Slashdot Mirror


Kutaragi Thumbs Nose At Other Consoles

Ken Kutaragi thinks very highly of the PS3. So much so, that he is once again badmouthing his competitors in the press. From the article: "This time, Microsoft has stated clearly that it is going after PlayStation. However, they're going not after the PlayStation 3, but the PlayStation 2. They were looking at 2, and that's why [Xbox 360] became like that". And by "that", he probably means crappy. I'm just guessing.

14 of 128 comments (clear)

  1. News ? by Luis+Cypher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Summary : company slags rivals.

    The actual article is devoid of any real news.
    The article is flaimbait, ( it's written in that tone too) to stir up game console discussion before each is released.

  2. Re:my reaction: by ZephyrXero · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but can the Revolution and Xbox360 cook my burgers to perfection like the PS3?

    --
    "A truly wise man realizes he knows nothing."
  3. Remember: He only needs to delay your decision by slot32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All he's trying to do is delay your decision so insted of 'must have xbox in september' you say 'I'm going to wait for the PS3 to come out too, and then decide which one to get'.

    If he can do that, he's done his job...

    And by what I've been hearing people say, he's suceeded. If there is a shadow of doubt come xbox's launch in your mind, he's done what he needs to do.

    1. Re:Remember: He only needs to delay your decision by KDR_11k · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think he wants to dreamcast* the X360. Make everyone believe the PS3 can do much more and is just around the corner, no matter what it really can do or when it really launches. If nobody buys the X360 at first it might look like it crashed and publishers might decide there's no profit to be gotten there. When the publishers are scared away that means less game releases (look at the Gamecube or PSP) and without games there'll be less users and no reason for the publishers to come back.

      *= oops, eighth deadly sin: Thou shalt not verb nouns.

      --
      Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
    2. Re:Remember: He only needs to delay your decision by obeythefist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Except Microsoft has (presumably) learned all their lessons from the original X-Box and from what I've seen they've managed to stable a large number of publishers for the 360, far more than they had last time. In fact they will most likely be neck-a-neck with Sony for this next round. Except by the time Sony launches, MS will probably be around to the next shopping season's worth of game titles, making Sony enter the market with possibly *fewer* titles than the 360.

      And I wouldn't imagine for a minute MS isn't going to be throwing a lot of weight at keeping those publishers in line - this battle is worth more to MS than the browser wars were!

      --
      I am government man, come from the government. The government has sent me. -- G.I.R.
  4. This guy is just asking for it.... by Jarlsberg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So in the interview, Kutaragi says:
    "Other companies may talk of game machines, but we've always referred to 'computer entertainment,' even in our press materials. It's entertainment and also a computer. That's what's important."
    Yes, because PS1 and PS2 are fabulous as computers.

    And this:

    "People probably won't be able to understand the difference between PS3 and Xbox 360 if the spec charts are just lined up," apparently.

    "However, at E3, a suitable number of people said that they were glad they came and saw rather than just looking at the specs. When the PS3 is actually released, this will spread and people will come to understand."

    But what did they get to see? I didn't go to E3, but from what I've read it seems Sony mostly showed pre-rendered footage.
  5. I Love This Man by Babbster · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ken Kutaragi is a friggin' genius. I don't know if all his smack talk will have any positive effect on PS3 sales or negative effect on Xbox 360 sales, but he is just entertaining as hell. He's a lot more fun than J. Allard who too often seems intent on making the Xbox (and now the 360) look like it was designed for the entertainment of rock stars, actors and professional sports players. Allard bores me to tears.

    Ken comes off as a guy who cares about winning and is ready to say anything to help make that happen. What's not to like about that? Speaking for myself, an American, I think winning is more fun than just about anything not required for continuation of the human race.

    I'm an Xbox fan. I have all three consoles, but I feed more games to my Xbox than the other two consoles combined. I like the games that come out, I like the graphics and I like (love) the sounds (I bought my first DVD player way back when to get Dolby Digital; letterboxed movies were a secondary consideration). I went so far as to wait for its Xbox release before playing the latest GTA game - I've had to fight off some withdrawal-type symptoms, but I made it.

    All the above being true, I want to hear MORE Xbox 360 slams from Mr. Kutaragi. He makes me smile...and not in an ironic, "oh look at the silly monkey" way. No, he entertains me the same way one of the aforementioned Xbox-playing sports stars does when he goes crazy and guarantees a win or puts down an opposing team. It's just plain fun.

