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Graphics Don't Matter

Dave Long writes "My column at GamerDad features some musing on how unimportant graphics are becoming to enjoyment of games. Everything looks great today which removes the excitement of that bullet point on a game box. There's some historical context and speculation on next-gen consoles and graphics' effect on consumers." From the article: "I guess we're getting closer to photo-realism, but I just don't care. The games shown don't look markedly better than anything from this generation. I guess they're impressive in a 'that's close to the movies now' kind of way but the graphics aren't changing gameplay in any way that I can see. It just makes old types of gameplay look prettier. For the people who absolutely adore technology and this incessant need to replicate the real world, there will certainly be things to cheer in the next generation. I'm sure I'll eventually buy the new consoles myself and be at least modestly excited at the graphics, but I've just grown so accustomed to things looking nice on current machines that there's no 'wow' factor anymore."

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  1. Well... by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Better is... better.

    Gran Turismo 4 is light years beyond the original Gran Turismo. If I was a late adopter, I would be WOW'd (BIGTIME) in moving from a PS1 (Gran Turismo 1) to PS2 (Gran Turismo 4).

    I imagine the same thing will happen, in time, with the new generation.

    Because we are video game addicts, we (I assume the poster is like me, in being somewhat addicted to getting my favorite latest games) are constantly upgrading, and getting the latest release, etc. GT1 - GT2 - nice difference. GT2- GT2, really nice difference. GT3-GT4, somewhat nice difference (read: difference==improvement).

    But the GT1 - GT4 hop is unbelievable.

    Now use the above analogy with any of your favorite games. Final Fantasy VII vs. Final Fantasy X-2? Huge.

    Grand Theft Auto 1 vs. Vice City/San Andreas? Unbelievably huge difference.

    In 2 or 3 years when the best of the best come out for the next gen consoles, it will blow the pants off whatever came out in the early months of the current generation consoles, IMHO.

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  2. I have always felt this way by pthor1231 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, just look at games like Final Fantasy 7. It had a great story, the people looked retarded. Didn't stop me from playing the hell out of it. IMHO, developers focusing too much on graphics actually makes a game suck, because they don't put enough effort into making the game have a compelling story, or, for that matter, making the game long enough to justify a pricetag of 50 dollars (or more). Just look at games like Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, Fable, God of War. These were all good games with pretty cool graphics, but they were just flat out too short for what it should have been.

  3. To a point.. by grub · · Score: 4, Funny
    .. ala zork, etc, but some games are built around graphics. Imagine Doom3 without graphics and a Zork like interface:
    You are in a large room covered in blood. To the right a Revenant is watching you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revenant. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revenant. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revenant. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revenant. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    The Revenant falls mortally wounded to the ground.
    Weeee!
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  4. graphids DO matter by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ... but just not in the way that most people think.

    Will it make any difference to me if each individual drop of water in a waterfall is individually rendered and given its own physics? No. But will it matter if the waterfall doesn't look like a real waterfall or doesn't seem to fit? Yes.

    It's not about how photorealistic something looks, but whether or not the art style used enhances the game by making you feel as if you're there. After a certain point, the graphics won't get any better. We'll be able to pump out more polygons than we know what to do with. Game designers need to use them to create a world that we can immerse ourselves in.

    For example, I absolutely love the graphical style used in Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2. The world I'm exploring feels so much deeper than Halo 2's. Don't get me wrong, Halo 2 has excellent graphics, but they just weren't used to design the same type of rich world that Metroid has.

  5. Doy by Apreche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some people are real gamers. They care about games. These people don't care about graphics, only gameplay.

    There are others who are not gamers. They just happen to be people who play or enjoy playing games. These people are often prejudice against games with less graphics and towards those with better.

    Just like people who care about movies often go to see movies based on quality regardless of budget, while people who simply enjoy movies see big budget blockbusters.

    The key is that the big money is in making the big games with fancy graphics. Because there just aren't that many people who actually care about games as opposed to people who just enjoy them.

    Need proof? Play counter strike. You make a lot more money selling some fancy looking piece of poop to those shitcockers than you would selling a balanced work of art to the 100 guys who actually care. Look at the MMOs where you have people addicted to collecting worthless digital items and customizing avatars that look cool, obviously they never played a MUD. And of course, the people who didnt like Wind Waker before ever even playing it based on it's looks. They do realize that at heart it is essentially the same game that Zelda 64 was and the new one is going to be? No, because they aren't real gamers.

    Those of us left who ARE real gamers have to stick together. Gotta make sure that quality games keep getting made for us to enjoy regardless whatever fancy graphics crap comes out. I have high hopes for Civilization 4 and the Revolution. Let's see if they can be fulfilled or not.

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  6. Unrealistic, should be... by Shazow · · Score: 5, Funny
    Imagine Doom3 without graphics and a Zork like interface:
    You are in a large room covered in blood. You can't see anything.

    > use flashlight
    You take out your flashlight which reveals a Revenant. The Revanent runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You can't shoot with a flashlight. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > use rocketlauncher
    You put away your flashlight and take out your rocket launcher. The Revanent runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revanent. You miss. The Revenant runs towards you.

    > shoot revenant
    You shoot a rocket at the Revanent. You miss. The Revenant runs towards you. You are hit from behind.

    > turn south
    You turn south. You see a Revanent. The Revanent hits you. You are hit from behind.

    > run west
    You bump into a Revanent. The Revanent hits you. You are hit from the left. You are hit from the right. You are hit from behind. You fall mortally wounded to the ground.

    > fuck
    You cannot use your reproductive organs while dead.
    Weeeee!

    - shazow
  7. Consider chess by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ever play chess with a really elaborate set? Intricately engraved figures with so much fine detail you could scream? Kinda difficult picking out the pieces, isn't it? I really prefer a nice, simple, classical set, where you can identify the piece at a glance.

    I think videogames are approaching the same limit. You aren't going to be paying attention to detail when you're actually playing the game, it's at best ignored and at worst a distraction. The best thing for developers to do would be to work at reducing distractions.

  8. Re:Put another way.... :) by analog_line · · Score: 4, Funny

    I agree. My girlfriend doesn't have the latest graphics, but her gameplay is quite good.