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PHRACK Final

lbolla writes ""...a glorious era comes to an end. #63 will be _our_ last PHRACK RELEASE -- ever... Phrackstaff is pleased to bring you _our_ last ever call for papers for the final release of phrack. We are preparing for a hardcover and ezine release at a major hacker convention near you! We ask everyone to submit a paper. Great care will be taken to ensure that only the best articles make it into PHRACK FINAL.""

122 comments

  1. Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't this the third time they stop?

    Or where I badly misinformed?!

    1. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shut up, I still want to know how to blue box on 5ESS without getting recorded to ANA.

    2. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the editorial staff has changed several times. I guess the current staff decided that they don't want to do it anymore and nobody else should either. Kind of arrogant if you ask me, but I guess if someone else wants to step up to the plate and revive it they will.

  2. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://phrack.org/ The following error was encountered: Unable to determine IP address from host name for phrack.org The dnsserver returned: No Address records This means that: The cache was not able to resolve the hostname presented in the URL. Check if the address is correct. Your cache administrator is webmaster.

    1. Re:WTF by incubuz1980 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Use http://www.phrack.org/

      I hate it when you have to use "www".

    2. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the GP is justified in venting some anger, since http://phrack.org/ is actually cited in the story.

    3. Re:WTF by tritonic · · Score: 1

      I agree. Only three letters - but it adds an extra nine syllables if you have to pronounce the address.

    4. Re:WTF by Karzz1 · · Score: 1

      but it adds an extra nine syllables if you have to pronounce the address
      Actually 10 syllables -- >dubaya dubaya dubaya dot".

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  3. Uh... by Malevolyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't they do a final call for papers a few months ago?

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    1. Re:Uh... by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      This also isn't the first time we've seen "the last Phrack issue".

      It happened once before.

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  4. An extra bit for their issue counter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and we could have issues up to 127

    1. Re:An extra bit for their issue counter... by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 1

      ... and we could have issues up to 255

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    2. Re:An extra bit for their issue counter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and we could have issues up to 511

    3. Re:An extra bit for their issue counter... by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have them do like IPv6: 128 bits

      Issues up to:

      340282366920938463463374607431768211455

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    4. Re:An extra bit for their issue counter... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Your sig fits perfectly with your post :)

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  5. Er... by Paris+The+Pirate · · Score: 0

    Hardly news this has been common knowledge all year.

  6. _their_ last release by SimonShine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Considering their emphasis in the official announcement, one is likely to think that they expect another body to take over the release, but haven't found any suitable. It is a common pattern to announce the end of something, then to discover this great possibility for a sequel. I have no doubt they're different.

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    1. Re:_their_ last release by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny
      It is a common pattern to announce the end of something, then to discover this great possibility for a sequel.
      Get a grip, life ain't a movie!

      Er, wait ...

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    2. Re:_their_ last release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      If life is a movie, I hope the Directors Cut doesn't suck as much as the original.

    3. Re:_their_ last release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George Lucas must have written all of my dialogue :(

  7. Bad link by HyperBlazer · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Try http://www.phrack.org/ The link (without the "www.") didn't work for me. (Server not found)

  8. Who? by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I faintly remember something about them, in the days of blueboxing and greedily awaiting the newest cDc release.

    But, uh, isn't it a little past their time? What has Phrack done, y'know, since people started using the internet instead of phone lines?

    No, I'm really asking, because my workplace proxy blocks phrack.org.

    --grendel drago

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    1. Re:Who? by ArmorFiend · · Score: 1

      What the frack is Phrack?

    2. Re:Who? by diente · · Score: 5, Informative

      Man, they made really a lot of big things, "Smashing the stack for fun and profit" in Phrack 49, its maybe the bible for actual Exploits ( BoF ). Or the Fyodor paper for Remote OS Detection.... Those where great times. In fact i dont know a single actual publication that has that professional level. Those people are real security specialist. I'll miss that e-zine

    3. Re:Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't figure out how to get to their website, then maybe the contents of the magzine are a little above your station? Stick to reading slashdot and joining in with the associated groupthink.

