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putko writes "As previously reported, OpenBSD 3.7 is released. Here's some interviews with the people behind the release about the new features, including information about which companies are complying with requests for documentation and permission to freely distribute required firmware, and which are not. Ralink Tech and Realtek 'GOOD,'Intel 'BAD.'
The next time I build/buy a wireless product, I'll want Realtek or Ralink Tech inside -- because getting software to work with it will be easier. Ralink Tech and Realtek are Taiwanese, by the way."
It's actually OpenBSD ln(3)*(3+1/e)
What's the difference between dog shit and niggers? When dog shit gets old it turns White and quits stinking. What's the difference between a jew and a pizza? A pizza doesn't scream in the oven. What's the difference between a nigger and a snow tire? A snow tire doesn't sing when you put chains on it. What would you call the Flintstones if they were black? Niggers. Why don't sharks eat niggers? They think it's whale shit. What do you call a nigger in a tree with a briefcase? Branch manager. How come there aren't any Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future, either. Why do niggers cry during sex? The Mace. How do you stop a nigger from drowning? Take your foot off the back of his head. How do you get a nigger out of a tree? Cut the rope. What did the Alabama sherriff call the nigger who had been shot 15 times? Worst case of suicide he had ever seen. What do you get when you cross a retard with a gang banger? Someone who spray paints on a chain link fence. Why do niggers stink? So blind people can hate them too. What do you get when you cross a nigger and a spic? Someone too lazy to steal. Why don't niggers take aspirin? They refuse to pick the cotton out. What do nigger kids get for Christmas? Your bike. What's a niggers idea of foreplay? "Don't scream or I'll cut you, bitch." Why do spics drive low-riders? So they can cruise and pick lettuce at the same time. What do you get when you cross a jew and a gypsy? A chain of empty retail stores. Why don't nigger kids play in the sandbox? Cats keep covering them up. What do you call an apartment full of niggers? A COON-dominium. Why are there no nigger astronauts? Their lips explode at 50,000 feet. How do you babysit a niglet? Wet his lips and stick him to the wall. How do you get him down? Teach him to say "Motherfucker." How else do you babysit a niglet? Put Velcro on the ceiling and tell him to jump. How do you get him down? Invite the spics over, blindfold them and tell them it's a piñata party. Why do jews have big noses? Air is free. What is a nigger on a bike? Thief. What's long and black and smells like shit? The welfare line. What do you call 50 niggers at the bottom of the ocean? Good start. What is the worst 3 years of a niggers life? First grade. How was break dancing invented? Niggers trying to steal hubcaps from moving cars. Why do niggers keep chickens in their back yards? To teach their kids how to walk. How do you know Adam and Eve were not black? You ever try to take a rib from a nigger? What is a nigger? Proof that skunks fuck monkeys. What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead nigger in the road? The dead dog has skid marks in front of it. What did Abe Lincoln say after a 3 day drunk? "I set WHO free?" Why are chimps always frowning? They know in a million years they are going to turn into niggers. Why is interrogating a Mexican like a pool ball? The harder you hit it the more English you get. How many jews can you fit in a VolksWagon? All of them if you put them in the ashtray. A nigger and a spic jump off the Empire State Building, who hits the ground first? Who cares. A nigger and a spic jump off the Empire State Building, who hits the ground first? The spic, because the nigger had to stop on the way down and spray paint "motherfucker" on the wall. Why don't spics have barbeques? The beans keep falling through the grill. You hear about the new car made in Israel? Not only can it stop on a dime, it will go back and pick it up. What do you call an Ethiopian with a pickle on his head? A quarter-pounder. How many Ethiopians can you fit in a phone booth? All of them. How do you start a foot race in Ethiopia? Roll a doughnut down the street. How many niggers does it take to pave a driveway? One if you spread him real thin. How do you blindfold a chink? Dental floss. How do chinks name their kids? They throw silverware down the stairs. What's the difference between a nigger and a bag of shit? The bag. What's the most confusing day in Harlem? Father's Day. When does a Black man turn into a nigger? As soon as he leaves the roo
But I thought that BSD was dead?
*ducks*
But in all seriousness, its good that BSD is still going. Not dead yet, and hopefully not for a long time.
The crappiness of the RTL8139* chipset is legendary. Do they actually make anything good?
First post!
Our plan is working -- GET THE FACTS!
