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Sony Produces Fewer Units, Not Sorry About Delays

Sony has ordered its suppliers to produce fewer units of the PSP handheld, 1up reports. From the article: "While meeting with suppliers, Sony reportedly plans to manufacture only 12 million units, reports Next Generation from Japan's Nikkei BP. Previously, suppliers had expected orders in excess of 18 million units for the portable hardware. No reasons were cited in the original article, and representatives for Sony Computer Entertainment America were not available for comment." Meanwhile, GameIndustry.biz is reporting that the company is unrepentant about the PSP's launch delay and the consistent PS2 shortages. From the article: "...despite the constant criticism of the company, which will launch PSP in Europe in September nine months after the Japanese launch, in fact, 'we like this - we don't want to go first.'"

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  1. No win situation by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "He argued that the delay to launching the hardware in Europe meant that more of the bugs and issues could be ironed out, thus heavily reducing the company's return rate."

    Wouldn't that be a tacit admission that the hardware wasn't really ready at the time of the first launch?

    Still can't figure out why they'd want to produce less units though, unless they figure it would be better to undershoot and have a higher demand for a smaller number of units than to overshoot and glut the market, but if true that also wouldn't sound too good once you decyphered the market-speak.

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    1. Re:No win situation by still_sick · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be a tacit admission that the hardware wasn't really ready at the time of the first launch?

      Unless you really need the latest gadget RIGHT NOW - it's a good idea to wait a few generations before buying it.

      Recall the drive issues with first-generation PS2s and XBoxes. Recall the problem with the headphone jack in the first generation iPod.

      A shortage of the first generation PS3s isn't necessarily a bad thing. No matter how much testing the company does, it's nothing compared to the early adopter h4rdc0r3 g4m3rs bangin' on the console for a few months.

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    2. Re:No win situation by dtfarmer · · Score: 1
      Still can't figure out why they'd want to produce less units though, unless they figure it would be better to undershoot and have a higher demand for a smaller number of units than to overshoot and glut the market, but if true that also wouldn't sound too good once you decyphered the market-speak.

      The market-speak is seems pretty clear to me:
      "Companies go bankrupt with too much stock - even companies like Sony," he commented, "but never with too little. We will continue to be cautious... But we will do whatever we can [for retailers]. It costs UKP 8 to airfreight a PS2 to Europe - we airfreighted three million of them in last year, and we'll do that again if we have to."
    3. Re:No win situation by ineedbettername · · Score: 1

      "He argued that the delay to launching the hardware in Europe meant that more of the bugs and issues could be ironed out, thus heavily reducing the company's return rate." Wouldn't that be a tacit admission that the hardware wasn't really ready at the time of the first launch?"
      Agreed. Although, the PSPs did have quite a few bugs at launch. Like my brother's PSP would convert AVI movies to MP4 files. We're not sure why it happened, but it effectively reduced the entertainment value of the PSP by 1/4. Any advice from /. posters as to why this happens? I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to handhelds.

    4. Re:No win situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you really need the latest gadget RIGHT NOW - it's a good idea to wait a few generations before buying it.

      And if you waited to pick up a PSP, you missed your chance to get one with the 1.50 firmware, which can now run homebrew.

      http://www.psp-hacks.com/2005/06/22/kxploit-direct -loader-v150-released/

  2. Sony - Arrogance Inc. by Japong · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sony Computer Entertainment, even with the translation gaffes and communication errors, seems to be one of the cockiest and unapologetic companies in the gaming business. The PSP alone has already generated a myriad of problems, all of which are dealt with from indiffference to outright hostility towards their customers:

    • Dead Pixels - Initial response: These are natural, and if you have them after dropping $250 on your PSP, well too fucking bad. Live with it.
    • Broken "Square/Circle/X/Triangle" buttons on the pad: It's the consumer's fault for buying our system. In fact, we designed it this way on purpose. So there.
    • Universal Media Disc: It's Universal and Propietary at the same time! So you can use them and buy them from any company you want, as long as that company is Sony and you only use them on the PSP.

    Yes, the PSP is beautiful. Yes, it's sleek and sexy. But honestly, I swear Sony made it for themselves, with customer satisfaction as a distant afterthought.