    4. Re:Who? by EZmagz · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I totally agree. Phrack used to be THE e-zine when it came to anything related to computer security and the like. As you mentioned, their buffer overflow in issue 49 is hands-down one of the best explanations of how stack overflows work, and is usually referenced in any current article dealing with the subject.

      One thing that turned me away from Phrack a while back (around Y2K-ish?) was the total lack of editing and their focus on newbish-related topics. Older copies of the e-zine contained a plethora of articles on advanced computer security topics, and were very well-written. Looking through the last few issues of Phrack it's painfully obvious that's not the case anymore. Current articles are geared towards script kiddies and are written in broken english.

      Of course maybe I'm just biased because I fell out of the "underground" scene around the time that the accessability of Phrack-related information became magnitudes easier to obtain and the scarcity factor was lost.

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    5. Re:Who? by grazzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Phrack lost it's glamour when they put them on the net. Lost are the days when you had to struggle to find the latest issue on your local underground bulletin board system.

    6. Re:Who? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      But, uh, isn't it a little past their time

      Someone doesn't understand the "retirement" concept.

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    7. Re:Who? by noahm · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I totally agree. Phrack used to be THE e-zine when it came to anything related to computer security and the like. As you mentioned, their buffer overflow in issue 49 is hands-down one of the best explanations of how stack overflows work, and is usually referenced in any current article dealing with the subject.

      I think a big part of the problem is that computer security research has gone mainstream. It's now very common to see Usenix's ;login: or the ACM's Communications packed full of new research. Between that and the fact that the blackhats have moved a bit further underground, it's not surprising that Phrack is filled with content that would only appeal to a script kiddie.

      noah

  9. "Rumored" return? I don't know about that. by XorNand · · Score: 2, Interesting
    PHRACK FINAL (#63) scheduled for JULY 2005 (...rumors of a PHRACK RESURRECTION in 2007 can be neither confirmed nor denied...) Placing the "rumor" at the top of your website kinda officially acknowledges it, don't ya think? It's not like there's a massive drone of speculation buzzing about the 'net. ::rolls eyes::
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    1. Re:"Rumored" return? I don't know about that. by Cougem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It probably means it's not decided yet. If they go and say 'we might make one, we might not, depends how we feel', they will be swamped with emails. If they call it a rumour then it keeps up interest, and people assume it's a done deal and shutup, and they can decide later.

  10. Url by repvik · · Score: 1

    As a test of the generic slashdot population, you will even have to think a little bit to get to our website...
    (That, or we are too un-1337 to actually have a dns-entry that forwards to www)

    1. Re:Url by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or perhaps they are resisting the lameness of the rest of the internet. www != the internet!

    2. Re:Url by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What an idiot .... 'www.' is just a subdomain. No current web server needs to have a subdomain. They will default ro 'www.' if no sub domain is provided. http://no-www.org/

  11. too bad... by lonedroid · · Score: 2, Funny

    they used a 6-bit counter :(

    1. Re:too bad... by barrkel · · Score: 0, Redundant

      A 6-bit counter only counts to 63 unsigned.

    2. Re:too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they used a 6-bit counter

      They must have been influenced by cDc! ;-)

      -The mainframe maniac

  12. That time of the year all ready? by blanks · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Is it all ready that time of the year when PHRACK makes a last call for their last issue ever?

    1. Re:That time of the year all ready? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they are "all ready". All of them.

  13. Grab for attention? by Mancat · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember them saying the same thing about their previous issue.

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  14. Check the cover of #62 by gowen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looking at the cover of their previous issue... is it any surprise that hackers have a reputation as being hairy palmed, sex-starved, sad sack porno hounds?