    Even his incoherent ramblings about the PS3 and Cell are a blast. I mean, come on: "However, if you look closely, the difference between things that are being calculated and things that are simply being changed and moved is clear." I, for one, will be less than a foot from my TV screen when I eventually hook up a PS3 just to see the amazing differences between motion capture and the magical Cell real-time calculations. I LOVE IT!

    Ken, you're out of your mind and I can't get enough. Go, man, go!

    PS- I get similar tingles when one of the Nintendo nuts goes on and on about their magical gameplay. You know, because giving Mario a water cannon revolutionized (apologies) gaming. :)

    1. Re:I Love This Man by PaSTE · · Score: 3, Funny
      PS- I get similar tingles when one of the Nintendo nuts goes on and on about their magical gameplay. You know, because giving Mario a water cannon revolutionized (apologies) gaming. :)

      I can't wait to see what will happen to these kinds of posts in 30 years, when game console designers end up using every word in the English language, so everything becomes a pun.

      "I really liked (sorry) the Nintento XZ3000 and their ombudsman (not a plug for Microsoft) because (no pun intended) they tend (no, I don't work for Sony) to focus (apologies to Apple) on developing the software (again, not a M€ plug) and not (Phantom rulez!) overhyping (no, not the 2021 Sega attempt to re-enter the market) the hardware (TM Sears)."

      --
      /*No comment*/ #No comment //No comment ;No comment 'No comment REM No comment !No
  6. Re:Oh really? by noodler · · Score: 5, Informative

    afaik the PS3 hardware is (almost) mass-production ready.
    Epic stated at the sony E3 event that they have had the actual hardware for a a few months or so and they managed to port UnrealTournament2007 to it.

    then i saw an article in the Inquirer :
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23807

    which basically states the same.

  7. So let me get this right by cassidyc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His entire sales pitch is to show off pre-rendered movies, on the basis that the real game might look nothing like this but might feature this is a rendered cut scene. And slag off the opposition rather than extolling the (as yet non-existant) qualities of your own (as yet non-existant) hardware.

    Christ last time I heard that line of arguments was in a school playground (before they allowed guns :)

    J Allard (and Nintendos equiv) has been much more mature, raising the profile of thier own machines. Selling their machines, not slagging off competitors

    CJC

  8. Re:It's the Dreamcast all over again by tourvil · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Saturn did horribly in the US.
    The Xbox did horribly in Japan.
    The Saturn caused Sega to lose a lot of money.
    The Xbox caused Microsoft to lose a lot of money.
    Sega releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.
    Microsoft releases their nextgen console only four years after their previous console.

    What happens next?

    Microsoft uses its cash reserves to keep the console going in case of bad sales?

  9. Fanboy! by XXIstCenturyBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ken Kutaragi is just a Sony fanboy and therefore must be ignored like any console specific fanboy on any internet forum.

  10. Re:Oh really? by SetupWeasel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would be pretty damned hard to do considering NVIDIA hasn't finished the PS3 GPU yet.

  11. Re:No Sound/All Cell by Hast · · Score: 4, Informative

    There has already been comments on Cell-Core vs Cell-SPE so I'll be brief.

    The problem (and this is a very real problem for all processors, not just Cell or consoles) is getting data into and out of the processor in a timely fasion. If a processor (core/SPE/whatever) doesn't have input data or if it's unable to send data out of the chip then it stalls. If it stalls then that processor part can't get any work done until this block is resolved. This is why it's important to manage input and output of the CPU in order to keep the processor working as much as possible.

    Besides this little misunderstanding you can't have "2 running the data", a processor (of any kind) doesn't work that way. The processor itself loads data from memory as part of the operations it executes. So each of them "runs their data" on their own just fine.

    And the Cell doesn't have 5 of anything, it has one core and 8 SPE (vector units). Finally if you have 3 actions (data, sound, graphics) and 5 cores to execute them on that gives you 243 different combinations. (And this is counting many duplicates as sound-sound-gfx is calculated separately from sound-gfx-sound.) In any case it's pretty far from an infinate amount of combinations.

    "Hannibal" over at ArsTechnica has some great no-nonsense articles (1 and 2) on both the Cell and the X360. I recommend that you read them as he tends to dispell the hype and misunderstandings quite well.