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Amazon's 1,082-volume Classics Collection: $7,989

Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "Who would buy 828 feet worth of books, for nearly $8,000, that would take 20 years to read at the rate of one title per week? And how much does it cost to ship? The Real Time columnists at the Wall Street Journal Online ponder these and other deep questions raised by Amazon's The Penguin Classics Library Complete Collection, whose sheer jaw-dropping enormity reminds them of e-tailers' wacky offers during the dot-com boom. 'We think the collection is a perfect fit for more than a few software engineers we've known -- smart, self-directed people who are eternally curious, yet abhor wasting time intellectually and can't hide their impatience with the fuzziness of liberal arts,' Jason Fry and Tim Hanrahan write. 'For them, here's a pre-selected, pretty comprehensive list of Western classics, assembled for purchase with a single mouse-click -- and available in a form that eschews frills for portability and ease of use. Think of it as Humanities In a Box. OK, a Very Big Box.'"

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  1. E-book by billieja2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ill wait for someone to rip it to an ebook i think.

    1. Re:E-book by cuzality · · Score: 5, Informative


      In the meantime, check the item out on Amazon here.

      Wait, it says "Amazon.com Exclusive!!!" You mean I can't pick one up at my local Barnes&Noble?

    2. Re:E-book by wynterx · · Score: 5, Informative

      While waiting, how about having a look at Project Gutenberg, I'm sure you'll find most of them there.

      See also: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154018&cid=129 19344

    3. Re:E-book by bessel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ooops... I just bought it by accident using Amazon's 1-click.

  2. Thank god... by ChrisF79 · · Score: 5, Funny

    for Amazon Prime!

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  3. Quick Script + Gutenberg? by Angry+Toad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how long it will take for someone to put together a quick script to take the book list and put the same collection out of Gutenberg?

    1. Re:Quick Script + Gutenberg? by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then go to Manybooks.net and pick a different format. They have the Gutenberg collection, but in a wide variety of formats. I personally use the iSolo format for my palm pilot (a T3 with the wide screen which means I get a full page of book text per screen), and I rarely have formatting issues. In fact, books are a pleasure to read.

    2. Re:Quick Script + Gutenberg? by wynterx · · Score: 5, Informative

      Please....

      Gutenberg texts are formatted the way they are for lots of quite good reasons, which you have even figured out for yourself...

      As for breaking pocket devices, what are you doing with them. They are text files!!

      To make it look adequate on a Palm:
      1. Download etext
      2. Run through gut.pl (http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/gut/) - followed by deleting the legal stuff if you like
      3. Convert to Plucker / iSilo or whatever you like
      4. Read

      I have read some great stuff this way and have not had trouble breaking my palm.

      Um BTW, as an English Major, and if you would like to pass, try leaving the apostrophe out of "it's" (... I was hoping to get modded karma-whore-informative but am now assuming that grammar-nazi-troll is more likely!)

    3. Re:Quick Script + Gutenberg? by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Funny
      Um as an English Major I...


      Ok, you intelligent, eh?

      It's catalogue falls far short.


      Lets expand that, ahall we... It's = It is (contracted form)

      "It is catalog falls far short."

      Sounds like "All your base" speech. Yeah.. Engrish Mager.
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    4. Re:Quick Script + Gutenberg? by Pemdas · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a Comp Sci major, I must warn you that your post sucks. It has massive massive editing errors (bizzare? Corectly? it's?). It could have been an excellent post, but it falls quite short. Its spelling and prose falls far short.

    5. Re:Quick Script + Gutenberg? by Spunk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, from where are you? I find your use of the (US) term "English major" surprising juxtaposed with your (UK) spelling of the word "catalogue".

      He's from England, and a Major in the British Army. An English Major.

  4. Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am an ex sotware engineer in my fifties who did exactly this. In my 20's I collected about 2000 core classics so they could always be at hand. I've read most of them too.

    I can't say whether they have "improved my life" since the substrate of my perspective now depends upon them. For example, because of them I decided that engineering is too limiting.

    But if you have faith that generating interconnections in the brain between sense, experience and imaginitive possibilities is a good thing, then this is the way to go.

  5. Might still be a good choice for a new library by Diakoneo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, they're paperback which means the popular ones would wear out quickly. But if you were feeling philanthropic and wanted to give an otherwise sparse school library a boost, I could see it.
    You should probably ask them first, though. I'm picturing Monday morning at the hometown library. The UPS rep knocks on the door to get a signature, and the librarian looks up to a couple semi-loads of books starting to be unloaded in their front yard!

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  6. Re:The math is wrong by psychofox · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you read and clicked through the article....

    You would see at

    http://tinyurl.com/bfj8v

    "Approximately 700 pounds in weight, the titles would tower 828 feet if you stacked them atop each other--almost as tall as the Empire State Building."

    This means end to end, rather than back to back.

    So, the maths are correct. Your interpretation is wrong..! :-O

  7. Do the math... by egburr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At the discount price, this is roughly $7 a book. While I may not be able to get them all at once, I sure can get them a lot cheaper other ways. That is the price of new books by well-known authors, and I have a very hard time bringing myself to pay that (I can't help but think of scrimping to save $1.50 to go buy a brand new book each week just 15 years ago). I can't imagine paying those prices for these "classics". No wonder the shipping is so cheap.