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    1. Re:Check the cover of #62 by shaitand · · Score: 1, Funny

      I suspect the reason for the cover on their previous issue AND the reputation is that hackers ARE hairy palmed, sex-starved, sad sack porno hounds.

    2. Re:Check the cover of #62 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What are you talking about?

      Man, people who like Budweiser much be hairy palmed, sex-starved, sad sack porno hounds because every commercial I see has young women all over the place.

      Ah man! I realized there are tons of sex-sells ads. Everyone except me must be hairy palmed, sex-starved, sad sack porno hounds.

      Good thing I think women suck. I never want to see one nekkid again. Yuck.

      Pfffft, moron.

    3. Re:Check the cover of #62 by gowen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a difference between using sexual imagery to promote your product and shamelessly putting a badly-drawn, scantily clad woman on the cover of your computing magazine.

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    4. Re:Check the cover of #62 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, people who like Budweiser much be hairy palmed, sex-starved, sad sack porno hounds because every commercial I see has young women all over the place.

      Well they are. What's your point?

  15. OMFG!!! by emoticon · · Score: 1, Funny

    I heard they're gonna stop releaseing TAP too!!!!

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  16. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Who announces farewell tour...

  17. SummerCon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Summercon, http://www.summercon.org/ once run by the folks at Phrack is this week in Austin, TX. I wonder if any of the Phrack alumni will attend and what they will say about the final Phrack.

    1. Re:SummerCon by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Isn't Summercon supposed to be in Atlanta? HoHoCon is in Austin.

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    2. Re:SummerCon by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      Summercon moves around. It's been hosted in a lot of different cities.

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  18. Final Call For papers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't they do a "Final" call for papers on Full-Disclosure a good 3 months ago? Could it be that nobody wants to submit and article to an E-zine that you've turned into a joke ... supporting Defcon even.

  19. Gone....for the moment by Red+Moose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Phrack has been on a "final issue ever" several times. There's very little going on these days in it and the main contributors seem to be idiots with very little l33t sk1llz. Gone are the days of VAX hacking, the best techniques for trashing and how to make petrol bombs. These days everyone has open access to all of this information and more with google and basic internet. I wonder what happened to Taran King and Knight Lightning .......

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    1. Re:Gone....for the moment by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I wonder what happened to Taran King and Knight Lightning

      "Operation Sundevil", an attempt to crackdown on the Legion of Doom cracking and phreaking group, happened. Craig Neidorf (Knight Lightning), was indicted, subjected to search and seizures by the US Secret Service, brought to a jury trial and finally had all charges dropped by the prosecution. He's kept a pretty low profile ever since, or at least has been a lot more careful with covering his tracks. Taran King appears to have been spooked and dropped out of the scene around the same time, or is also being a lot more careful.

      In any case, there doesn't seem to be much on the pair since the end of the crackdown started by Operation Sundevil in the early 1990's. Perhaps this "final" issue of Phrack should include a "Where are they now?" article on past editors and other once prominent members of the Phrack community. Then again, given the number of convictions that were successful, that's not very likely to make for a very upbeat article about hacking to go out on, is it?

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    2. Re:Gone....for the moment by tastytang420 · · Score: 2, Funny

      They went to work at UUNet.

    3. Re:Gone....for the moment by m50d · · Score: 1

      Surely having been arrested and got off should vindicate what he does?

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    4. Re:Gone....for the moment by Jardine · · Score: 2, Informative

      Surely having been arrested and got off should vindicate what he does?

      If by "got off" you mean got $100,000 in debt in lawyers fees before the government finally dropped the charges, then yeah.

    5. Re:Gone....for the moment by Lew+Payne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're not kidding... I wonder what happened to Stan Cisneros (LOD kiddie from the 80's) who messed with COSMOS and RC-MAC one time too many, Jude Saucie [sp] of 8BBS, Bob West L.A. (aka Robert Lipman, concert pianist), Mike West Hollywood (aka Michael Williamson, pipe organ repairman), Mark Van Nuys (aka Mark Ross), Lenny DiCicco, Steve Pasadena (aka Steve Rhoades), and Roscoe (aka Lewis DePayne).

