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Patriot Act to be Expanded

m4dm4n writes "It seems that the patriot act is being expanded rather than scaled back after a vote late Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence committee. The FBI has gained new powers to demand documents from companies without a judge's approval, as well as the ability to designate subpoenas as secret and punish disclosure of their existence with up to one year in prison."

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  1. Re:Anyone get the feeling... by torpor · · Score: 0, Troll

    The US has been a police state since the end of World War 2.

    You didn't really think all those soldiers were going to put away their toys and go home, did you?

    Americans, take on the Techno-Military-Industrial Cults which have your nation in their grips! Quick! Its not too late!

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  2. Re:Short said: by skeib · · Score: 1, Troll

    Insightful? wtf? I really hope parent was meant as a funny post... And whoever modded it insightful should be ashamed!

  3. Re:Anyone get the feeling... by orcus · · Score: 1, Troll

    Brainwashing (from dictionary.com):
    The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation.

    Sounds pretty close to what is happening to me. As the tobacco companies say "You get 'em young and you got 'em for life".


    Weird - I always thought that was the definition of organized religion....

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  4. Re:Home of the brave... by WoodieR · · Score: 1, Troll

    and you idiots were worried about the communists? It's quite obviously time for another revolution - to put your out of control, megalomaniac masters in their place and remind them that they SERVE the people, or leave. Either that or you will end up attacked within 10 years, by the entire world population in self protection. Let's see what you think about your United States after being conquered and split by a world community who recognizes that your masters and any shadow cabinets are an acute danger to freedom everywhere.

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  5. Re:Hurrah! by saleenS281 · · Score: 0, Troll

    As a child of two teachers, I GUARANFCUKINGTEE you they don't support the kind of trash Bush is spewing. You will find far and away that the VAST MAJORITY of the teaching population in this country are "liberals". Generally speaking consveratives are rich white americans, therefore they think the first place they should cut into is public school systems (why the hell should they care, they send their kids to private schools anyways).

    So PLEASE don't even attempt to say that the public school teaches support of such bullshit. The MEDIA is telling kids this shit, and they gobble it up. Any poli sci class I ever had in PUBLIC high school preached up and down about our freedom's and how we should never take them for granted.

  6. Re:Steps the administration needs to take by h4x0r-3l337 · · Score: 0, Troll
    There is no torture at Gitmo

    Riiight... And Saddam had stockpiles of WMD and was best buddies with Osama bin Laden, right?

  7. Re:Hurrah! by Elrac · · Score: 0, Troll
    You may have heard, earlier this year, that someone proposed a change to the Constitution to allow the Terminator to become President. Of course it never went anywhere, but keeping GWB in office is a far, far simpler thing.


    "I am a war president," he said. What more obvious ploy than to apply a "special wartime measure" to stay in power? It's easy enough to frighten the people into believing there's an emergency. If push comes to shove, some Special Forces unit could blow up a few buildings to "prove" that terrorism is still/again rampant in the country.
    Once everyone agrees that there is an emergency in progress, many "desparate measures" can be pushed through. Keeping GWB at the helm could be made to look like the only sane thing to do. Maybe "we're too endangered by terrorism at the moment to hold elections?"


    So, in a few simple steps:

    • Declare a state of national emergency, or bring one about if necessary;
    • Convince the public that presidential control must be prolonged until the crisis is met; and
    • Keep on prolonging the crisis until people have forgotten the Constitution.
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  8. Re:In Soviet America... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    To be fair, America has always stood for `might is right`, hence its foundation on the genocide of Native Americans, on slavery, colonialism and so on, so Bush's rule doesn't mark any kind of watershed in terms of direction. It's simply breathtaking both how shamelessly Bush is using the 9/11 atrocities to cover a switch from protectionism to imposing the same control America has exerted over Europe since the end of the second world war to the rest of the world.

    My biggest fear is that in 5 years time, no-one will be talking about 9/11 except perhaps to say `to think we made that much fuss about just 3000 deaths`.

  9. Re:It's all to fight terrorism .. by skasingularity · · Score: 0, Troll
    "Me must give up our freedoms to keep our freedoms. Hah, I'll take rampant terrorism over THEIR brand of freedom."

    Ok, so I'm not defending or condemning the Patriot Act here, but isn't that a little extreme?

    How giving up your freedom to LIVE (an effect of rampant terrorism) to keep the ability to, whatever this bill would prevent, any different?