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Ground Rules for the Windows vs. Mac War

FreshlyShornBalls writes "The New York Times is running a story that I think needs to be seen by everyone on both sides of the on-going Macintosh vs. Windows debate (i.e. just about everyone who posts on Slashdot): Some ground rules for the Windows vs. Mac War." From the article: "Last week, I wrote about some of the changes Microsoft has in store for the next version of Windows, which is slated for the end of 2006. Interestingly, very few of you responded to that column, probably because so much may change in the next 19 months. But a few of you fired off diatribes about how I'm either a Microsoft 'shill' or an Apple 'apologist' (or maybe it was the other way around). It's not just me, either; it's a running sardonic joke among tech columnists that you can't even USE the word 'Apple' or 'Microsoft' without getting hate mail from somebody or other."

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  1. Oh no you didn't by Cylix · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll flame you into extinction for not mentioning Linux!

    And what about my BSD brehthren?

    I think we've been far to lax for some time... time to take up arms.

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    1. Re:Oh no you didn't by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > I'll flame you into extinction for not mentioning Linux!
      >
      > And what about my BSD brehthren?
      >
      > I think we've been far to lax for some time... time to take up arms.

      1) That's GNU/Linux to you, sir.
      2) Dead. Don't you reat Netcraft?
      3) Leave my well-regulated militia out of this!

      Now that that's over with, let's get back on topic - ground rules for the Windows vs. Mac war".

      I suggest that we start by discussing whether the Logitech 1000MX favored by many M$ users is too irreducibly complex to have evolved from the one-button mouse used by many Macintosh users.

      /closes eyes, throws match over shoulder, and runs like hell as the long weekend starts.

    2. Re:Oh no you didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I've managed to complicate the use of my MX1000, by losing the bloody charger. I'm using my 1 button mouse as a result.

      Typical Mac fanboy. Writing 'losing' when you mean 'losing.' Everyone else on Slashodot writes 'loosing.' Quit living in the past. Languidge (hah! that's a new one, but I'm a bit drunk) evolves. Use a three button mouse with a scroll wheel, and write looser, looser!
    3. Re:Oh no you didn't by FxChiP · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh no you di'int! I know you di'int!

    4. Re:Oh no you didn't by Dunkelzahn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cats and dogs, living together!! MASS HYSTERIA!!

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  2. Thank you by PaxTech · · Score: 4, Funny

    I love getting my news from Freshly Shorn Balls. In this age of no media credibility (Newsweek, NYT, I'm looking at you), Freshly Shorn Balls are clearly the answer. :)

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  3. "Rules?" by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 3, Funny
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  4. well, that's ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not just me, either; it's a running sardonic joke among tech column readers that the writers just cut-n-paste press releases.

  5. dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know what this guy's on, but Thomas the Tank Engine rules.

    1. Re:dude by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer The Little Engine That Could. He came with his own Reality Distortion Field(TM), "I think I can, I think I can!"

  6. FreshlyShornBalls by phasm42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the users-need-to-think-before-they-pick-names dept.
    How excellent.

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    1. Re:FreshlyShornBalls by jokestress · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's hope FreshlyShornBalls is the only nick he got in the process!

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    2. Re:FreshlyShornBalls by switcha · · Score: 3, Funny
      Let's hope FreshlyShornBalls is the only nick he got in the process!

      Let's hope he's a he.

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  7. Re:Bollocks by xtracto · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, who knows, maybe Windows Longhorn will be the chosed OS for the new Phantom console, which will use the Glaze3D technology.

    And, of course one of the shipping titles will be Duke Nukem Forever!

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  8. Fine, I'll start. by captnitro · · Score: 5, Funny

    When crafting your flames, follow the guidelines below to ensure the highest troll-to-signal ratio.

    1. Always mention gaming as the pinnacle of computing.

    E.g., "The Macintosh has not proven itself to the gamers market as of yet, but excels in media production."

    "Windows, whatever your complaints, has wide support for a variety of gaming technologies not yet implemented on other platforms."

    2. Refine to make sure it doesn't make sense:

    E.g., "Apples suck because my friend tommy once he tried to play a game on his apple iie and it puffed smoke and i was like wtf??!! WHERE IN THE WORLD IS CARMEN SANDIEGO??!"