The dupes!
__
Are there actually any Free 802.11g drivers for Linux? Last time I checked, the only one in the kernel was prism54, which is useless for any device you can buy at the moment. :(
If I post "its good that linux is still going" in a linux thread will I get modded up for that? And "BSD" isn't still going, the last release was 4.4BSD lite way back when. There are a few different OS's based on that code, they each have their own names, their own developers, their own goals, and they aren't all going to magically die all at the same time somehow.
Have any of you noticed the the hardware producers are standing in the way of open source software ? If you intend to install a Linux BSD or SunOS, drivers for the videocard`s, LAN card`s, TV Tuners, digital camera`s are very hard to find. On the driver CD suplied by the vendor you will find only drivers for Windows. So the point of this news should be not who are able to distribute the firmwares then why are they not suplied by the vendor on the install CD and why can`t they be included in the OS.
Think like a hacker, act like a hacker, but never become a hacker !
But I thought that BSD was dead?
No, but your joke is. I hate it when people bust on BSD like that. It's not dead. It might not be very relevant anymore, but it's not exactly dead.
That was the most depressing writeup I've ever seen. It literally jumped from topic to topic after every sentence. Hey, since we're talking about Taiwan -- China just lifted its longtime ban on tourism and agricultural trade with Taiwan. That's good because another thing that happened recently is we went bike riding!
Intel denies help with firmware, yet they donate coders to the Linux kernel (maybe *bsd's too, haven't checked out)
I guess it's safer for them to donate developers than to give away what i guess they think they have ("trade secrets")
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
All the packages in OpenBSD 3.7 packages directory are bad. They all expect libraries of previous releases, makes me think they were simply copied from 3.6, and older in a few cases. I had to make links to libc.so.39 as libc.so.38, libc.so.37 and libc.so.36 to make various apps work, same for ssl, crypt, libstdc++ and a bunch of other libs.
At least the core OpenBSD 3.7 is complete and I imagine the packages will be brought up to date in time. Till then, compile your own or use ports.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
I work in a company that most of you probably know very well. Let's just say that it's a normal modern company, nothing unusual. Some time ago, I received the email first thing in the morning from the IT department. Our network would be undergoing a major overhaul to correct the ad hoc growth it had experienced in the last year, and starting next week Internet access would be sporadic. There would also be a new firewall and security measures, replacing the old OpenBSD system I'd managed to get installed last Spring. Happy for the heads-up, I went to work right away to make sure Linux had no place on our network. This was not the first time that I had faced this threat.
One day about a year ago our network guy gets asked to draw up firewall plans for this subnet of servers we have. Our network guy was your typical GNU-slinger save that he had a cascade of flowing hair down the back of his head and not a beard hanging from his face. And yeah, you can guess what he thought those firewalls were gonna run. Fast forward two days. I'd caught wind of the plans and had charts, graphs, and comparisons written up detailing OpenBSD and Linux security. Since this GNU guy had a mullet and dressed like a slob, I got taken seriously. Not to mention my data, impenetrable by any hippy "logic." OpenBSD was the more secure, even to the beancounters and idtiot management. So thanks to me, our firewalls happily run OpenBSD and not Linux, which would have buffer-overflowed into no-man's land every other hour. The Open Source Mullet gives me a lot of dirty looks lately.
Since the Open Source Mullet had been canned, a new threat had arisen at my workplace: the Fat Perl Hacker had assumed most of the Open Source Mullet's system and network administration duties, and it was no mystery to anyone at my workplace that he had a hard-on for Linux tucked away under his enormous, cascading gut. Since he was a major suck-up and workaholic, he had a lot more credibility than the Open Source Mullet this would be a real challenge for once. Dealing with the Open Source Mullet had been cake.
That night, I went to work on my strategy. First, I would document the changes in Linux and OpenBSD since a year ago when we last went with a security plan. Linux was still at version 2.4, while OpenBSD had raced from version 2.8 to 3.1 a major revision! This was good so far, and I included the relevant diffs for each. I wondered what the Fat Perl Hacker was up to and pushed ahead with my preparations.