      If you know how to get hold of any of the above, please let me know!

    6. Re:Gone....for the moment by Calroth · · Score: 1

      "Operation Sundevil", an attempt to crackdown on the Legion of Doom cracking and phreaking group, happened. Craig Neidorf (Knight Lightning), was indicted, subjected to search and seizures by the US Secret Service, brought to a jury trial and finally had all charges dropped by the prosecution...

      For those with a few hours to spare and a desire to learn what happened back in 1990 with Operation Sundevil, Phrack, the feds, etc. etc. - read The Hacker Crackdown, by Bruce Sterling, available at http://www.chriswaltrip.com/sterling/hackcrck.html .

    7. Re:Gone....for the moment by Stonewolf57 · · Score: 0

      I actually read an e-book awhile back, which was concerned with the early history of hacking and phreaking, and to a large degree Phrack (The Hacker Crackdown). Good reading. Apparently, Knight Lightning had a major involvement in said crackdown, and ended up choosing to make his living in a totally different industry altogether. As the book mentioned it, I believe it was civil rights lawyering. It's an older piece of work about '93 or '94 I think, so it's kind of out-of-date. For hacking history, however, it's good reading. Not sure what happened to Taran King, I'd kinda wondered about that myself. The text is available for free, and it's not terribly hard to find it. Google it if you're interested.

    8. Re:Gone....for the moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever considered a top-secret hacker's trick called [looks left, looks right] [whispers] www.google.com?

    9. Re:Gone....for the moment by Lew+Payne · · Score: 1

      > Ever considered a top-secret hacker's trick called [looks left, looks right] [whispers] www.google.com?

      Yes, I have... you make it sound as if google is the answer to all questions. Are you aware of its limitations? Especially when it comes to people who do not participate "on the net" except for an occasional email exchange via their ISP account?

      Another problem is the useless garbage you have to sort through when all you have is a name. For an example of this, type "Lew Payne" into google and see for yourself.

    10. Re:Gone....for the moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey stony, how ya doin?

      me, not so good. I think I'm getting a divorce. My wife is so totally into windows, that I just can't take it.

      she's a damn microserf, and it drives me nuts. oh yeah, and she yells a lot, and has ugly feet.

      maybe i'll read your book suggestion, and find out a way to hack her brain. you of course, need a brain for me to hack.

  20. what happened to them? by th0mas.sixbit.org · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two words: burn victims.

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  21. netcraft confirms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    PHRACK is dead

  22. People still read phrak? by jleq · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought that the entire community of real hackers moved on to more intelligent, less "omfg 1337 lol" material, like 2600. For every interesting article in Phrak, there are 2 uninformative or just-plain-dumb articles.

    1. Re:People still read phrak? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Are you kidding me? Have you even looked at a phrack issue in the last 10 years? 2600 is far from technical (considered a joke by so called "real hackers"), and anything published in phrack semi-recently is at a level far beyond 98% of the slashdot crowd's comprehension.

    2. Re:People still read phrak? by andreyw · · Score: 3, Informative

      I will second that. The GP just doesn't know what he is talking about. I have no experience with 2600, so I won't say anything about that, but recent Phrack issues are far from "omfg 1337 101".

      http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=62&a=6
      http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=62&a=12
      http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=62&a=13
      http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=54&a=7

      GP clearly must be kidding.

    3. Re:People still read phrak? by jleq · · Score: 1

      I was kidding... who the hell modded me informative?

      Ah, the joys of confusion.

    4. Re:People still read phrak? by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      For every interesting article in Phrak, there are 2 uninformative or just-plain-dumb articles.

      This, you post on Slashdot.

      Comedy gold.

