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LUGRadio Live This Summer

[vmlinuz] writes "Also picked up on The Register, The Inquirer and Linux Today - with the LUGRadio show getting more and more listeners and attracting guests such as Miguel de Icaza, Mark Shuttleworth, Alan Cox, Seth Nickell and more, the growing fanbase will be able to congregate at LUGRadio Live this summer. The day long event includes speakers such as Ian Bell (co-creator of Elite), Simon Willison, Bill Thompson, Christan Schaller and more. In addition to the speakers, an all day bar, multi-player gaming, mini expo and paintball are in the cards. LUGradio Live takes place on Sat 25th June 2005 in Wolverhampton, UK."

87 comments

  1. Podcasts and the like.. by treff89 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. are a great and effective way to spread Linux etc. by combatting the short attention span of the youth of today.

    1. Re:Podcasts and the like.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      short attention span? I'm 23 and and.... oh look, a shiny thing....

      dumbass....

    2. Re:Podcasts and the like.. by Tore+S+B · · Score: 1

      ...the short attention span of the youth of today.

      I take great offence to that remark. As a member of the "youth of today" I can assure you that... ooh, shiny

      --
      toresbe
  2. Is it just me? by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 2, Insightful

    News for Nerds.

    It seems to me that more often than news, slashdot's thing is adverts for nerds.

    Not saying it's a bad thing, there's a big grey area between news and adverts in this sort of thing, and hey, I'm here every day reading the stuff.

    I'm saying this mainly because I'd never heard of LUG radio before. Now I'm interested.

    Damn it "News for Nerds, Ads that bloody well work".

    PS Sorry if this comes off as a bit trollish. Its just there's a fine line between news and well targetted advertising.

    1. Re:Is it just me? by bersl2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its just there's a fine line between news and well targetted advertising.

      On the contrary, there is a very large and very blurred line between news and advertising.

      It is well-known what the readership of Slashdot is primarily. Since this event seems to be something that some readers may wish to attend, it is very much news, but it also happens to be advertising. Your mistake is in making the two mutually exclusive.

      You might make the argument that this is unacceptably more ad than news, but this is a much more subjective and difficult thing to show.

    2. Re:Is it just me? by mrevell · · Score: 1

      Point taken but, believe me, it's nigh-on impossible getting a story posted on Slashdot :) That's why people like Slashdot, though: it has editorial standards it sticks to.

      --
      Matthew Revell www.lugradio.org
    3. Re:Is it just me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Its just there's a fine line between news and well targetted advertising."

      Find out the difference on the LUGRadio Marketing Special!

    4. Re:Is it just me? by billysara · · Score: 2, Funny

      And besides, they'll repost the story in a few hours and you'll get slashdotted all over again... ;-)

  3. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Profanities all day long and live! :-D

    Sounds like a great event.

  4. Let them improve by bogaboga · · Score: 0, Troll

    I have had the chance to listen to LUGRadio but apart from the interview portion, I do not listen to the rest because I fing that they use a lot of distasteful language and also laugh a lot. It it why some people take Linux evengelists to be at the very bottom or near the bottom of the social ladder?

    1. Re:Let them improve by mrevell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you're being a little pessimistic regarding people's view of Linux fans. I believe LugRadio presents a view of FOSS that is rarely seen: i.e. normal people enjoying something they passionately believe in. It's blind zealotry that gives Linux a bad name, not having a laugh.

      --
      Matthew Revell www.lugradio.org
    2. Re:Let them improve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I enjoy LUGRadio but with the great of respect those guys can hardly claim not to be "blind zealots". I've lost count of the number of times they've recommended Ubuntu with no reasoning; and that Distro Wars is just lame. It might be an interesting segment if the opinions were given by people who could actually say something insightful on the subject but it comes off as rather pathetic zealotry. I might agree with them, but they're not
      the unbiased consumers they or you seem to think they are.