    "I JUST PRESS A BUTTON IN MY WINDOWS SYSTEM CONTROL PANEL AND BACON COMES OUT!!!11one"

    3. Make sure you're l33t. If you're not, girls won't like you. They also won't like you unless everybody else is a homosexual.

    "FARGOT!! jesuz christo wtf MY 4PPL is T3H L33T BOMB ROX0R!! micro$0ft sux0rs to play fallout and i dont evan LIKE BACON"

    "YOUR MOM like to play counterstrike and my W1NDOZE MACHENE IS WIN-WIN SITUATION!!! onbly liberals like bacon cocknut"

    4. For clarity, just translate it into Spanish and ROT13 it. It's not like anybody's gonna read it anyway. Then go do your homework like your mom told you to half an hour ago.

  9. Re:Here's the article, where's my Karma? :D by richdun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your Karma is sitting somewhere near the "Plain Old Text" option.

  10. vi! by McGiraf · · Score: 4, Funny

    vi!

    1. Re:vi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      emacs!

  11. play to their strengths by mchallis · · Score: 5, Funny

    I prefer, an Apple box, runing Ubuntu Linux with a Microsoft mouse and IBM Keyboard. There is everyone happy now?

    1. Re:play to their strengths by Reverend528 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I prefer, an Apple box, runing Ubuntu Linux with a Microsoft mouse and IBM Keyboard. There is everyone happy now?

      Not sun (unless you're using it to code in Java).

  12. Everyone Is Wrong! by gbulmash · · Score: 3, Funny
    CP/M on a Commodore 128 was is and always shall be the pinnacle of operating systems.

    If you leave CP/M out of the debate, you are in league with the devil and deserve the evil fate that befalls you!!!!

    - Greg

  13. On the eternal flamewar and need for validation by Haiku+4+U · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you speak poorly
    about what I use myself
    I will beat your ass

  14. Ground Rules laid out by joeyspqr · · Score: 2, Funny

    #1) Calm, rational discussion has no place in discussions of ideology (or /. for that matter)
    #2) I am always right
    #3)????
    #4) Profit !!!
    #5) see rule #2

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  15. The end at last by MC68000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally the debate will be settled once and for all!

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  16. Silly debate by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    A Windows vs. Mac debate is as silly as a G.I. Joe vs Strawberry Shortcake debate.

    One is for boys, and the other is for girls and male homosexuals.

    Duh.

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  17. Does this mean we are going to have a real war? by glowimperial · · Score: 3, Funny

    An actual war between Windows and Mac users would be awesome. I'd love to see some cubicle to cubicle Molotov cocktail tossing.

    1. Re:Does this mean we are going to have a real war? by WankersRevenge · · Score: 4, Funny

      At my work, all the cute ladies are the mac users so the war would be very short lived. The ladies would toss the cocktails. The geeks would stare in amazement, each thinking "wow, she noticed me" as they all went up in flames.

  18. Re:Apple zelots are a double edged sword. by Valar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear that all the damned time. I'm a former computer engineering guy who has recently taken up with a group of artists and industrial designers. Obviously, mac users the whole lot (well, so am I, but at least I get my facts straight). As far as I can tell, the difference between an apple zealot and a wintel zealot is that a wintel zealot doesn't even know why wintel is supposed to be better, but the apple zealot is prepared with brochures straight from marketing.

  19. Intel processors by 0xABADC0DA · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or maybe you just didn't understand the guy? He was probably just saying you couldn't play a video and do any other math at the same time at the processor level which seem true enough to me. Probably the fact he was fat, greasy, and lacked social skills predisposed you to misinterpreting him. Yeah, ok that's still a bad image for Apple...

    ...but Intel processors are the suck. If processors weren't a prime example of market lock-in there would be no reason to use any x86 (even AMD) over Power, or over 68k back in the day. Check sandpile.org and see if you can made any sense in the instruction set.

  20. Re:Bollocks by Tim+Browse · · Score: 5, Funny
    only served to detract from your argument and make you look immature.

    Or, as we say around here, "+5, Insightful"...

  21. TFA is a shill! by This+is+outrageous! · · Score: 2, Funny
    The New York Times is runn...

    Man aren't we getting tired of the NYT zealots. Mossberg rules. Pogue sucks! End of discussion.

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  22. Re:Website for Mac vs. PC? by ziggy_travesty · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm inside of a doughnut shop and I need to find a way to get fat. Does anyone know how to do this?

