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Kutaragi Thumbs Nose At Other Consoles

Ken Kutaragi thinks very highly of the PS3. So much so, that he is once again badmouthing his competitors in the press. From the article: "This time, Microsoft has stated clearly that it is going after PlayStation. However, they're going not after the PlayStation 3, but the PlayStation 2. They were looking at 2, and that's why [Xbox 360] became like that". And by "that", he probably means crappy. I'm just guessing.

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  1. No Sound/All Cell by N3Roaster · · Score: 1, Insightful
    why the PS3 doesn't contain a separate sound chip: "It's obvious... Because [the audio] is all calculated [through Cell]. Sound is not the about the number of voices, but is itself an object.
    So he's bragging that the PS3 won't use specialized hardware where it makes sense to use specialized hardware.

    Well, whatever. I'll probably buy one of PS3/360/Revolution, but not until games I'm interested in stop coming out for my PS2 and one of these is out and gets a lineup I'm interested in.
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    1. Re:No Sound/All Cell by Hast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's what the hype claims. Problem is, all of that means you need to get more data into and out off the CPU, and that means less bandwidth for other stuff.

      And I have yet to see a CPU that can handle sound processing better than a DSP. That's what they are for.

    2. Re:No Sound/All Cell by kerrle · · Score: 2, Insightful
      No, you don't understand how the cell works.

      Not all of its cores are full blown processors - many are just glorified vector units. That doesn't mean it'll perform poorly, but you should not expect the performance multiple you would from, say, a 5-cored Athlon 64 - and there's still a finite limit on its resources.

      The simple fact of the matter is that a good DSP handles sound very well, and wouldn't add much to the cost. They're certainly not the only way to go, but just because a system uses a cell processor doesn't mean that you won't ever need another, specialized processor in the system.

  2. News ? by Luis+Cypher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Summary : company slags rivals.

    The actual article is devoid of any real news.
    The article is flaimbait, ( it's written in that tone too) to stir up game console discussion before each is released.

  3. Oh really? by Kirsha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That guy goes on about how you can compare the PS3 to the XBOX 360 on specs, and how we should ahve seen the E3 presentation, but...didnt they had to do those with computer hardware cause the real hardware is still not finished?

    These people should really shut up and start badmouthing themselves once they actually have some real product to gloat about...

    1. Re:Oh really? by SetupWeasel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That would be pretty damned hard to do considering NVIDIA hasn't finished the PS3 GPU yet.

  4. Remember: He only needs to delay your decision by slot32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All he's trying to do is delay your decision so insted of 'must have xbox in september' you say 'I'm going to wait for the PS3 to come out too, and then decide which one to get'.

    If he can do that, he's done his job...

    And by what I've been hearing people say, he's suceeded. If there is a shadow of doubt come xbox's launch in your mind, he's done what he needs to do.

    1. Re:Remember: He only needs to delay your decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      MS said they will have 40 games titles for the launch. I'm still waiting, I learned my lesson when I bought an XBOX with a shitty DVD drive. Nothing worse than 'Failed to load map' on Halo2 or coversations stopping and freezing for a few minutes in Jade Empire.

  5. This guy is just asking for it.... by Jarlsberg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So in the interview, Kutaragi says:
    "Other companies may talk of game machines, but we've always referred to 'computer entertainment,' even in our press materials. It's entertainment and also a computer. That's what's important."
    Yes, because PS1 and PS2 are fabulous as computers.

    And this:

    "People probably won't be able to understand the difference between PS3 and Xbox 360 if the spec charts are just lined up," apparently.

    "However, at E3, a suitable number of people said that they were glad they came and saw rather than just looking at the specs. When the PS3 is actually released, this will spread and people will come to understand."

    But what did they get to see? I didn't go to E3, but from what I've read it seems Sony mostly showed pre-rendered footage.
    1. Re:This guy is just asking for it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They were playing on development hardware and in all likelihood a significant portion of the gameplay was scripted.

  6. So let me get this right by cassidyc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His entire sales pitch is to show off pre-rendered movies, on the basis that the real game might look nothing like this but might feature this is a rendered cut scene. And slag off the opposition rather than extolling the (as yet non-existant) qualities of your own (as yet non-existant) hardware.

