the name of one of their products. Oh God, the world is coming to an end! Between Tiger Direct, OS 10.4 Tiger, the approximately 6 bazillion sports teams named the Tigers, a dominate golfer named Tiger, oh and some stupid animal using the name too...I don't think I can function anymore, my brain is overloaded!

      Besides. Apple announced their product as Tiger a long time ago. Then TigerDirect decides to make a big deal of it right before it's about to ship? The timing seems awfully suspect to me. Must be because I'm an Apple simpleton.

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      One time I threw a brick at a duck.

    5. Re:This is dumb. by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Funny

      lexicolon

      I know you were joking, but this is seriously the best word ever. We can use it for the entire vocabulary of horribly abused words on the Internet and cell phones.

  7. Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. by skingers6894 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IP rights? To the name "Tiger"?

    Right.

  8. Pardon? What intellectual property? by dscho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How could a term like "Tiger" in any non-judicial sense (such as common sense) ever be accused of being an intellectual property?

  9. I have mod points by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So where can I moderate Cowboyneals comments on this story?

    1. Re:I have mod points by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

      So where can I moderate Cowboyneals comments on this story?

      In your hosts file.

      Something like this should suit you nicely :)

      64.236.24.28 slashdot.org

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
    2. Re:I have mod points by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Funny

      And now Im in a wierd position, I would *love* to moderate you for that comment (up incase youi were wondering) but I cant because Ive commented, but you wouldnt have made that comment if I hadnt commented, so I couldnt have moderated you if I hadnt commented. Oh well :)

  10. Re:Unnecessary comments by cowscows · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I generally think the editor's comments are annoying attempts by them to try and sound funnier and smarter than they really are.

    But this one at least made me smile. Lighten up. It's their website, not yours. They've been adding commentary like this for years, most of it's dumb, sure, but that's how the world works.

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    One time I threw a brick at a duck.

  11. Re:I look forward to the day... by cpghost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah: imagine a dictionary full of (C)s and (R)s:

    Tigers(C) (Panthera tigris(R)) are mammals of the Felidae(TM) family, one of four "big cats"(R)(C) that belong to the Panthera(R) genus. Tigers(R) are "predatory carnivores"(TM)

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  12. Re:Unnecessary comments by mattdm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's news for nerds, keep this kind of commentary out of it please.

    *Man* do we need a "Haha you're new here" moderation for these kinda comments. This isn't a journalism site -- it's an entertainment and discussion site. I damn well *expect* there to be snide partisan commentary from the editors (a poorly-chosen job title, but oh well -- deal with it).

  13. Funny by Zebra_X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the tables were turned, I'm sure apple would do the same thing to tiger direct. Apple has quite a colorful litigeous history.

  14. blah blah blah... by east+coast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the blurb: "I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do.

    From my dealing of people who put TigerDirect first on their lists I doubt that many of the TigerDirect customer base give a damn about either Apple or Geek politics. Let's not take ourselves too seriously here.

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    Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
  15. This is not personal. They have to protect it. by tempshill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On trademark infringement, companies don't sue other companies to try to cash in. They do it because if they don't attempt to protect their trademark, courts will rule that it isn't a trademark anymore and isn't protectible. Aspirin, Zipper.

    1. Re:This is not personal. They have to protect it. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note that aspirin mainly is not a trademark because Germany lost WWI. There was no way fo the Bayer company to protect their trademark against the Allies.

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    2. Re:This is not personal. They have to protect it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Yeah? You and whose army .. oh."

    3. Re:This is not personal. They have to protect it. by Afrosheen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's a little known facet of WW2. The Germans lost not only the war but every single patent they ever had. Who did they lose them to? Oh, the USA of course. It was the single largest theft of intellectual property the world has ever seen, not to mention the absolute looting of major banks and households.

      Ironically enough, a percentage of German gold was actually stolen from displaced/killed Jews and other countries that Germany had conquered. Tons of that gold made it back to New York where it was re-pressed with the Federal Seal, thereby making it US money. Through following paper trails and lots of hunting, Jewish advocacy groups located much of their own gold and the US government was forced to pay them back, with interest. This all happened very recently (the payback itself).

    4. Re:This is not personal. They have to protect it. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Another interesting fact about WW2 is that the looting of the German industry (pretty much all machines were taken) is partially responsible for the Wirtschaftswunder: As we had no machines to produce anything we had to replace them, which we did - with the most moderm machines on the market, which boosted productivity. Had we not lost all the old machines, economy would still have boomed, but not as much as it actually did.

      All in all, it seems that the people who profited from the massive looting are not the looters themselves, at least as far as physical things are concerned. The intellectual property (what an ugly word) theft, however... Hmm, didn't Microsoft just start this contest where people make movies about "Thought Thieves"? This sounds like the perfect topic for an entry. ;)

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    5. Re:This is not personal. They have to protect it. by Reaperducer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was the single largest theft of intellectual property the world has ever seen

      How is it theft? Sounds like the spoils of war.

      And don't forget -- this is Slashdot where it's not politically correct to say intellectual property can be stolen. Otherwise people might have to pay for their music.

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      -- I'm old enough to have lived through six different meanings of the word "hacker."
  16. Yeah, and... by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apple had long been calling the things that opened in their Operating Systems "Windows" long before Microsoft ventured away from the DOS prompt.

    What exactly is your point?

    AFAICT, Tiger Direct does not market an operating system under their name, and it seems quite obvious that Apple is not using the word "Direct" in any of their marketing or naming strategies.

    Again I ask, what exactly is your point?

    Trademarks only reach so far, and Tiger Direct's does not (rightly IMHO) reach far enough. Next thing you know, African tour operators will be trying to sue Apple over the name of their browser, the French will be trying to sue Apple over their chosen name for autoconfig, mathemeticians and philosophers the world over will be trying to sue Apple over the name of their (bought out) music software, auto makers will be suing them over the use of the term "dashboard", etc. etc. etc.

    Trademarks only go so far.

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    "Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
  17. Wonder what would happen if I created AppleDirect? by PocketPick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, I'm sure Apple wouldn't have a problem that.

  18. Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. by oberondarksoul · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple aren't, but you can buy a Mac running Linux from here. They're an authorised Apple OEM. There you go.

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    And tomorrow the stock exchange will be the human race
  19. they got two things out of this by SideshowBob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1) Assloads of publicity from suing Apple. Suing the fruity one always gets you some attention no matter how frivolous.

    2) The precedent of defending their trademark. So if another catalog retailer ever comes along with a name that really does infringe, they can't say that TigerDirect failed to protect their TM.

  20. Tiger,tiger burning bright by panurge · · Score: 4, Funny
    In the forests of the night
    What immortal hand or eye
    Protects thy brand integrity?

    Under India's burning skies
    IP issues do not rise
    If you've passed on being shot
    You still can't sue the goddam lot

    Genus felis does not code
    Nor shifts boxes by the load
    Salesmen in expensive shirts
    Don't care if your image hurts

    Tiger,tiger burning bright
    In the forests of the night
    Though extinction faces you
    It faces all those brand-names, too

    With sincere apologies to William Blake.

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    Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.