      On this subject, I was quite offended at the last episode I heard where they attempted to conflate the Free Software movement (as opposed to the Open Source movement) with the people Laura Didio claimed where harrassing here. Never mind that Didio may not even be telling the truth in regards to this, lord knows everything else she says has a price, it didn't stop a rabid tirade of abuse against the Free Software movement. Oh and Slashdot got a bad rap too. Can someone please tell that guy that the people who post on Slashdot are many and have a broad range of opinions. (I'm genuinely astonished that it ever needs to be stated that Slashdot has more than two users; do any other message boards have this problem?)

      It's a good and enjoyable show, but turn down the fan-boy talk. The show works best when it's used as a forum for developers who can offer something insightful. Endless quarrels regarding Linux distributions and childish interjections about Python not being a proper programming language (??) only spoil its credibililty.

    3. Re:Let them improve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psst, the guy you're replying to is one of the presenters.

      That aside, I think that you're missing the point - the "childish interjections" you refer to are part of what makes it fun to listen to, rather than just another dry tech show.

    4. Re:Let them improve by Perky_Goth · · Score: 1

      look, it's funny as hell. if you take it too seriously, it's your fault.
      having said that, i did email them about the Didio thing, and they weren't specificly saying that people shouldn't complain, but that people should not make personal atacks on them anyway, not that she didn't deserve it.
      it wasn't even against slashdot, they just worded it wrong. it was even my first episode, so i'm not just a fanboy.
      honestly, i don't think they give a fuck about being unbiased, it's just a hobby and don't think that some things are worth arguing.
      it's funny, sometimes informative and insightful, and it's free. what ever helps the community, right?

      cheers!

  5. oooGalaxyooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please stop trolling /., just because some gnome devs weren't nice to you and GoneMe was such a raving success.

    http://www.akcaagac.com/index_goneme.html

  6. Get Yer Torrents by nother_nix_hacker · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Get Yer Torrents by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 1

      WTF?
      Alternatively, unless I'm missing something, you might as well go to the lugradio site for torrents for all the episodes, right up to and including s2e15. not just the random one for season 2 episode 9, given in the link above.

    2. Re:Get Yer Torrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one posted is the link to ep. 15 not 9. Where did you pull that from?

    3. Re:Get Yer Torrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      filename: lugradio-s2e15-090505-high.ogg.torrent

      s: season.
      e: episode.

      s2e15: Season 2 episode 15.

      Go get some better glasses.

    4. Re:Get Yer Torrents by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 1

      Go get some better glasses.

      Believe it or not, anonymous fannybaws, I actually bothered to open it in Azureus, and the contained file (as opposed to the name of the torrent) was the MP3 for s2e9.
      Somebody cocked up, then fixed it.

    5. Re:Get Yer Torrents by byolinux · · Score: 1

      er.. that link looks like it's for s2e15, recorded on the 9th of May 2005.

    6. Re:Get Yer Torrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it was pointing to the correct ogg vorbis file....you little fannybaw.

    7. Re:Get Yer Torrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, you can't change a torrent like that. It was the correct one from the start. What actually happend was you read the 9 from the date and then hastily posted. Your a fscking twerp, reading your idiotic previous posts confirms this.

  7. Bill Thompson? by BillsPetMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What this Bill Thompson?

    The one that told Linux users to "get real" ?

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    "It's not your information. It's information about you" - John Ford, Vice President, Equifax
    1. Re:Bill Thompson? by mrevell · · Score: 1

      Hey, who wants a complete love-in? Conflict is the basis of great drama, etc etc :-D

      --
      Matthew Revell www.lugradio.org
    2. Re:Bill Thompson? by sparkes · · Score: 1

      you now have a chance to answer back in public, I'm sure Bill knows people will have read his bbc posts and have hundreds of nits to pick but the fact he is attending means he his willing to talk about these points.

    3. Re:Bill Thompson? by zootm · · Score: 1

      What this Bill Thompson?

      Yep. Problem?

    4. Re:Bill Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has a little knowledge about the Linux community, and was very slow to jump onboard after criticizing it from the sidelines and likening Linux developers to virus writers.

      So if he's now going to claim to be a champion of the Linux community then, yes I have a problem with that.

      Don't you?