    1. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      No no no. Having a need to blow into Nintendo 8bit systems to play any games, that's a flaw. These other problems are minor defects that can be fixed with a next generation PSP 2.0 or something. Of course that's assuming this generation's PSP actually outlast gameboy.

    2. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by Ondo · · Score: 1

      No no no. Having a need to blow into Nintendo 8bit systems to play any games, that's a flaw. These other problems are minor defects that can be fixed with a next generation PSP 2.0 or something.

      The need to blow on NES games to get them to play was fixed with the top loading NES.

    3. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by macshit · · Score: 1

      Sony Computer Entertainment, even with the translation gaffes and communication errors, seems to be one of the cockiest and unapologetic companies in the gaming business

      This largely seems to stem from the personality of its head, Kutaragi.

      He's widely reviled within Sony itself (even the SCE employees I know seem to regard him with a sort of air of amused disbelief). However a cocky attitude does seem to have been a part of SCE's success, and people don't really want to mess with that...

      [Sony the larger company is also a bit arrogant, but it's a very different sort of arrogance, more the cold superiority of an engineer than the screaming ad-man bluster of SCE.]

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    4. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      ... except that wasn't a launch issue, it was an issue that cropped long after the purchase, an issue of wear. And really, if you were a little more delicate than the average 8 year-old kid, you wouldn't have that problem to begin with.

      Besides, new connectors are easy to come by on eBay. You can't say that about PSP shells.

    5. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by RickPartin · · Score: 1

      I bought a new connector for my NES and still have the same problems. :(

    6. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I swear Sony made it for themselves, with customer satisfaction as a distant afterthought.

      I'm a customer. I'm very satisfied. I guess you mean, "some customer satisfaction" then.

    7. Re:Sony - Arrogance Inc. by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Universal Media Disc: It's Universal and Propietary at the same time! So you can use them and buy them from any company you want, as long as that company is Sony and you only use them on the PSP.

      I'm still trying to figure out what the business plan around UMD movies is. I've seen a commercial twice now advertising "Hitch... on DVD and PSP!" DVD is bad enough!

      A portable system that could play DVDs, now that'd be great. But if you have to buy separate, lower-capacity disks in order to watch movies on a small screen, essentially by yourself.... I can only imagine there's a basic disconnect between the consumer and manufacturer here, like the makers have no idea under what circumstances people watch movies.

      Other than porn, that is.

  3. Nothing new by hakr89 · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Nothing new by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

      Supply and demand . . . .

    2. Re:Nothing new by rohlfinator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference is that the PS2 had little or no competition, while Nintendo is expecting to sell 20 million DSs in the next year. It's a good strategy to create artificial demand, but only when you have no chance of driving consumers to your competitors.

  4. and never-ending "I want more" claims from users by higon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    * Dead pixel:
    I agree. Yeah I agree:D. F*ck it.

    * X Buttons:
    Sony has fixed this problem before US launch and you/I don't have the problem. You are believing a rumour which is about a year old. And you don't have anything to back your claim up now. I owns PSP and I can see its quality is no less than that of home console machines.

    * UMD:
    UMD has been somehow in successful position. I have no doubt with this. Compare it with DVD at its first year. DVD was protected tightly as well. I guess if it is fully opened and rewritable by anyone, UMD and PSP wouldn't be this successful. Seeing bubbling interest in piracy on internet recently, I don't have any opposition about it. For game developers, actors, movie directors, and Sony, it must be too dangerous to make it open.

    Everything has cons and pros, so.

  5. Shortages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see them everywhere, they're just trying to keep the price high through the winter, by reducing supplies.

  6. Re: Top-loading NES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which almost nobody has since it had only a short production run towards the end of the NES's lifespan.

    Fixing a major design decision like that of the cart-loading mechanism costs a hell of a lot more than just changing the quality of some of the parts, the latter of which is the main issue with the early PSPs.

  7. Sony's Strategy by HunterZ · · Score: 1

    They're probably just trying to keep the demand up until the holiday season so that they can get big Christmas sales.

    They're probably hoping that they can keep the price high enough for now that only the most interested people will buy PSPs. Then, word will get out on the street about how cool they are and everyone will get one for Christmas at an only marginally lower price, thereby making Sony look like a god of holiday toy/electronic/video game sales.