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  23. Issue #63? by Spez · · Score: 1

    Wasn't supposed to be issue #63 their last issue?

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  24. What will the last edition be titled? Phrack IT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or maybe Frak! IT

  25. DUPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch out for the whammies, Mr. Larsen! Thanks for playing the original story game. All contestants playing the original story game receive a year's supply of melba toast. It goes down smooth as breastmilk!

  26. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was announced months ago, in fact, I even submitted this months ago. Lots of editors have resigned from Phrack and Phrack has "died" many times in the past. Each time the quality of the articles has improved with the new influx of editors. If it dies, so be it. If not, the next generation will probably be an improvement.

  27. why? phracking is considered terrorism nowadays by t35t0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With a list of possible submissions including:

    - hacking
    - phreaking
    - spying
    - carding
    - reverse engineering
    - anarchy
    - conspiracy

    could all get you labeled as a terrorist, charged by the DMCA, and in general land you in GITMO. The homeland security bill and other draconian laws are the reason why this will be the last Phreak ezine. This is because all the good hackers have gone underground (any of these themes remind you of Farenheit 451?).

    It's sad when the free exchange of information, ideas, and determining security exploits outside of anonymity could get you into lots of trouble.

    1. Re:why? phracking is considered terrorism nowadays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did you capitalize "Gitmo"? Are you under the impression it's an acronym?

    2. Re:why? phracking is considered terrorism nowadays by hab136 · · Score: 1
      Why did you capitalize "Gitmo"? Are you under the impression it's an acronym?

      According to the Navy it's "NAVSTA GTMO", capitalized. So "GTMO" is correct, "gitmo" as the pronunctiation of GTMO is correct, but "GITMO" is wrong.

      Now, who pissed in my Cheerios?

  28. Wow... af 4 months old dupe... by xtracto · · Score: 3, Informative

    No news... I saw it already in that 0-day news site...

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  29. Acetylene Balloon Bomb by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've always gotten a kick out of this article in the first issue of PHRACK:

    http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=1&a=7

    In it, the poster spells out a recipe for an acetylene balloon bomb. Fill up a plastic bag with acetylene, put some rocks in it, put some of those little fun-spans in it, then throw it out the window... Always cracks me up when I think about some fucktard throwing fun-snaps into a bag filled with rocks and acetylene/oxygen...

    Maybe it's because of articles like this that PHRACK is dead.

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    1. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by Husgaard · · Score: 4, Funny
      Maybe it's because of articles like this that PHRACK is dead.
      No PHRACK is alive and asking for submissions.

      It is because of articles like this that PHRACK's readers are dead ;-)

    2. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

    3. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 1

      good point! haha

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    4. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always cracks me up when I think about some fucktard throwing fun-snaps into a bag filled with rocks and acetylene/oxygen...

      Well, aren't you the little sociopath...

    5. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by fv · · Score: 2, Interesting
      the poster spells out a recipe for an acetylene balloon bomb.

      Pshaw -- everyone knows to ignore their bomb making advice. It is Phrack's Blackjack advice you should follow:

      Bet big when you want to win big. Lose a big hand? Double your bet. Lose again? Double it again. Lose again? Goto 1 ... Eventually, odds are, you will win all your money back, AND THEN SOME!

      But in all seriousness -- Phrack rocks. I released my Nmap Security Scanner in P51 and OS detection in P54. I wish they wouldn't call P63 Phrack final, as I expect it to flourish again under more capable/interested hands. That may even happen soon if they select the next editor(s) well. Let us all hope so. The underground and hobbyist researchers deserve a voice. It is rather refreshing and nostalgic to see portions of the security community that haven't yet sold out.

      -Fyodor (Insecure.Org)

    6. Re:Acetylene Balloon Bomb by jnf · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, its going underground and may resurface in a year or two. There was a lot of talk a bit back of it going underground, back when the project mayhem thing was still brand 'new'.