    5. Re:Bill Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just read the linked article, and he seems completely practical and a linux supporter to boot.

      I fear you are one of the people he is describing.

    6. Re:Bill Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's actually taken down the offending article he published (which is an unusual thing for the BBC to do) in his regular column where he criticized the linux community for DDOS attacks on SCOs webservers.

      I know the article used to be there, because I responded to it saying it was twaddle and that the link between SCO DDOS attacks and Linux developers was tenuous to say the least.

      As is often the case, journos prefer not to answer to accusations of sensationalist bias. His involvement with LUGRadio is therefore laughable and ironic.

    7. Re:Bill Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, write in the vast majority balanced articles on Linux and the nerds want your head. Perhaps he should have said "Linux ownz M$!!! LOLZ" and you'd be happy or something. Whats laughable is that he does the decent thing: (a) removes his article and (b) is prepared to face the community, and you and people like you are completely automanouvered.

      I've long thought that contrary to your criticism its the Linux community at large that prefers to sit on the sidelines throwing shite at people who have done more to promote the availibility of Linux than a few thousand Slashdot posts ever had.

    8. Re:Bill Thompson? by BillsPetMonkey · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. I don't doubt that - Linuxheads are Linux's greatest enemy.

      However lets not forget that there are snakes in the grass - some people just get Linux. Others don't, but now they're happy to claim that they did all along ...

      --
      "It's not your information. It's information about you" - John Ford, Vice President, Equifax
  8. Kubuntu and KDE by JRiddell · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although it's not yet listed, I'll be talking about Kubuntu and KDE.

    1. Re:Kubuntu and KDE by sparkes · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oohh, I hope you wear something under the kilt for paintball or we could be painting your balls ;-)

    2. Re:Kubuntu and KDE by sparkes · · Score: 1

      Interesting banter between one of the original hosts of lugradio and one of the speakers at the event lugradio live could be scored off-topic.

      Another example of how giving modpoints to twats who obviously have not read the story or understand the comments has turned slashdot into a kiddies playground.

      sparkes - karma to burn

  9. Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, obviously the mods never listened to LUG Radio.

  10. SCALE Podcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Southern California Linux Expo has a podcast as well. It has great talks from their shows including Larry McVoy, John "maddog" Hall, Kevin Foreman, etc. Subscribe here.

  11. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Slashcode really fucked that formatting up. Then again, what do you expect from a bunch of podcasting metrosexual bloggers who say "meh"?

  12. Linux Distro War by zaguar · · Score: 3, Funny

    and paintball are in the cards Ah, the possibilities. Linux fanatics versus Linux fanatics - who will win? My money is definately not on Team Gentoo. They will strip down thier guns and fire minature paint balls "to optimize efficiency". /flamebait

    --
    "Sure there's porn and piracy on the Web but there's probably a downside too."
    1. Re:Linux Distro War by billysara · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suspect in the three days it takes the "optimisation" to occur they'll be rail-gunned to death by someone running debian i386 on a P90... ;-)

    2. Re:Linux Distro War by lokisan969 · · Score: 1, Funny

      geehz! you'll never get it! we, already, have the source for the new lazer-guided highspeed-paintball (cvs-version of course!). it is compiling right now and will be ready at day-X.

  13. Brilliant!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That, sir, was a brilliant story!

  14. Come as you are by sparkes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I might fall out of bed and roll into the city centre to say hi ;-)

    It's pretty impressive that this thing has come together at all considering it has no corporate sponsorship and is being done for the fun of the event.

    Imagine that no corporate interest just a bunch of hackers having fun. It's pre-takeover blues /. again.

    1. Re:Come as you are by rjw57 · · Score: 1

      Now I know the mighty sparkes is coming it is worth making the effort to come!

      --
      Rich
  15. Re:The Molineux! Urgh! by sparkes · · Score: 1

    Oh, bad luck Herbster, see you next year ;-)

    If your post confused people this one (from a Wolves fan) certainly will.