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    1. Re:Sony's Strategy by HunterZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They may also be releasing them with small revisions to each batch. On the other hand, my roommate just bought one with dirt in the screen and made the people at our local GameStop open all 6 units they had in-stock to find one without a defect (besides dead pixels, which none of them had, surprisingly).

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    2. Re:Sony's Strategy by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      The small revisions are mostly "bugfixes" in the firmware that prevent the user from running custom applications on their PSP.

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  8. PStwo fragility? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Recall the drive issues with first-generation PS2s and XBoxes.

    Recall the lid issues with current generation PS2 systems. I've read horror stories of the disc drive lid breaking off after a week.

  9. Sign of things to come ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Has anyone else noticed that Sony continues to loose market share in their electronics division to smaller companies that are producing a better product at a lower price?

    Honestly, Sony is their own worst enemy. A couple of years back the name Sony on any product meant that it was higher priced than its competition but the extra quality of the Sony product usually made up for the extra cost. Now it seems to me that every Sony product I have purchaced or even examined lately is a lower quality and yet still higher priced product. Now, with the less than stellar quality (manufacturing quality that is) of the Playstation, PS2 and now PSP are we to expect disc read errors and an in general lower quality product with the PS3?

  10. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    " UMD has been somehow in successful position. I have no doubt with this. Compare it with DVD at its first year. DVD was protected tightly as well. I guess if it is fully opened and rewritable by anyone, UMD and PSP wouldn't be this successful."

    It's 'universal' in the sense that it does more than simply play music or video. It plays games and presumably other types of media, too. It's 'universal' in the sense that the V in DVD means 'versatile'.

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  11. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The square button/mis-aligned sensor feature has never been fixed. All that was fixed was the problem where the button would get stuck. I consider that completely broken, and Sony had damn well fix those/

    The UMD is currently used by one device... One. I will not consider it a success until there are non Sony products using it. Some people would call Mini-Disc a success. They would be wrong. Considering that a portable DVD player with a much larger screen is available at your local Sam's Club for $100 less than a PSP, I don't see the PSP pushing any UMD revolution.

  12. Maybe it's simple by fwitness · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All the comments I've read so far deal with some kind of theory about making supply short to increase demand.

    Maybe they just realized that they aren't selling a gazillion PSPs and decided to only produce enough for current and future demand? I know it sounds crazy, but maybe it's just a duck.

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    1. Re:Maybe it's simple by XaN-ASMoDi · · Score: 1

      people have come and gone in the hand heald market, maybe sony is edging on the side of caution... ...but market saturation is never a good thing either

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  13. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * X Buttons:
    Sony has fixed this problem before US launch and you/I don't have the problem. You are believing a rumour which is about a year old. And you don't have anything to back your claim up now. I owns PSP and I can see its quality is no less than that of home console machines.


    Uh...it would almost be hard for Sony to build a handheld that was put together worse than a PS2.

    I'll take two dead pixels over 'disc read error' any day of the week.

  14. Heh by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "A couple of years back the name Sony on any product meant that it was higher priced than its competition but the extra quality of the Sony product usually made up for the extra cost."

    Let me tell you what Sony meant a couple of years back.

    For example if you bought a TFT. Everyone else quoted TR+TF as latency (time to rise + time to fall). Sony was the only company left which quoted only either TR or TF. So your l33t 25ms TFT with a Sony logo would typically have _higher_ latency than a 40ms from Iiyama, LG or Samsung. (Which also cost less than half the price.)

    For example if you bought a Sony "MP3" player: it was the only "MP3 player" which couldn't in fact play MP3. Sony actually stuck to their own crappy codec, which is arguably the worst at a given bit rate, and capped to some 64 kbit/sec anyway. So you'd rip your MP3 at, say, 192 kbit/s, and get a little audio loss. Then you'd upload it to your l33t Sony MP3 player, and it would get uncompressed and recompressed to Sony's codec, at a whole 64kbit/sec. (Actually lower on some models.) And get a LOT of audio quality loss extra.

    And so on. Sony never was that big a name for quality, it was just a name for big marketting and high prices. All you got for that extra money was the name "Sony" and quite often _less_ quality than an equivalent product. (E.g., again, see how Sony's "25ms" wasn't quite the same "25ms" anyone else used, or that the ISO standard defined.)

    Don't get me wrong, I still did like their Playstation and PS2, because of the massive developper support they had. But if we're talking Sony's own part in it, again, at launch they were shamelessly mis-represented as being far more capable than they realy were. Typical Sony marketting running amok, really.

