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anaesthetica writes "The Christian Science Monitor is carrying a story on new directions in game design. The article notes that big gaming companies are not pushing innovation beyond taking advantage of newer hardware. New areas of innovation are coming from education, training, and online communities." From the article: "Online games have the potential to transform entertainment into a global-community exercise, breaking down borders, cultural and language barriers, and even political prejudices...I doubt any other form of entertainment holds out that promise...We have only scratched the surface of what [interactive entertainment] can be."

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  1. Re:Make Something New by ThePuD · · Score: 3, Informative

    errr, doom used bsp trees for its level format.

  2. Not Exactly by mfh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well technically you are right, but Doom lacked full BSP implementation -- it still had a lot of 2d "drapes".

    But that was a nice try.

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  3. The Christian Science Monitor is NOT Christian by meatflower · · Score: 5, Informative

    from Wikipedia.org:
    The Christian Science Monitor is an international newspaper published daily, Monday through Friday. Started in 1908 by Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of the Church of Christ, Scientist, the paper does not use wire services and instead relies largely on its own reporters in bureaus in eleven countries around the world. Reporters at one time were drawn largely from church members but this no longer holds true.
    Despite its name, the Monitor was not established to be a religious-themed paper, nor does it directly promote the doctrine of its patron church. However, at its founder Eddy's request, a daily religious article has appeared in every issue of the Monitor. Eddy also required the inclusion of "Christian Science" in the paper's name, over initial opposition by some of her advisors who thought the religious reference might repel a secular audience.

    1. Re:The Christian Science Monitor is NOT Christian by damsa · · Score: 3, Informative

      On the other hand, the Washington Times is owned by the Moonies.

  4. Re:all i want to know by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

    If it easy to develop, publishers won't invest $10 million to develop something any home programmer could write on their own PC

    There is at least one Flash game:

    Curiously Strong All Night Long

    And there is Hapland, but that is probably more of a puzzle game.

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  5. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Surprisingly, despite being founded by one of the most retarded sects of Christianity, the Christian Science Monitor is actually a reliable news source.

  6. Descent by rufusdufus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quake was not the first true 3D game. Descent was fully 3d 2 years before Quake.

    1. Re:Descent by lnjasdpppun · · Score: 5, Informative

      Descent was an awesome game and it highlights a problem I see with the game industry, or maybe the game audience.

      Because it was *full* 3D in that you could move in any direction no restrictions at all, people had trouble learning to play it. I could easily beat semi-new players 50-0 if I cared to because they couldn't move properly in a 3D space (and my mentor could easily beat me 50-10 if he wanted). I have a demo of me flying rings around someone killing them with flares... Because it was hard to learn how to play people didn't spend time on it and it wasn't as sucessful as other games such as Doom/Quake.

      I see this problem in other games too, like Natural Selection, it's a great game but it's very complicated and people don't spend the time learning how to play it. Complicated games will never become as popular as the flavour of the month straight FPS.

      Counter-Strike is the most popular game on the internet because it's easy to figure out what to do and it has a low "skill-multiplier" ie its fucked up hitboxes (and spray weapons) add a large amount of randomnes to the game which replaces part of the skill required with pure random luck. Quake3 is pretty easy to figure out, but it has a high skill-multiplier so the newbies hardly get kills. Since they can't get kills they leave and play something like CS because not getting kills isn't much fun.

    2. Re:Descent by jaseparlo · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not real 3d though, you are still only moving in 2d space. Try Elite, released in 1984, full movement in 3 dimensions!

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  7. Re:A game I would like to see by ninjamonkey · · Score: 2, Informative


    I would like to see a game where you take on religious zealots.

    How about Ultima 7?

  8. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Did you mean this comic?

  9. Re:A game I would like to see by jasontheking · · Score: 2, Informative

    try thief and thief 2.
    In the first game you take on a bunch of hardcore religious types called the hammers. You discover in the game that they don't have any problems with locking people up in their own prisons , torturing them , even removing body parts. (hands, genitals, etc)

    In the second game the hammers have morphed into another religon called the mechanists (but still bow to the same god). These guys are worse then the hammers. They are turning "street scum" into robots, for use as servants for the richer people in the city. At the end of the game , you discover the whole point behind the excercise , and just how nuts the leader of the order (karras) is.

    There's a game called "theocracy" too , never played it.

    Take a look at this page (Spcifically the quote at the top). So is the US a theocracy yet?

  10. Re:Make Something New by compass46 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone who actually reads the newspaper regularly, no I wouldn't expect such a simplistic idea from them...

    The Christian Science Monitor tends to be one of the more liberal newspapers in the US. I wouldn't classify them ideologically with papers like the Washington Times. The CSM is also not about spreading the the Christian Science church's doctrine. It was started by Mary Baker Eddy to provide fair and accurate reporting. This was a response to attacks on her from a Joseph Pulitzer newspaper.

    For a more indepth explnation:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/aboutus/about_the_monitor .html

  11. Re:A game I would like to see by shadowzero313 · · Score: 2, Informative

    don't know if they're religious, but starcraft has zealots. Also you can blow up a cathedral in Fallout, and slaughter a cult in Fallout 2.

  12. Re:all i want to know by apoc.famine · · Score: 3, Informative

    One word: KOL. Free.

    http://www3.kingdomofloathing.com/login.php

    Think NetHack with stick figures and a lot more humor merged with something like Zork. It's amazing, once you get the hang of it. Try it for 2 days. You'll be hooked forever.

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  13. Re:A game I would like to see by Rallion · · Score: 2, Informative

    You get to slaughter a cult full of Scientologists.

    It rules.

    Hmm...where's my Fallout 2? It takes a while to be able to kill them all, if you don't know how to get the best equipment early (and I can't remember the tricks) but it's worth it.

  14. Re:Funny quote from article by CylanR77 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only online game that I know of that encourages cooperation among players in this fashion rather than encouraging conflict is A Tale in The Desert.

    To most people who are used to the "typical" behavior of mmog players, ATITD is a very weird experience. Weird and boring, but if you're the type for the sort of gameplay that it offers it has the potential to be a rewarding gaming experience.

    The game draws people who aren't your typical gamer, and they tend to act in a very compassionate manner toward their fellow players. But, the game fills a niche and as such there are only a couple thousand players of it total. Everyone else gets their kicks by trampling all over the n00bs in other games.

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  15. Re:All is not sweetness and light by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Americans have always been a$$s in games... played CS recently?

    Try a Non-U.S. server.

    Any game is better on a Non-U.S. server...

  16. Re:all i want to know by kaellinn18 · · Score: 2, Informative

    First off, if you haven't played either Syberia or The Longest Journey, pick those games up now. Those are both phenomenal adventure games done in the 2D style (although the models are 3D).

    Second, The sequel to The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, will be coming out at the end of this year (I think; you might have to check up on that one).

    Third, if you would like a fun (but short, and kind of unfinished) online flash adventure game, I recommend: The Mystery of Time and Space.

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