Tuesday morning, I went to talk with the VP of Operations, who had final say on the network project. I wouldn't leave anything to chance. But after chatting with him for a few minutes, I learned of a major monkey-wrench I hadn't expected: instead of a Unix firewall system, he was planning on installing a dedicated firewall box running Windows XP. Thankful for my fortuitous social engineering, I went back to my desk and began making over my strategy to deal with this new threat. Not only would I have to deal with Linux, I'd have to eschew the Windows option now.
Sitting in front of my iBook after work, I realized that taking on Windows XP in the same manner I was going to deal with Linux would be foolish if not wasteful. Obviously the Windows option was not about numbers, anecdotes, or experience. It was a bean-counting decision and all of the security statistics in the world wouldn't matter. Since I hadn't the foggiest about how our accountants viewed the whole operation and didn't have time to learn, I'd have implement a rapid-fire real-life assault on the Windows box, which was sitting on the VP's desk awaiting its place on the network. It was time to put on my Black Hat, and that night I stayed up until 02:00 researching Windows XP vulnerabilities. Linux would have to wait.
With just two days before the network changeover was to take place, I marched into work Wednesday morning knowing that what I did in the next few hours would decide the fate of our network security. To my su
The OpenBSD folks must ensure that all Taiwanese code is carefully examined for Trojan horses and other malware that the Taiwanese deliberately planted. The best thing to do is to simply ban the use of Taiwanese code.
As well, the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition regularly assesses computer companies to determine whether they have good environment policies and respect for workers' rights. Chinese companies (including those in Taiwan) consistently fail on both counts. Why should we condone this sort of behavior by working with the Taiwanese?
Like the Chinese, the Taiwanese have long supported the occupation of Tibet.
Our conscience requires us to reciprocate by banning the Taiwanese from participation in the Open Source movement.
The OpenBSD folks must ensure that all Taiwanese code is carefully examined for Trojan horses and other malware that the Taiwanese deliberately planted. The best thing to do is to simply ban the use of Taiwanese code.
As well, the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition regularly assesses computer companies to determine whether they have good environment policies and respect for workers' rights. Chinese companies (including those in Taiwan) consistently fail on both counts. Why should we condone this sort of behavior by working with the Taiwanese?
Like the Chinese, the Taiwanese have long supported the occupation of Tibet.
Our conscience requires us to reciprocate by banning the Taiwanese from participation in the Open Source movement.
FADE IN:
INT. A MENTAL HOSPITAL - DAY
A few patients sit around fumbling with themselves. One man
sits at a table scratching back and forth on a piece of paper
with a crayon. Another stands in a corner smoking a cigarette
and staring at the crayon guy. This is CHARLES. Another man,
KARL, sits in a chair staring at the floor and rubbing his
hands together. We cut back and forth between Charles staring
and Crayon Man scratching. After a moment, an attendant
approaches Charles.
ATTENDANT
You can't smoke in here.
Charles stares at him blankly for a moment and continues
smoking. He looks back to Crayon Man again for a moment then
looks over at Karl and then goes and sits down beside him.
CHARLES
A Mercury is a good car and that's
what I was driving that day. I've
owned a lot of cars. Different
kinds. Lots of different kinds of
cars. She was standing, this girl,
on the side of the street where
there was a chicken stand; not the
Colonel, mind you, but nevertheless
a chicken stand, and I pulled the
Mercury over and rolled down the
window by electric power. She was
wearing a leather skirt and she had
a lot of hair on her arms. I like
that. I like it a lot. It means a
big bush. I like a big bush. She
said, "Are you dating?" I said,
"yes," and she got in the car. We
pulled to a remote location, one
that she and I both felt
comfortable with and she said, "How
much can you spend?" I said, "What
it takes to see your bush. I know
it's a big one." She said "twenty
five dollars," which to a working
man is not chicken feed. I produced
the money and she put it in her
shoe and pulled up her skirt. There
before me lay a thin, crooked,
uncircumcised penis. You can
imagine how badly I wanted my
twenty-five dollars back.
INT. A HALLWAY - DAY
Two young women, MARSHA DWIGGINS, carrying a briefcase, and
THERESA EVANS, carrying two camera bags are being led down
the hallway by a GUARD.
THERESA
I don't know why you're so weirded
out, this is not San Quentin, it's
just a nuthouse. Most of these
people don't even know where they
are, they're not gonna hurt you.
MARSHA
In a few minutes we're gonna be in
a room with a killer. That doesn't
bother you?