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    1. Re:Heh by Swanktastic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let me tell you what Sony meant a couple of years back.

      Let's try to go back a bit further than MP3 players and TFTs. After all, they're more an example of the company's current state of crappiness than anything else. You're only going back, say 3-5 years?

      Through the 70's, 80's and 90's Sony was a great brand known for innovation and quality. We're talking the guys who launched the portable television when market research and wisdom of the time stated there was no market for it. The problem happenened in around 1990 when the company acquired CBS movies and Columbia pictures and began focusing on entertainment. The electronics business has been going downhill ever since.

      I'm not a big fan of Sony anymore... I've gotten burned a couple times recently, but it's really not fair to say that Sony was NEVER known for quality.

  15. Or, you know, maybe... by Rallion · · Score: 1

    Maybe they're just losing money like crazy.

    I seriously doubt they're profiting on these little machines. Not that that's new for them, of course.

    But what IS new to Sony is not having a massive game library. How do you make up losses on system sales when you hardly have any games worth the effort it takes to lift the UMD?

    Anyway, arrogant, arrogant, etc., their lies killed Sega, etc.

    1. Re:Or, you know, maybe... by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 1

      Sony is gambling and losing right now. The UMD is expensive and isn't taking off, there are barely any decent games (that aren't lite versions or sequels to PS2 titles), and the memory stick is darn near useless in it (without hacks or software to get movies on one). What is there worth my money again about the PSP? Hrmm, I see nothing. (same as the DS, lame, no quality titles, just a tad cheaper but what does that matter)

      The PS3 is placing it all on Blu-ray which other manufacturers are dumping faster than a fat chick around your friends... If blu-ray loses the PS3 loses and is utterly useless. They are already expensive, and if not adopted they become way more expensive.

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    2. Re:Or, you know, maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Things are at least looking a bit up for the DS. The new Kirby game just came out and there's more good stuff coming down the pipeline.

    3. Re:Or, you know, maybe... by PeelBoy · · Score: 1

      Also the DS is not a bad quality product. It's actually GREAT quality, sure it might not have the most bad ass screen ever like the PSP but that doesn't mean it's not good quality.

      My DS has seen about twice the play time as my roommates PSP which doesn't really even get used at all anymore (after we all got over how cool the screen was, there was nothing..)

      BTW Kirby Canvas Curse is a GREAT game and Bomberman looks pretty sweet too.

  16. Bloody Sony... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

    Releasing the PSP nine fucking months after Japan takes the biscuit. If I had the money I would've bought a US or Japanese PSP by now. (I may not have any money for the UK launch either unfortionatley...). When Nintnedo launches hardware in Europe faster than you[1], you should realise that you're being too bloody slow.

    Sometimes living in the UK really sucks...

    [1] But still months after everywhere else, although they do release games at about the same time as everywhere else now, instead of months (or in Animal Crossing's case, years) later. Sometimes we even get games first. But that's probably more down to the GameCube tanking in Europe, and imports taking sales for handheld games.

    I'm not sure if there's any point to this rant. :-)

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    1. Re:Bloody Sony... by iainl · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can get an import PSP now for about the same money as they will cost when they do come out over here.

      If you actually want one, of course. There's a grand total of about three decent games available.

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    2. Re:Bloody Sony... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "although they do release games at about the same time as everywhere else now"

      Tell that to WarioWare Twisted and Fire Emblem 2. The bastards are probably keeping them in reserve for the Euro PSP launch. Why are all the console makers such gits?

    3. Re:Bloody Sony... by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Wait a moment... you guys did get Doshin the Giant for Gamecube, did you not? That never made it to the U.S.

      Okay, so it's not exactly Zelda, but dammit, I wanted to play that.

    4. Re:Bloody Sony... by tepples · · Score: 1

      you can get an import PSP now

      UMD Video is region coded. Japan is Region 2 at 60 Hz; North America is Region 1 at 60 Hz; Europe is Region 2 at 50 Hz.

      If you actually want one, of course. There's a grand total of about three decent games available.

      Aren't they all available on other platforms in some form, including the PSP's flagship falling block game?