  23. Re:Website for Mac vs. PC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    www.slashdot.org. It's fairly new, so you've probably not heard of it yet :)

  24. +1 Funny flamebait by rduke15 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have mod points, but I don't see +1 "Funny flamebait" in the list.

  25. Re:emacs! by snorklewacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    notepad!

    (hey where'd everybody go?)

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  26. Re:Rules? Huh? Who needs rules? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Did the Emacs vs. VI wars ever have rules?

    No it didn't, and that is why it took so long for the sensible majority to agree that Emacs had clearly won. If there were rules (assuming the scum who supported vi would follow civilized rules), the debate could have been quickly and fairly settled without unneeded name-calling.

  27. Here's how it goes down... by tentimestwenty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, I see it now:

    The Windows users building some kind of overcomplicated Molotov-cocktail which ignites with the least effort and causes most of them to get blown up. The balance of Windows users have already by chance attended Molotov-cocktail University and are certified to make the basic explosive.

    Mac users, on the other side of the office, order theirs from molotovcocktail.com. Each one comes in box so pretty that few ever remove the contents and those that do, adorn their person with multiple cocktails. Although still heavily outnumbered, they are quite skilled at throwing. The battle plays itself out to a near draw, given the ratio of Windows users left to the Mac users who can get the cocktail out of the box and through attrition there are only two users left standing.

    After that, in walks the Linux user with a mini-nuclear-bomb which he took 20 years to construct in his basement. He rids the office of both Windows and Mac users.

    Afterwards, a race of mutant Linuxes grow up to inhabit the Earth.

    1. Re:Here's how it goes down... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Some time later, both BSD users emerge from their fall-out shelters, look around, wonder if they missed anything, and then go back into their shelters to keep on working.

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  28. Re:Who are these Windows fans? by toddestan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can anyone prove me wrong? Have you heard someone actually say "I think windows is great" who didn't have MS stock options?

    If Microsoft really wants people to say "Windows is Great!", they are going to have to innovate their own version of the Reality Distortion Field(tm).

  29. Re:Newsweek not off the mark by erlenic · · Score: 2, Funny
    Notice that in that article, they define mishandling as:

    Six of those eight involved guards who either accidentally touched a Koran, "touched it within the scope of his duties" or did not touch it at all.

    Using that definition, I'm mishandling it right now, and there's not even one in the house. Here's some more of the article:

    The other two cases in which the allegation was not substantiated involved interrogators who either touched or "stood over" a Koran during an interrogation, Hood said. In one case not deemed to be mishandling, an interrogator placed two Korans on a television. In the other case, which Hood did not describe fully, a Koran was not touched and Hood said the interrogator's unspecified "action" was accidental.

    So if they touch or stand over one, they're mishandling it? That's incredibly excessive. Why don't we let those troops do their job?

  30. That's SHE to you, buddy by rjung2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's obvious you haven't read "The Little Engine That Could," or you'd realize that the locomotive in question is really a she.

    No, it doesn't make sense to me either, but I didn't write the story. Then again, the start of the story talks about how the kids in the village will love eating their fresh spinach, so it's not exactly rooted in reality...

  31. Re:Apple zelots are a double edged sword. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Funny
    The wintel zealot is prepared with brochures from marketing as well, it's just that the Apple ones are shinier, better laid out, and an absolute joy to read.

    Damn, I blew my cover, didn't I?

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  32. Flames by ultranova · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The New York Times is running a story that I think needs to be seen by everyone on both sides of the on-going Macintosh vs. Windows debate (i.e. just about everyone who posts on Slashdot): Some ground rules for the Windows vs. Mac War."

    Well I can't see it, because it requires registration, you apple-loving worm !

    Not that I'd actually use or care about either Windows nor Mac, but still...

    Windows is a living dead virus incubator which waits for the worst possible moment to keel over and crash when not sending porn spam with pictures of the goatse man to your mother, boss and neighbours. Mac is an overpriced decoration item for yuppies too stupid to learn how to use a two-button mouse or to be able to realize that a colored computer case is not high art, built on top the dying BSD kernel. GNU/Linux is a secret communist plot by hippies who like vi since it colors C code with pretty colors to turn the world into coder's paradise and sing USSR's national anthem in assembly while urinating on the smoldering remains of Microsoft HQ.

    Now, if this post seems a bit insulting, don't forget: you could have laid out your ground rules in an open forum, webblog or something; but you chose NY Times. make a better choise next time.

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