THERESA
Hey, you're the one that wanted to
major in journalism. Anyhow, wasn't
the guy something like twelve or
thirteen when he did it, it was
twenty-five years ago, he probably
doesn't even remember it.
MARSHA
(wrinkling her nose)
Do you smell shit?
THERESA
Yeah.
They reach a door and the guard ushers them through.
INT. AN OFFICE - DAY
JERRY WOOLRIDGE stands up from behind the desk as they enter.
He's in his fifiles and looks like a school teacher, shop
class or perhaps eighth-grade science.
GUARD
These are the people from that
newspaper deal.
WOOLRIDGE
Oh yeah, from the college?
MARSHA
Yes sir.
Woolridge shakes hands with them.
WOOLRIDGE
My name's Jerry Woolridge.
MARSHA
Nice to meet you. I'm Marsha
Dwiggins and this is Theresa Evans.
She's here to take the pictures.
WOOLRIDGE
Y'all have a seat. Is this all of
you?
MARSHA
Yes sir.
WOOLRIDGE
I think the
Once he'd got the machines up and running with 3.7 we let the users try it out. It all seemed fine to start with: Openoffice was a pretty good replacement for MSOffice and the users could still do their work as normal.
Alas it did not stay that way. After a few days, I had lost count of the number of complaints received from users who could not find things they were used to (notepad even!??) or tasks they could not perform that they previously couuld on windows. The final straw came when one employee lost several hours work when Openoffice suddenly had an error reading from our database and corrupted his project.
I made the employee uninstall 3.7 from the machines and lets just say he's not with us anymore.
You werk for microsoft!!
A number of OpenBSD developers will be speaking at the CUUG meeting on tuesday the 24th. It's extremely interesting to see them discuss the stuff they do, and it's a good opportunity to ask questions.
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.
I understand your point!
;)
I just spent almost 3 hours (I know there should be a better way to handle this, but hey I am human) to upgrade OpenBSD 3.7.
I do not have a CDROM on the laptop, so I did a remote installation.
I used the instructions from http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade37.html
So I did a pkg_info > packages_installed, and then I removed all packages. Oh I forgot that I had installed the jdk-1.4. Oh well, I will recompile and download all the sources again from Sun.
Next, I installed the kernel and reboot as specified. So far so good.
After rebooting the machine, I had extracted all the files according to the instructions. Good but I had to go the server because the PC card, which has my wireless card is not detected on my laptop. Well, there is no problem because I have done it in the past. Recompile a new kernel with the appropriate memory ranges for my laptop.
After installing the new kernel and rebooting, I am about to install the new packages, which I did manually since I could not find any instructions on how to do it automatically, which by the way I have 107 packages. Yes, I know there are bunch considered dependencies.
After installing all packages, which is somewhat painful due to the manual and network bandwith requirements, I reboot to check that everything starts fine. I know that I could start the processes manually, but I wanted to check if they started automatically.
Oops, there are some errors, openldap changes (attribute errors due to version changes from 2.1 to 2.2)and missing modules for apache.
The bottomline:
3 hours downtime for email, pf not working while I was recompiling because it did not start since it did not detect wi0 (+1 hour without a firewall). I have to troubleshot multiple services as opposed to an incremental upgrade of the services, which it is supposed to make sense (ala portupgrade?). I think there should be a better way to do upgrades on OpenBSD. I understand that CD sales are part of the revenues for the OpenBSD project, but that does not should stop them to ease the upgrade process.
Well, I have to reinstall jdk-1.4 to make the servies that run on Java available again. Thank god this is for home only! I may be fired if I did this at work
"An employee suggested to me that we load 3.7 on a few machines here as an evaluation. [...] I made the employee uninstall 3.7 from the machines and lets just say he's not with us anymore."
You kicked an employee out because an evaluation that he suggested didn't work out? That is, pardon my French, completely fucked. The whole reason you do evaluations is so that you don't end up in a position where new products put people's job on the line.
Apart from anything else, from now on if an employee suddenly discovers a product that at a stroke will double productivity, halve costs and save small kittens from drowning, do you think they're going to tell you about it? No, they're going to hide behind conformity, in the hope that that way they'll keep their jobs.
Congrats, you've singlehandedly halted improvement of your company's computing infrastructure. I'm sure it'll mean far less trouble for you, right up to the point where an innovative competitor buys you up and fires everyone.