    5. Re:Bloody Sony... by iainl · · Score: 1

      Re: UMD video, yes it's Region encoded, but (a) the 50Hz/60Hz thing doesn't count here, as the PSP doesn't have a TV out, and so ignores the PAL/NTSC standards, and (b) why anyone would pay that much for a film that they can't watch on a TV, when it's not hugely difficult to convert normal DVDs to a file format that the PSP will accept on a memory stick bewilders me.

      Lumines is fun, but no more so than Mizuguchi's companion piece Meteos for the DS.

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  17. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by Babbster · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Amen. UMD movies are a bad joke. I can only imagine the thought process that people would go through in buying one...

    "Hmmm. Well. Here I am at the old game store and there's still no more PSP games out. On the other hand, there are some UMD movies here. Yeah. I think I'll spend my money on a movie with fewer features than a DVD with worse audio/visual quality. It's a good deal because the price is only a LITTLE higher than DVD and I can play the movies on my PSP...well, only my PSP...Come to think of it, I think I'll head over to Blockbuster and get some DVDs."

  18. Dodging the question by FooHentai · · Score: 1

    Obviously, the issue isn't really about whether we want the console early and broken or late and working, it's about what the difference is between the eastern/NA markets and the European one that justifies a different release date in Europe.

    A more mature platform with more games? Sure, but that still leaves the question of why you didn't extend this courtesy to the Eastern/NA markets, Sony?

    But there must be some logic behind this move, it's just that noone seems to have any idea what it is. What do Sony have to gain by releasing the console later?

  19. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by iainl · · Score: 1

    True, but on the bright side, they've got this incredibly shiny PSP they bought a while back just sitting there, because they've played the very few decent games available on it.

    Look! It's a small portable screen, and it's playing a movie! Isn't that amazing?

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  20. What about Gamecube? by Ailure · · Score: 2, Informative

    Honestly... I hadn't heard people having as much problems with their Gamecube. Even with their first generation ones.

    1. Re:What about Gamecube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo's quality assurance is very, very good. Their QA guys are a major part of the initial design process. Even their after-market customer support is the most professional and hassle-free in the console business. I can't rmember dealing with another mass-manufacturer of electronic goods that was this customer-friendly at all stages of production and support. That's why I've never hesitated to buy Nintendo hardware on launch.

      To expand on this:

      There have been 3 main GameCube versions in the U.S. They are all identically very reliable, and none of the changes made to any of the versions involved stability fixes, or firmware updates, or other functional enhancements. The second revision removed D4 video support, and the third removed an unused expansion port. That's it, two measures that helped Nintendo lower system costs to enable occasional software bundling.

      Contrast this with Sony. At least 8 of the 12 main PS2 versions were released in the U.S. They are all of variable stability, due to different laser units (some more resistant to Disc Read Errors on either CDs or DVDs than others), different firmware, different DVD playback software versions, different motherboard layouts, different connectivity options, different chassis styles, different form factors (fat vs. slim), different cooling fan configurations, etc. etc. etc. Combine that with different peripheral revisions (like the external vs. internal hard drives, and the old-style external network adapters, of which there are at least two types), and you'll see that Sony likes to create headaches for themselves while Nintendo doesn't.

      On the topic of handhelds, Nintendo designed the Nintendo DS to be very reliable and power-friendly. It has a two screens, one of which is a touch screen. It also has a clamshell form factor. These things are rock-solid and require very little battery power. There is a standing zero-tolerance policy on dead pixels: If your DS has even a single dead pixel on purchase, it will be replaced for free. This is all on the heels of the GameBoy line, which has always been well designed and well supported. There are working B&W 1989 GameBoys out there in the world that have been dropped and abused that still just work as well as they did 16 years ago.

      Regarding the PSP, the damn thing has had 3 firmware versions already. The first models had serious problems that the Japanese gaming public were quick to ridicule (the least of which was the twist-eject bug). All models still feature the funky right side button layout underneath the faceplate. It is based on a moving-parts media design, and the media itself is housed in a very poorly-deesigned, poorly-protected caddy. The unit eats battery life like nobody's business and required Sony to develop their own hi-cap battery that is expensive to replace. The speakers are quiet and of poor quality, audibly straining at good volume. The remote control included with the "value" pack is flimsy. And that big, bright, beautiful screen is not supported by a zero-tolerance dead-pixel replacement policy like Nintendo's - returns are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, simply because the cost of replacing this part is so high.