      In other news, congrats on both of your papers, while both slightly dated these days they comprise of core ideas and methodologies of less-dated techniques today. Regardless of where you stand on the subject, you are proof of the concept of an educated and able whitehat, cheers and thanks.

  30. Shame by eneville · · Score: 1

    This is a shame. Phrack was a large mag back then, and I think it should regroup and change their image a little and cover today's technology a little more, although possibly too big now for a single mag to cover. Least it's free. Does anyone remember Spellcasters ASM tutors?

  31. I'm a script by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or visually impaired I can't get those things right about 50% of the time.Sorta like a PK Dick story I think I'm human but I'm really a script.

  32. those were the days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After they moved away from their 'anarchy' roots phrack become a very informative publication - much better than the crap you usually get in 2600(how to phreak walmart phones etc).

    What ever happened to zines? Are there still any decent h/p zines being released?

  33. Another Era Death by pngwen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems that all the fun stuff in the technology world is going away. The whole mentality of the industry has changed. I remember when computers were neat and fun, now they are just about as amusing as a toaster.

    Remember all the innovative games? Remember when new things came out? Remember when you spent hours in the basement trying to trick it all into doing things it wasn't supposed to?

    I do.

    But those days are long gone. I think it's because you can do too much with cheap hardware now. There is no challenge. Getting that last few compute cycles out of a program saves you a millionth of a microsecond. Who cares? The machines are too capable, so there is no challenge, hence no fun.

    Now to go write some code for my hp48. At least it's still sufficiently slow!

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    1. Re:Another Era Death by TDO48 · · Score: 1

      Yes! Still have this beautiful HP48GX on my desk.... with my custom made memory expansion cards, digital I/O, and temperature sensors!

      That was fun! And it's still fun, but not really having the time to do it anymore!

    2. Re:Another Era Death by mogwai7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Use microcontrolers! You can do a lot of stuff with them and are ultra cheap. Think of them as one of those old computers on a chip. :) Coding them in assembly and building circuits for them to interface to is a good challange. Microchip gives free samples of their stuff and has excelent docs.

    3. Re:Another Era Death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Remember all the innovative games? Remember when new things came out? Remember when you spent hours in the basement trying to trick it all into doing things it wasn't supposed to?

      No, I was out getting laid.

  34. bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good riddance phrack
    long live PHC

  35. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:07:11 +0000
    From: dontreply@phrack.org
    Subject: [Full-Disclosure] PHRACK #63 CALL FOR PAPERS
    [...]
    Phrackstaff is pleased to bring you our LAST EVER CALL FOR PAPERS for
    the FINAL RELEASE of PHRACK.

  36. 1337? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow you must be an Xtr3m H4x0r....loser.

  37. dip sheite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is the final and the need mad good papers
    of course theyre gonna post multi...foo

  38. Obligatory Spaceballs quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Good thing I think women suck.
    It's Mega Maid. She gone from suck to blow.

  39. But what if... by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    ... the answer I get here is better, more informative, and more condensed than what I can get from archive.org, Google's cache or whatever?

    --grendel drago

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  40. Put PHRACK in the schools by zbik · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It's easy to laugh at maladjusted PHRACK kiddies now, but it was partly thanks to its technical articles that I discovered my career path in the early 90's. I was at an age when many young males feel trapped by society and develop an undeniable desire to effect their will on the universe, often through such crude means as vandalism, setting fires, or blowing things up. Through a bundle of floppy disks full of PHRACK text files I became engrossed in learning the inner workings of the telephone infrastructure: trunks, LEC's and other mysteries behind the mundane.

    It was in this way that I came to an understaning that technology is not read-only; not simply a malevolent behemoth controlled by presidents and CEO's to manipulate a passive citizenry; but is in fact waiting to be created and tinkered with by such inquiring minds as my (former) self. Although my initial motives may have been anti-social I have since been able to contribute to society in a way that is, on balance, positive. I hope PHRACK continues to inspire others in the same way.