For the love of God, please learn to spell "ridiculous"!!!
Welcome to Slashdot Fuck You. Preferences Subscribe Journal Logout Sections Main Apache Apple 1 more AskSlashdot 5 more Books BSD Developers 1 more Games 6 more Hardware Interviews IT Linux 1 more Politics 1 more Science 3 more YRO Help FAQ Bugs Stories Old Stories Old Polls Topics Hall of Fame Submit Story About Supporters Code Awards Services Broadband PriceGrabber Product Guide Special Offers Jobs The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early! Developers: More on OpenBSD 3.7 Release Operating Systems Posted by timothy on Saturday May 21, @07:50PM from the quest-for-firmware dept. putko writes "As previously reported, OpenBSD 3.7 is released. Here's some interviews with the people behind the release about the new features, including information about which companies are complying with requests for documentation and permission to freely distribute required firmware, and which are not. Ralink Tech and Realtek 'GOOD,'Intel 'BAD.' The next time I build/buy a wireless product, I'll want Realtek or Ralink Tech inside -- because getting software to work with it will be easier. Ralink Tech and Realtek are Taiwanese, by the way." ( Read More... | 45 comments | developers.slashdot.org ) Hardware: Cellphedia, a SMS Social Network Service Communications Posted by timothy on Saturday May 21, @06:56PM from the this-sounds-deeply-dumb dept. Roland Piquepaille writes "Based on ideas taken from Wikipedia and dodgeball, Cellphedia allows its members to broadcast questions to its community and receive answers, using SMS text messaging on cell phones. Here is how it works, according to "Cellphedia Melds Facts with Mobile Smart Mobs" from E-Commerce Times. First, you register for free on the site and you indicate your subjects of interest. If you want to ask a question, it is sent to all the members who expressed interest in this particular subject. Finally, the first answer received by Cellphedia is sent back to you. This means that later answers, which could have been more accurate, are discarded. But this service is still very young and its creator is working hard to improve it. Read more for some examples of questions and answers stored on the Cellphedia central server." ( Read More... | 51 comments | hardware.slashdot.org ) Linux: Open Source Venture Fund Unveiled Businesses Posted by timothy on Saturday May 21, @06:04PM from the party-like-it's-1999 dept. prostoalex writes "Over the next three years Simula Labs will finance 6-8 open source startups with $10-15 million it got from venture capitalists, News.com says. The venture financing enterprise is mostly interested in hiring the founders of the project and selling the services based around product infrastructure. LogicBlaze and Mergere are among the first startups who got financing from Simula Labs, and it looks like a logo that incorporates orange and brown is required before you apply." ( Read More... | 40 comments | linux.slashdot.org ) Your Rights Online: MPAA Blames BitTorrent for Star Wars Distribution Star Wars Prequels Posted by timothy on Saturday May 21, @05:18PM from the what-do-you-burn-apart-from-witches? dept. AI Playground writes "Slyck News reports on the MPAA's press release (.doc) blaming the BitTorrent protocol for the leak of Episode III. MPAA President and CEO Dan Glickman: 'There is no better example of how theft dims the magic of the movies for everyone than this report today regarding BitTorrent providing users with illegal copies of Revenge of the Sith. The unfortunate fact is this type of theft happens on a regular basis on peer to peer networks all over the world.'" ( Read More... | 589 comments | yro.slashdot.org ) Science: NASA Offers Reward for Extracting O2 from Moondust Space Posted by timothy on Saturday May 21, @04:23PM from the what-about-non-breathable-air dept. DoubleWhopper writes "Break out the duct tape and paper clips. NASA has announced a $250,000 reward to the "first team of scientists to invent a way to extract breathable
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html
We need more support and BSD and Linux etc need to come together on this. I see the article and while it is great wifi is more supported we need more than just wifi we need a site like http://www.pricewatch.com/ that is complete with data and grade the manufactor ( A,B,C,D,F ) based upon cooperation etc. While I applaud Theo for what he has done we have a long way to go and I think Slashdot could put up such a site and even earn revenue from it ! Think of the PR ! Also I am running 3.7 and way to go Theo Happy B-day !
I wish HW manufacturers would just release the specs, because it's usually possible to hack it anyway, and closed firmware doesn't give them an edge in the marketplace, for the reason I state in the topic. I think one obstacle in their minds is that if the HW dies while using untested (by them) firmware/drivers, they might be liable. Simple enough--just state in the warranty that it only applies to officially released firmware/drivers. Maybe then we can all get on with our lives instead of living in paranoia.
