Hybrid Fixed and Mobile Telephony
Iorek writes "Both Ericsson and BT have launched telephony products that erode the barriers between mobile phones and landlines. Ericsson's One Phone is a PBX system that can treat any mobile phone as an extension of the corporate phone network, while the BT Fusion handset behaves like a conventional fixed line cordless phone when it's near its base station (Bluetooth connection), and connects to the Vodafone network once it's out of range."
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the BT Fusion handset behaves like a conventional fixed line cordless phone when it's near its base station [...], and connects to the [cellular] network once it's out of range
So? Panasonic made phones like that as early as 1998.
of this have to be amazing. What with the azzhole crackers now using cell phones to deliver their wares and crack corporations, this has got to have the security guys fuming (or planning on buying a new car with the consulting money).
I like the idea but it would been better to use 802.11 instead of bluetooth for a little more range around the house....
When do we get it in US?
I wont mind working offsite for a while...
My phone company has a service that allows you to have three different phone numbers ring when someone calls. Whoever picks up the phone first has the call. I could seriously use this at work, but, of course, they won't offer it to businesses since they think (perhaps rightfully so) that the business could get by with fewer lines. I think that these Ericsson and BT phones would be useful.
What we really need is a mobile phone that acts like a corded phone whenever it is out of range of a cell.
When I had my second job at OfficeMax in 1995, we sold a 900Mhz wireless phone that turned into a cell phone once you got a certain distance away. I think it cost around $400. The only thing different between this and the "new" one is the bluetooth...
Short range = faster switch-over to expensive DSM connection. If they used WiFi they'd have a lot more calls made over the VoIP than over GSM, and lower revenue
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I remember the day when my old Missus had 'er first baby. I didn't go around dialling fancy numbers in any fancy telephone. Just walked up the hill, hollered for the midwife and walked back up home. No sirre, no fancy "Hybrid Telephony" for us back then, and we loved it.
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When BT started their VOIP service a few months back, they charged the same price as their POTS calls!
They have since reduced them but not by much.
/. needs to start getting the news a little faster. For example, the earthquake warning that came a full 14 hours after the earthquake. This story was run on Gizmodo yesterday. http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/index.ph p#bt-mixes-home-with-mobile-108065
Now if only I could use Skype while away from my computer (and away from my WiFi network's range).
Already, when I store a phone number for a different area code, I do not store it with the '1' in front so as not to make a long distance call. Conveniently when I select that number from my address book and dial it the phone company inserts a '1' in front of the number and dials it long distance as I'm out of my dialing area. This is exactly the kind of slimeball tactic phone companies are famous for.
I wonder if the phones will have a preference to revert to (assuredly more expensive) cell network if the base station signal drops below a set tolerance. I wonder if the phone companies will want suggest that that tolerance factoer will be...?
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Quite apart from the Motorola V560 which is beginning to look like a bit of a relic, the system itself has lots of rough edges, is extremely restrictive and looks like a product in search of a market, not the other way around.
Here's a different take on the BT Fusion / Motorola V560 / Bluephone thing. Not pretty.
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Most cell phone companies have pretty good coverage. But, the #1 place I hear people complain about not having coverage is their home. Coverage is great on highways, in downtown areas, but once you enter a suburban residential area, coverage becomes questionable.
Now, in most homes there is already a landline phone or at least broadband connection. So, why not make use of this pre-existing network which is in just the spot that cell phones are unreliable?
I've felt for a long time that cell phone should come with some sort of base station (like what comes with cordless phones), which you could connect to while in your house. This would be establishing the "last mile" of near-full cell phone coverage.
Most negative comments here seem to see this as providing an alternative way to make a call on your cell phone, but I don't think that's the point. The point, to me, is to provide a way to make call in the one place that most people probably want to, but don't have coverage.
Bravo.
If you hit the "End" button, does it use a regenerative hangup process?
Can I use the jaws of life to cut through the phone without killing myself in the process, in an emergency?
How many minutes to the gallon does it get?
is that incoming calls are charged at the call-to-a-mobile rate even if the recipient is at home.
Ericsson's One Phone is a PBX system that can treat any mobile phone as an extension...
Anyone with 1/2 a clue has been able to make a PBX do this for as long as there have been PBX's and cell phones. What's the news here?
It also means that you are sucking up the minutes for every call. How is this any sort of cost saver?
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GTE Mobilnet sold me a phone that was supposed to do this 9 years ago (transparently switch between wireless if near base station or cell if not). Of course, they never actually implemented the service, so I guess it was all just a ploy to get their subscriber count up.
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Orange was doing this (mobile & landline hybrids) in Australia years ago, that is until they stopped offering the service (I believe) because it had such little demand.
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NTT had this out for a while, though it's not really selling very well:
http://www.docomo.biz/html/product/cordless/n900i
The real problem with these is their cost, and the fact that normal people can't purchase them (You have to buy these as a business "solution" wiht prices starting at $2000+).
When in the office, these use company internal wifi network and a supposedly "standard" SIP implementation for VOIP. When outside, they use DoCoMo's new and crappy "FOMA" 3G technology.
I've been trying to get my office to get me some demo units of them, but with prices like these, its unlikely.
The third network option I'd like to see is peer to peer calling. If you're within range of the other party the two handsets should be able to connect directly. Again, that's possible now with mobile/walkie-talkie hybrids (think Motorola has these) but again there's no handoff when you walk in and out of range.
Apart from obvious savings, P2P calling could introduce some great options like proximity alerts and indication of signal direction when your contacts are nearby. It'd by great for finding friends in a crowd.
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As far as I have heared, Asterisk can do something like that.h
http://www.crazygreek.co.uk/content/chan_bluetoot
has more info.
I have a Genion phone, and it's not a hybrid, it's a standard mobile phone. Genion is billing model that lets you make your calls cheaper if you are located inside a specific area, called the "homezone", around 500m in diameter, that you specify when you buy the phone. The homezone prices are advertised as "as low as landline prices", but that's only true if you suck at getting a good deal on landline phone service.
That's not exactly new. This kind of feature is offered by some telecoms. For example, Brasil Telecom.
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