  16. Re:The Molineux! Urgh! by Herbster · · Score: 1

    Hey... it ain't over quite yet son ;)

  17. Re:About "podcasting"... by PremiumCarrion · · Score: 1
    Now if you'll excuse me, I have to eat some red meat
    Seems like you just came out of the closet. If you need any tips on Smoking Beef I suggest you chat to the guys over at LemonParty.
  18. Rise of the moron moderators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bwahahahaha! Some moron modded him down even though he was already posting at -1...

  19. A question of Nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if I like it, does that make me a LUG nut?
    But if I find it jarring then the sensation would be a LUG Wrench.

    Sorry but I'm an uncureable punnster, I just had to LUG those two out.

  20. why is this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    funny?

  21. Linux Link Tech Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    There is a much better Linux show out there. The Linux Link Tech Show http://www.thelinuxlink.net/tllts/

    rms was on it the other day, and its always live streaming on binrev radio http://www.binrev.com/

    the linux link is 3 or 4 guys from some lug somewhere that enjoy doing what they do. (no paid)

    the Lug radio guys are paid for what they say, and even canceled their show because they didnt get enough money.

    1. Re:Linux Link Tech Show by mrevell · · Score: 1

      Can someone mod this troll down? We aren't paid for the show, we do it because we enjoy it and because the FOSS communities need a variety of media to be healthy. The Linux Link Tech Show is certainly worth a listen, though.

      --
      Matthew Revell www.lugradio.org
    2. Re:Linux Link Tech Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the Lug radio guys are paid for what they say, and even canceled their show because they didnt get enough money."

      You're thinking of The Linux Show. Completely different to LUGRadio.

    3. Re:Linux Link Tech Show by danns23 · · Score: 1

      As pointed out, wrong show. LUGRadio is fantastic. I know they don't get paid for this, but I am sure it costs them some money.

      There are a lot of great Linux and FOSS radio/podcast shows out there. So if LUGRadio is not your bag, try LQRadio, The Linux Box Show, LinuxLog, TLLTS, or keep on searching. Don't forget DDP Hack Radio and Hackermedia! More are popping up every month. Each one is created with a little love inside.

    4. Re:Linux Link Tech Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi,

      sorry for my english but I'm not english spoken.

      However I listen both of you. I think that the lugradio is better on making interviews because they know before which questions to ask and there are no embarassing silence moments. Also they have less audio technical problems and they don't talk so much about ogg format or things that are not strictly linux related.

      While I like the fact that you talk slower (as I said above my english is very poor and for me is easier to understand). While the lugradio guys speak very fast and laugh a lot while someone is still talking, also everyone of them has a different wierd accent....and if I'm not wrong you can also hear animals noise in the background.

      ...ah I purchased on amazon all the linux link tech show episodes, but I received this:
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 1M3MYI/qid=1116183630/sr=8-2/ref=pd_csp_2/002-3501 078-0733646?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

    5. Re:Linux Link Tech Show by gg3po · · Score: 1

      Are you the same "Dan" that I hear on TLLTS? Keep up the good work. I actually like The Linux Link Tech Show even more than Lug Radio, since you guys don't all talk at the same time.

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  22. why isn't it downloadable by Barryke · · Score: 1

    Maybe its just me, but the whole podcast thing is juts so 'blowfish alike'

    Isn't it just 'downloading music to your usb/mp3-stick'?

    Never knew that it could be made so complicated :S
    Why don't they just hand over the mp3 over at the site??? (besides the rss thingy)

    --
    Hivemind harvest in progress..
    1. Re:why isn't it downloadable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is downloadable. See the "download now" box.

    2. Re:why isn't it downloadable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They do. "Podcasting" isn't actually anything to do with iPods or any other sort of portable music player; it's just an audio file tied to an RSS feed. But you can download it normally as well.

  23. Oh, that LUG! by veganjay · · Score: 0, Troll

    At first I thought the article was about:
    http://www.citybeat.com/1999-08-26/cover3.shtml

  24. FYI by isny · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's pronounced "Lug rah-dee-o". Brilliant show. Oh, and it's not profanity, it's "language".