It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
This is a very informative and insightful post. Please moderate it to +5 levels so that all readers can benefit.
The "BSD-is-dying troll" is:
[ ] an idiot, [ ] green, [ ] bored, [ ] Pixar animated
And therefore should be:
[ ] shot at dawn, [ ] sent to work at SCO, [ ] enlisted
Besides which, the troll is so ancient that:
[ ] Archimedes discredited it, [ ] It underwent heat-death prior to the birth of the solar system
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
-1, Drug Induced
Why is there so much trolling on this article? It's not normally so bad.
Dude, that was such a blatant troll, and you got reeled in, hook, line and sinker.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Henning Brauer: Nobody ever gave us anything back. A plethora of vendors ship OpenSSH--commercial Unix vendors (basically all of them), all of the Linux distributors, and lots of hardware vendors (like HP in their switches)--but none of them seem to care; none of them ever gave us anything back. All of them should very well know that quality software doesn't "just happen," but needs some funding. Yet, they don't help at all.
That just blows. A while back the OpenBSD team had to raise funds to acquire Dell hardware so that their CVS server could scale up. The CVS server that holds repositories for all Open* projects. You would think that one of these companies would have just donated the hardware. But nope.
Not often you see that combination of words when referring to network cards...
"Last time I checked, the only one in the kernel was prism54, which is useless for any device you can buy at the moment."
How do you mean useless? I have a Netcomm 802.11g PCI card which runs on a Prism54 chipset, and it works perfectly. Ubuntu has always detected it and set it up during installation without a problem, with or without WEP.
Does the help from Realtek mean that open source operating systems (i.e. Linux/BSD/ReactOS etc) will be able to better support the RTL8180 WiFi chipset? (if so, thats GREAT because I own a RTL8180 board :)
Lamers are lamers,
facts are facts.
FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."
NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)
OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.
*BSD in general:
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration."
--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.
he blames Apache for beeing non-free,
kills support for apdaptec controllers and seem to consider himself as the only true free software apologete - don't take him too serious - even debian includes the newer, blamed versions of apache.
Blocking a server because it sends to an email address that you deliberately put on a website for spam engines to find is extremely short sighted and will cause you to not get some number of legitimate emails.
The reason is that more and more spam detection software is starting to use callbacks to verify email addresses. So when a spam email goes to somebody elses email server and they do a callback to verify the faked sender email exists which was harvested from your website, your email server would block that remote mail server for 24 hours even though they did not send a spam email to your server. They only were verifying the email address.
I see this on a daily basis from multiple sites where a server mistakenly blocked a mail server when they did not send spam... They only were doing a callback on the mail address to make sure it exists(milter-sender is one such spam detection scheme).
I feel sorry for all the people who will read this and implement the new spam detection software as you explained it. They will end up blocking servers they shouldn't.
Here's a quote:
"And to the Linux "vendors" that regardlessly ship non-free firmware images with their OSes, I'd say that they are playing against their camp. Why would vendors ever change their policies if such things are accepted by the open source community?"
Main difference between the BSD license and the GPL license: one is from California and the other is from Massachusetts
ORN: A lot of companies have been using OpenSSH in their products (Sun Microsystems, Cisco, Apple, GNU/Linux vendors, etc.). Did they give anything back, like donations or hardware?
Henning Brauer: Nobody ever gave us anything back. A plethora of vendors ship OpenSSH--commercial Unix vendors (basically all of them), all of the Linux distributors, and lots of hardware vendors (like HP in their switches)--but none of them seem to care; none of them ever gave us anything back. All of them should very well know that quality software doesn't "just happen," but needs some funding. Yet, they don't help at all.
This seems like a stupid comment. You do work and the license it under the BSD licence. You cant complain that these companies comply 100% with the license. If you want money for it, start a company to develop that software and then sell it. You can't say "software should be free" and then complain that others dont pay for/contribute to it.
When will OpenBSD finally boot above cylinder 1024 or whatever? I am very serious about this because I love OpenBSD and would like to see it on more desktops. It has progressed much in the last 10 years.
Do we have to wait for version 5.0 before Theo "gets it?"
Rob
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