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  8. Not to be confused with the "penguin" classics, by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


    which can be found in /usr/src/linux

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  9. Re:So how many... by scovetta · · Score: 4, Informative

    You fool! A review clearly indicates:

    A small caution is that they do have not really duplicates but different versions or translations of some works as "The Iliad" by Homer has four different books:
    ISBN: 0140445927
    ISBN: 0140275363
    ISBN: 0140444440
    ISBN: 0140447946

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  10. Harvard Classics by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a set of the Harvard Classics on my bookshelf, the "five-foot-shelf" that is a very good collection of Great Books. (http://www.bartleby.com/hc/). Biography, history, drama, literature, fiction, philosophy, science, politics, religion... it's all there. I've been working my way through it for almost twenty years. Well worth having around, as it means you will never lack for high-quality reading material.

    My alma mater, the University of Chicago (http://www.uchicago.edu/), is very much a Great Books kind of place. Here's a good list to start with (from "How to Read a Book" by Mortimer J. Adler and Charles Van Doren, 1972):

    1. Homer (9th Century B.C.?)
    Iliad
    Odyssey
    2. The Old Testament
    3. Aeschylus (c.525-456 B.C.)
    Tragedies
    4. Sophocles (c.495-406 B.C.)
    Tragedies
    5. Herodotus (c.484-425 B.C.)
    History
    6. Euripides (c.485-406 B.C.)
    Tragedies
    (esp. Medea, Hippolytus, The Bacchae)
    7. Thucydides (c.460-400 B.C.)
    History of the Peloponnesian War
    8. Hippocrates (c.460-377? B.C.)
    Medical Writings
    9. Aristophanes (c.448-380 B.C.)
    Comedies
    (esp. The Clouds, The Birds, The Frogs)
    10. Plato (c.427-347 B.C.)
    Dialogues
    (esp. The Republic, Symposium, Phaedo, Meno, Apology, Phaedrus, Protagoras, Gorgias, Sophist, Theaetetus)
    11. Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)
    Works
    (esp. Organon, Physics, Metaphysics, On the Soul, The Nicomachean Ethics, Politics, Rhetoric, Poetics)
    12. Epicurus (c.341-270 B.C.)
    Letter to Herodotus
    Letter to Menoeceus
    13. Euclid (fl.c. 300 B.C.)
    Elements
    14. Archimedes (c.287-212 B.C.)
    Works
    (esp. On the Equilibrium of Planes, On Floating Bodies, The Sand-Reckoner)
    15. Apollonius of Perga (fl.c.240 B.C.)
    Conic Sections
    16. Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
    Works
    (esp. Orations, On Friendship, On Old Age)
    17. Lucretius (c.95-55 B.C.)
    On the Nature of Things
    18. Virgil (70-19 B.C.)
    Works
    19. Horace (65-8 B.C.)
    Works
    (esp. Odes and Epodes, The Art of Poetry)
    20. Livy (59 B.C.-A.D. 17)
    History of Rome
    21. Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 17)
    Works
    (esp. Metamorphoses)
    22. Plutarch (c.45-120)
    Parallel Lives
    Moralia
    23. Tacitus (c.55-117)
    Histories
    Annals
    Agricola
    Germania
    24. Nicomachus of Gerasa (fl.c. 100 A.D.)
    Introduction to Arithmetic
    25. Epictetus (c.60-120)
    Discourses
    Encheiridion (Handbook)
    26. Ptolemy (c.100-170; fl. 127-151)
    Almagest
    27. Lucian (c.120-c.190)
    Works
    (esp. The True Way to Write History, The True History, The Sale of Creeds)
    28. Marcus Aurelius (121-180)
    Meditations
    29. Galen (c. 130-200)
    On the Natural Faculties
    30. The New Testament
    31. Plotinus (205-270)
    The Enneads
    32. St. Augustine (354-430)
    Works
    (esp. On the Teacher, Confessions, City of God, On Christian Doctrine)
    33. The Song of Roland (12th century?)
    34. The Nibelungenlied (13th century?)
    (Völsunga Saga is the Scandinavian version of the same legend)
    35. The Saga of Burnt Njal
    36. St. Thomas Aquinas (c.1225-1274)
    Summa Theologica
    37. Dante Alighieri (1265-1321)
    Works
    (esp. The New Life, On Monarchy, The Divine Comedy)
    38. Geoffrey Chaucer (c.1340-1400)
    Works
    (esp. Troilus and Criseyde, The Canterbury Tales)
    39. Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
    Notebooks
    40. Niccolò Machiavelli (1469-1527)
    The Prince
    Discourses on the First Ten Books of Livy
    41. Desiderius Erasmus (c.1

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  11. Re:Gutenberg doesnt have the geek classics by Intron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Principia Mathematica - Russell & Whitehead
    Relativity - Einstein
    Origin of Species - Darwin
    Necronomicon - Abdul Alhazred

    OK, all but the last one.

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  12. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The list contains:
    # Beowulf by Anonymous
    # Beowulf: A Prose Translation by Anonymous
    # Beowulf: A Verse Translation by Anonymous

    Which, as we all recognize, is a Beowulf cluster....

  13. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Also, wrong. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Massive massive editing errors"? Holy shit! Can you point out one of these massive massive errors?
    Or are you possibly referring to errors which were in the original text, which the Project explicitly refuses to correct, since their stated goal is to preserve the original author's intent, even if that original author couldn't spell?

    The "bizzare [sic] formatting system" Gutenberg uses is Plain Vanilla ASCII for a reason---longetivity. They say it better than I could; read their rationale. They're more interested in making the text stable for the long term, than in compiling it for your device-of-the-week. Besides, as other users have pointed out, you can, with little to moderate effort, derive your proprietary format from the ASCII plaintext.

    Not to mention that Gutenberg provides some titles in RTF format. Or HTML, including formatting, illustration, and so on. Or that they have a whole section about reading their eBooks on PDAs.

    When was the last time you used PG? 1985? They have over 16,000 etexts, with more being added every day---how is this falling "far short"? What great and towering public-domain works does their catalog lack?

    --grendel drago

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