    That and Steven Levy's Hackers probably saved me from a destiny as an ineffectual philosophy professor or some other brand of malcontent fat-assed intellectual.

    1. Re:Put PHRACK in the schools by Pandora's+Vox · · Score: 2, Informative

      "That and Steven Levy's Hackers [gutenberg.org] probably saved me from a destiny as an ineffectual philosophy professor or some other brand of malcontent fat-assed intellectual."

      Replace phrack with 2600 and you have the story of the last 2 years of my life :-)

      Hackers is such an important book. It and The Soul of a New Machine.

    2. Re:Put PHRACK in the schools by tweedlebait · · Score: 1

      I second that.

      Hackers is my most loaned and most re-purchased book- which was a bitch when it was out of print for a few years. Once it cost me $128.00 from a univ. library (paperback edition!) after a friend borrowed it from me and didn't return it.

      I was probably in 5th grade when the book came out and I got my first copy. At that age it gave me a lot support and confirmation that hackers (who were getting tons of bad press) were not all about BomBZ and crashing systems and such and most were more interested in exploring and understanding.

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  41. Being nostalgic by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I honestly didn't know Phrack was still around. I'd like to say it's sad to see them going, but then again I haven't seen or heard anything relating to Phrack in 15 years.

    Phrack conjures up memories--now viewed through rose colored glasses--of a time when computing, as well as the culture surrounding computers, seemed far more interesting then it is today. Late at night watching text files stream across a black and green 80 column monitor, being pumped to my beloved Apple //e at 300 baud (When I finish school and get a job, someday I'll be able to afford a 1200 baud modem...I can't wait!!).

    I remember sitting at my desk spitting Dr. Pepper through my nose reading text files on BBS systems from the likes of "The Cult of the Dead Cow", or the seminal "How to Have Fun in K-Mart", or viewing works of the Phrack variety on hacking, cracking, and security with immense curiosity. It was great, because this computer I had was giving me a window into a world populated with people who, in many respects, were just like me.

    Then as the 80s turn to the 90s, I got my first shell account on the Internet, and traded love of BBS systems for IRC, Usenet and gopher. A few years later, hypertext markup hit, and com programs like Telemate, Procomm, or Qmodem quietly were replaced by Trumpet winsock.

    It didn't take long for the Internet to catch on, and a few years later IRC and discussion boards turned from being meeting points for curious, likeminded nerds to massive bland playgrounds seemingly populated by the same kind of people I initially used computers for to help get away from.

    Then again, maybe the olden days weren't really as great as I remember them.

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    1. Re:Being nostalgic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember those days too. I once got to see Chris Goggans (Erik Bloodaxe) and Scott Chasin (Doc Holliday) -- of course, being 13 I was just in awe at the time.

      and com programs like Telemate, Procomm, or Qmodem quietly were replaced by Trumpet winsock.

      Now that I'm all grown up, I've started bringing the tools of my childhood into the current era. Qmodem(tm) lives again for those of us who want zmodem over ssh with "ANSI color" and usable scrollback -- without having to resort to Xterm.

  42. Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a shame, really. But fear not, there is a new hacking webzine brewing on the horizon.

    Check out EuroHacker Magazine [nyud.net] (yes, the Coral Cache link may be a bit slow but getting Slashdotted means infinite slowness) which is a European webzine about hacking, guns and survival (we accept articles from non-Euros though).

    If you're into neat hacks, general paranoia, pro-gun issues and survivalism, I think you oughta check out our zine and maybe consider contributing an article or so! We're only at three issues thus far but we need all the help we can get. //EuroHacker editor (get in touch at eurohacker@gmail.com)

    1. Re:Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, fscked upp the link... EuroHacker Magazine

  43. I have no chance of getting an article accepted... by sootman · · Score: 1

    ...but if I'm lucky I'll be able to make it into the last-ever loopback!