      I'm not an Xbox user, but the stories from that corner of the market are innumerable, including DVD-ROM, hard drive, firmware, and heat issues. System modification seemingly throws a whole lot of kinks into the mix, especially regarding online play. And somehow country of manufacture seems to be an important issue for Xbox people too, for whatever reason.

      Summary: Nintendo just plain outdoes the competition in this thankless but vital part of the business. I know that I MUST have gotten a few details wrong, so I invite corrections, even from the rude bastards who are sure to reply. But I challenge anyone to support the idea that Nintendo isn't the best, bar none, in terms of customer support and reliable hardware design compared to their competition in the games industry. Say what you will about other things, but in terms of reliability, there's no contest. Nintendo wins every time.

  21. Sony confirms it, the PSP is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the death spiral - they'll prop it up for a year or so, but all y'all that bought one wasted your money on a device that will end up in the bargain bin.

  22. You can't choose your relatives by tepples · · Score: 1

    And really, if you were a little more delicate than the average 8 year-old kid, you wouldn't have that problem to begin with.

    I can't stop 8-year-old video-game-playing cousins from visiting my house. Now what do I do? Should I just hide the PSP and let people play the GBA alternative to Lumines?

  23. We're talking a COUPLE of years back by Moraelin · · Score: 1

    Point well taken, but the post I was replying to said that Sony was somehow synonimous with quality a couple of years back. Now I know that "a couple" is a very fuzzy interval, but I figure about 5 years back is a reasonable starting point to safely cover most definitions of "a couple of years".

    And yes, they're a prime example of the company's current state of crappiness, as you very aptly put it. That's what the last couple of years (well, ok, more like over a decade) of Sony has been all about: lots of marketting, inflated prices, and crap quality.

    Now if we're talking the 70's and 80's, ok, maybe Sony was better back then. But that's IMHO a lot more than "a couple of years ago".

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    1. Re:We're talking a COUPLE of years back by Swanktastic · · Score: 1

      Agreed on all points...

  24. Samsung by metamatic · · Score: 1

    Samsung is the Sony of the 21st Century.

    They now make the quality, well-designed products that Sony used to make until the mid-90s.

    (I just wish they'd make Bluetooth phones.)

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  25. It can't be about increasing demand by metamatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Sony actually wanted to increase demand, they'd have display units like Nintendo do. I'm sure as hell not going to buy a PSP until I've seen one, and to date I haven't seen one--just boxes locked away in cabinets.

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  26. Re:and never-ending "I want more" claims from user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    * X Buttons:
    Sony has fixed this problem before US launch and you/I don't have the problem. You are believing a rumour which is about a year old. And you don't have anything to back your claim up now. I owns PSP and I can see its quality is no less than that of home console machines.


    It wasn't a rumor, it really happened. It wasn't a year ago, more like a few months ago. I will gladly back up his claim for you if you really want.
  27. PSP region coding distinguishes Europe from Japan by tepples · · Score: 1

    yes it's Region encoded, but (a) the 50Hz/60Hz thing doesn't count here, as the PSP doesn't have a TV out, and so ignores the PAL/NTSC standards

    So? This forum message from Lik-Sang strongly implies that come September, European UMD Video titles will not play in Japanese PSP units. It's to be expected, as one of Sony's other PS Family products enforces TV-system lockout even if it doesn't have to. If I'm playing an all-region PAL disc on a PS2 NTSC U/C system (if it matters, it's Wobbl and Bob vol. 1), it still says "TV system doesn't match" instead of outputting a 50 Hz signal or converting the video. On the other hand, my Apex AD-1200 dedicated DVD player (purchased for $60 roughly 2.5 years ago at a Wal-Mart store in Terre Haute, Indiana, USA) can send the PAL 50 Hz/576i signal through or even convert it to NTSC 60 Hz/480i.

  28. Re:PSP region coding distinguishes Europe from Jap by iainl · · Score: 1

    There's a really dull reason for that. The NTSC PS2's DVD driver doesn't have a large enough framebuffer to display a PAL image, because Sony are fuckwits. The PAL machine will play NTSC discs just fine.

    I don't doubt that UK UMDs won't play on a Japanese machine, but since I already import all my DVDs from the US I can't say it particularly bothers me. My main point is that UMD films are a dumb idea generally.

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