  25. nice change of pace by maryjanecapri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i've been using Linux for about 10 years now. when i first started using it it was still an underground underdog scrapping to get a little attention. well 10 years later it has all the attention it needs but much of it the likes of cnet.com.com.com.com.com. so the majority of attention it gets these days is geared towared the business sect. so it's quite nice to hear people chatting up linux on multiple levels AND hear a bit of the old attitude creeping back into it. i'm sorry but watered-down, business-suit linux is nothing more than microsoft without the unpredictable software. i say more of this. i say Linux TV. i say let's bring back the days when linux.com was a real strong dream and a place where linux users could go and get help. don't get me wrong - i love the fact that big businesses are supporting linux. but that big money doesn't mean linux has to shed it's underdog attitude where you couldn't see a linux ad without the words "world domination" somewhere in the ad. i think the linux community should approach G4 TV and tell them they need to start a Linux TV show. hell, i'm an actor, maybe i'll pitch them the idea.

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    nature loves variety::society hates it get your variety at http://www.monkeypantz.net
  26. LUG lugs by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I downloaded the LUGRadio show where they interviewed Miguel de Icaza. I was less than impressed by the insight of the LUG guys. They seemed to think that any project which might rely on Mono or .NET could just as easily be done in Python!

    1. Re:LUG lugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you'd explain which projects cannot?

    2. Re:LUG lugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they're right. Can you prove otherwise?

  27. No info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how Slashdot blurbs automatically assume everyone knows everything. WTF is "Elite" and why should I be impressed that the creater of it, whatever it is, is going to be in the UK for a day at some point in the future?

    Elite = what Slashdot editors think of themselves

    1. Re:No info by mrBen · · Score: 1

      Elite was the quintessential game for 8-bit computers in the 80s. It was a 3d space-trading game that wasted away many a youth.

      --
      mrBen
    2. Re:No info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What! You do not know Elite! Shit, seems like I am getting really old...

  28. Re:LUGRADIO is awful: Here's why... by mrBen · · Score: 1

    eh what? They never suggested that the whole of KDE should be written in Python or C#.

    I'll also think you'll find that all 4 presenters have contributed a significant amount into the Linux community before LUGRadio ever existed.

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    mrBen
  29. Re:The Molineux! Urgh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like you spoke too soon ;)

  30. Lesbians Until Graduation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually that other type of LUG show would probably be a lot more interesting!

  31. Re:LUGRADIO is awful: Here's why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > They never suggested that the whole of KDE
    > should be written in Python or C#.

    They did!

    > I'll also think you'll find that all 4
    > presenters have contributed a significant
    > amount into the Linux community before LUGRadio
    > ever existed.

    I don't know any of these wankers until I liked the above link. Who the fuck are these idiots and what did they contribute ?

  32. Re:The Molineux! Urgh! by sparkes · · Score: 1

    ahh, you buggers. Now I have to change my ringtone from the Great Escape!

  33. Re:LUGRADIO is awful: Here's why... by mrBen · · Score: 1

    OK - for the record there was:

    1. A suggestion that KDE had become overbloated and that maybe a lighter version was needed. The suggestion of a rewrite was shot down in flames on the show, and no mention was made of the language in which to do said rewrite.

    2. The suggestion about using Python in the core of a DE was a sarcastic remark in a conversation about GNOME looking to support development in high-level languages.

    Jono Bacon has been around in Linux-related media for ages; most Linux magazines have had work by him, and he has most recently released Linux Desktop Hacks which he co-edited with Nicholas Petreley - but you've probably never heard of him either.

    Stuart Langridge (aka Aq) has been around the web development scene for a while; he wrote DHTML Utopia

    Need I go on? I think not - all out of troll food.

    --
    mrBen
  34. Re:The Rise of the Eurofags by poolmeister · · Score: 1

    Yeah Cap, good read.

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    CN=poolmeister.OU=lurkers.CN=slashdot
  35. good stuff... by sucati · · Score: 1

    I gave this a listen and found it to be quite good, although I think they think some of their humor (actually humour) is funnier than it really is. Anyhow, anyone know of any other good technology related podcasts?