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  44. WWW is 666 by NRAdude · · Score: 0

    ``W'' ( pronounced ``vov'') is the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet and, in the Hebraic number system, has traditionally stood for the number 6, so WWW = 666

    Source

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    1. Re:WWW is 666 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:WWW is 666 by The+Tyrant · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot's style of hiding posts that have been modded down does lead to some interesting threads, where else would you get the argument "I hate having to add www. to a domain" being dismissed with "so what? the number of the beast is 616 anyway"

  45. Slashdot - News for wanna-be h4x0rs. Stuff tha... by paranoidgeek · · Score: 1

    Really, is this news for nerds ? I have read a few PHRACKs and most of them are just pointers for people with a little skill that wanto be a h4x0r. Really. It should be called "Script kiddy journal" and not make it on the /. front page.

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  46. phrack was a social engineering experiment... by bani · · Score: 1

    ...testing how much BS they could spew before anyone would notice. the very first article is a prime example.

  47. FORK!! INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who gives these guys the right to 'cease' publishing Phrack??

    Information wants to be free!! Fork it!!

    teflon

  48. Subdomain?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiot?!?!
    Try a pointer to a machine! the first segment is the last bit (segment) given to the dns in which the dns returns an IP address of the HOST! if it was s1.www.yourdomain.com then yes it would be a subdomain. However by rule of thumb any self respecting web admin will have www in the Host segment of a url and have that point to A machine or AN IP address (even a pool of adresses, if need be.) of a load balanced cluster. Internetworking 101! dumbass!

    1. Re:Subdomain?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name
      URL: http://www.example.com/ Server name: www.example.com Domain name: example.com Subdomain: www Second level domain: example Top level domain: com

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdomain
  49. Gentoo fanboy alert! by Calroth · · Score: 1

    "emerge phrack-all"

    Or, for alternatives, http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=phrack

  50. Not that worried by Stonewolf57 · · Score: 0

    Ah, I'll stick to 2600, I think. I've read a bit of Phrack, and I've always noticed that they're more focused on hacker community than on actual hacking. I mean hell PWN, the general attitude, some of the content of the articles... Aside from one, maybe two notable exceptions, their articles aren't terribly informative (IP Spoofing De-mystified was a good read when they printed it; you can still find copies of the article all over the web). Besides some nostalgic hacker will probably acquire the license, or otherwise reproduce the magazine in about 10 to 15 years anyway.

  51. Phrack's last issue was predicted at about #5 by Heymoe · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember The Wacko Cracko Brothers who where supposed to have relaunched TAP and crush Phrack? Nineteen later Phrack is still on the verge of disappearing.

    It was a hell of a ride. Randy, Craig and John (Forest Ranger) were good friends. I hope they are doing well.

    Another poster already said it, now most of the things we wrote about would be considered terrorism by the same folks who (oops) missed the REAL terrorists and later found that invoking the "T" word gets press coverage and unlimited funding from Congress.

    As long as there are secrets there will be a group of adolescents who will find it. Whether they call it "Phrack" or not is less important than sharing the information.

    Hats off to the contributors who probably had no idea that Metal Shop Private would sort of live on for almost two decades.

    The hacker formerly known as Data Line.

  52. Bleh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's fair to say that Slashdot is the graveyard of Phrack's 'rebel without a cause' hacker mentality.

    Basically, anyone working in network security, programming, or anyone with cell phone expertise to the point where they could write an article for Phrack, is probably browsing Slashdot right now from their workplace.

    When all of the pale-faced, Kool-Aid moustached, D&Ders realized they could make six figures working for the good guys, all of the old 'zines and basically the whole "scene" died.

    The Phrackers of yesteryear are now the moms and dads dropping their kids off to school on the outskirts of the planned community they live in.

    Long live the anti-social hacker who did it for the thrill and for the knowledge that he or she was smart enough to fool 'em all.