    Christ last time I heard that line of arguments was in a school playground (before they allowed guns :)

    J Allard (and Nintendos equiv) has been much more mature, raising the profile of thier own machines. Selling their machines, not slagging off competitors

    CJC

  7. Pretentious much? by mattgreen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole next-gen console war is so overblown. Every company takes themselves so seriously and resorts to insulting each other like a group of jealous seventh grade girls fighting over boy band members. Somehow, I get the feeling that these consoles are not going to revolutionize the living room and provide a fully synergistic entertainment experience like they all claim to be doing. I guess the console market has always been a bit juvenile (recall the Genesis' "blast processing" claims). I guess since I am much older now, I see these squabbles as mere publicity stunts.

  8. It's the Dreamcast all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The Saturn did horribly in the US.
    The Xbox did horribly in Japan.
    The Saturn caused Sega to lose a lot of money.
    The Xbox caused Microsoft to lose a lot of money.
    Sega releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.
    Microsoft releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.

    What happens next?

    1. Re:It's the Dreamcast all over again by tourvil · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The Saturn did horribly in the US.
      The Xbox did horribly in Japan.
      The Saturn caused Sega to lose a lot of money.
      The Xbox caused Microsoft to lose a lot of money.
      Sega releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.
      Microsoft releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.

      What happens next?

      Microsoft uses its cash reserves to keep the console going in case of bad sales?

  9. Really trying hard to slam it... by thesandtiger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which, I understand, is kind of their job. But why can't they praise themselves - and provide actual evidence to justify that praise - instead?

    What it comes off like is they're running scared. It feels like they've got nothing but pre-rendered stuff and a past track-record of overpromising and underdelivering and now they keep on just saying shit like "ours is sooooooo much better. Reeeeeeealllly better. Soooooooo. Muuuuuuuuch. Beeeeeeeeeter!" and waving their hands around nonsense numbers and specs.

    Personally, this amount of hot air and handwaving with *zero* real data to back it up at this point is making me think there are some real problems with the PS3 that they're hoping they can hype over.

    Of course, everyone's hyping their stuff - but, in the case of the original XBox, I really feel that they lived up to what they promised and delivered a damn fine system - so (ironic, isn't it?) I guess I trust them a little more than Sony who lied their asses off, didn't live up to what they promised, even if they did deliver a nice console.

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  10. New Marketing by DrWho520 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wanna Be Thug 1 - Yo G, you here 'bout Kutaragi? Man, he called those sucka's out and their system!
    Wanna Be Thug 2 - Nah, man. Nah.
    WBT1 - Yo homes, for real!
    WBT2 - Word?
    WBT1 - He call a sucka out like dat, his system gotta be for sheezy.
    WBT1 - True.


    Pigs! Pigs, I say, slopping at the trough that is pop culture! I will buy the system with the gaming soul. The other do can do whatever they please over there.

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  11. It's nice to see some progress.... by Jerf · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's nice to see a bit of progress in the geek community, a little bit of maturity.

    When the PS/2 came out, I tried to explain why the hype was incredibly overblown. I got the equivalent of "troll".

    If I tried now to explain why the hype for the PS/3 is overblown, now I'd get "Redundant".

    Nobody admitted it at the time. (Haven't seen many admit it now, either...) But I think a lot of people basically got burned. (The PS/2 is nice in a lot of ways. It also sucks ass in some completely inexcusable ways. It's the console world's Pentium 4, designed for high numbers at the cost of real performance.) Looks like there's been some hard learning.

    Hopefully, this feeds back to the companies in question... many have said it, but I too am sick of seeing pre-rendered scenes that the PS/1 could have pumped out...

  12. Re:I Love This Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is actually rather poor flamebait; the poster is really just saying that Ken reminds him of a giggly N fanboi...the implications are much worse for Sony here than they are for Nintendo!

    Also, I don't remember hearing anyone ever refer to Mario Sunshine as a "revolutionary" title, but I suppose that is beyond the point.

    Curse Nintendo for adding awesome new features to old franchises so that they both keep their core audience, expand to a new audience, and maintain the high level of quality they are known for! Curse them!

    They should just join the rest of the pack and release a new Mario title every year, with only minor changes to the characters! Also, they should change the soundtrack from original compositions by greats like Koji Kondo to pop hits by bands like Fountains of Wayne and Good Charlotte. Indeed, that would improve the game ten-fold! They could even re-use the old level geometry and just put new textures on it.

    It's about time Nintendo gave up their archaic method of creating entirely new games for each sequel, rather than simply rehashing existing resources and assets and trying to pass that off as a new $50 game that we need to buy.