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Windows Longhorn and Internet Explorer 7

An anonymous reader writes "At Gnomedex this year, Microsoft is excited about the new RSS integration into Windows Longhorn and Internet Explorer 7. Screenshots of Internet Explorer 7 reveal how Microsoft has added a search tool to the top right of the browsing window similar to the one found in Safari/Firefox. Also, Microsoft revealed that RSS will be integrated into the heart of Longhorn."

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  1. Looks like FireFox by ryg0r · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe its just me. But it looks like FireFox with some Longhorn UI added. :P

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    1. Re:Looks like FireFox by pdbaby · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yay Microsoft! King of innovation. They have the menu bar below the tablist. Truely innovation I'm sure people will pay for (in more ways than one).

      Any word on how many bugs they'll have introduced, their png and css standards compliance support?

      Good to see that RSS is integrated into the OS. That's something every kernel lacks these days ;-)

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    2. Re:Looks like FireFox by XNormal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They have the menu bar below the tablist.

      It's not just below - it means that the menu bar is part of the tab and can change when you switch tabs. It's actually a pretty clever design. I think they will use it for plugins and web pages that add items to the menus (PDF, Office, etc.)

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    3. Re:Looks like FireFox by remahl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Menus that change isn't good design.

  2. What about WEB DEVELOPERS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a good move by MSFT, but their lack of respect for web developers is ridiculous.

    Markus Mielke, quite possibly the most braindead member of humanity ever to use a computer, seems to think that separating content from presentation is wrong. See here for details. Even worse, the article he links says the reason is that CSS3 is not ready. This is despite the fact that the IE team won't even support CSS 2.1 fully in IE7! Yes, they might have fixed Peekaboo and Guillotine, but how about :hover for all elements? Or any semblance of support for floating elements? And they simply seem incapable of giving a straight answer!

    Dave Massy, senior program manager and all round idiot, in comments to this article, says that support for MathML and SVG should be left to 'experts', never answering the very pertinent query about why Microsoft isn't an expert in web technologies.

    Why not go over to the IEBlog and let them have a piece of your mind?

    1. Re:What about WEB DEVELOPERS? by MrDomino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're assuming, in calling these people idiots, that what they're doing is unintentional.

      If web coding were easily doable by hand with a text editor, would they get much in the way of sales for FrontPage? If web applications were ubiquitous thanks to a fully functional browser, do you think people would continue to fork over such obscene amounts of cash for MS Office?

      Is this crazy? Over-the-top? Probably. But for a company that has so many brilliant researchers among its ranks, isn't it odd that their web browser is so shoddy, yet they still continue to pour money and development time into it rather than let someone else take over?

  3. What's better than screen shots? by HyperChicken · · Score: 5, Informative
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  4. I'm Shocked... Get Me The Booze... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is adding technology into Longhorn? For a moment, I thought it was another announcement of yet another technology being pulled from the house of cards called Longhorn. The next thing that they will be announcing is a Mactel version.

    1. Re:I'm Shocked... Get Me The Booze... by JudgeFurious · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only reason they're adding this to Longhorn is that the PURE EVIL that's also fully integrated into the OS turned out to be smaller than expected. It seems obvious now but at the time nobody at Microsoft knew that pure evil is concentrated and takes up less space than the "mostly evil" they'd been using. The end result being that there was room for this.

      Otherwise they'd have left it out.

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  5. integrated into the heart by Frank+Grimes · · Score: 5, Funny

    "RSS will be integrated into the heart of Longhorn." Oh my god! Someone get on the phone to Linus Torvalds and tell him to integrate RSS into the Linux kernel as fast as possible!

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  6. Re:Say "NO" to Bloatware by pdbaby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But that's not in microsoft's best interests. They're a company, after all. They're in a perfect position: they can make their operating system require a faster processor and more memory. Do you think Intel, AMD and the various memory makers aren't "very grateful" of the extra business they get from the dizzyingly high requirements of Windows nowadays?

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  7. Re:Say no to Windows by RoadkillBunny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why though? IE7 looks exactly like Firefox.

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  8. What's sad about this is.... by WMD_88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When IE 7 comes out and all the Joe Average people start using it (via auto updating, or the new computer they bought, or whatever), they're gonna see the finally-added features and think, "Wow, look at these new things Microsoft created! They're amazing!" because they've never used anything but IE. Microsoft thus gains mindshare for nothing.

  9. Re:Say "NO" to Bloatware by Anti_Climax · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, they'll probably never give it to you, but you can definitely have it.

    http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html allows you to pull unwanted components from your windows install cd's, including media player, messenger and internet explorer. If you're so inclined I highly recommend making your own personalized install.

    It also comes in particularly handy when you want to keep people from using IE after their machine gets hosed by malware.

    As an aside, I find it much easier to just write the new install files into my CD image rather than burn a new one from folders on the disk and as a bonus the CD is typically smaller that way as well.

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  11. Re:Say "NO" to Bloatware by quarkscat · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Has anyone suggested that Microsoft create 2 parallel operating systems: slimware version and bloatware version?"

    Well, yes actually. Microsoft now offers the following "flavors" of Windows:

    (1) Windows XP Home
    (2) Windows XP Pro
    (3) Windows XP Embedded
    (4) Windows XP "Lite"
    (5) Windows XP "Thin"
    (6) Windows XP Home Theatre Edition
    (7) Windows XP 64-bit Edition
    (8) Windows XP N
    (9) Windows CE

    Pray tell, just which other version of Windows were you actually looking for, that MSFT doesn't already offer (except "Windows XP Secure")?
    There are already more versions than you can shake a proverbial stick at, and all with varying levels of bloatware and also vulnerabilities. Pick your poison, and prepare to be "owned".

  12. Microsoft's motto should be... by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..."The technologies of today --- TOMORROW!"

  13. Re:Is it too much to ask... by omry_y · · Score: 5, Funny

    why, its very useful to have RSS in the heart of the system.
    imagine the possiblities:

    * RSS system log:
    whenever a line is added to the log, you will be able to see it in your IE 7 Browser!

    * RSS memory monitor:
    you will have an RSS feed of your memory status in the last 24 hours! you will be able to tell how much memory your computer used, all from your IE 7 Browser!

    * RSS file system:
    Saving files is too boring?
    now you can save them as RSS entries, and watch them from your IE 7 Browser!

    * RSS buttons, checkboxes and tabs:
    instead of the silly outdated over-rated gui widgets we have today, we will have RSS widgets, which will allow you to know which buttons of an application was pressed, when, and why - all from your IE 7 Browser!

    now, tell me you are not excited!
    Microsoft, inovates the future

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