No charges for anything incoming in the UK, including on t-mobile. This seems like an odd concept, how can you be charged for something you haven't asked for or initiated? I'm pretty impressed with T-Mobile here, £20 gets 6 months of "unlimited" (actually throttled if you go over 1gb/mo) HSDPA usage on their pay as you go plan.
Well normally you do have to build & link it yourself, although they've recently started providing binaries for at least suse. Greg K-H has hinted that some of the kernel developers may not put up with this for long though. I suspect we may see this aspect of the GPL challenged within the next couple of years, with more and more companies taking the same route as nvidia. Creative for example. It will bring the issue to a head.
Actually you're wrong. The nvidia interface source is available, but it is NOT GPLed. This a commonly held assumption which is completely false, have a look at the licence headers on the files in question.
/* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_BEGIN_
*
* Copyright 1999-2001 by NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. All
* information contained herein is proprietary and confidential to NVIDIA
* Corporation. Any use, reproduction, or disclosure without the written
* permission of NVIDIA Corporation is prohibited.
*
* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_END_
*/
The GPL is mentioned nowhere.
Also it links to GPLed kernel headers, making it a derivative work of the kernel, and hence violates the kernel developer's copyright.
No it is not limited in any way, only the amount of time you get free updates for is limited, the product is not limited in any way. You can also find a 3rd party to give you the support if you wish, for example centos for RHEL. Also as I said, SUSE Linux/openSUSE is the same codebase as the enterprise SLE product, the difference is that one is marketed at businesses who need the subscription, the other is targeted at people like you who don't, the product is the same.
http://www.novell.com/products/server/eval.html and http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/eval.html You get 60 days of free update subscriptions, or you can continue to use without support, or find someone else to support it. Also SUSE Linux/openSUSE is exactly the same codebase as the enterprise version, so if you want free updates you can use that. The enterprise versions are targetted at businesses which want support contracts, they are the same distribution.
It sounds like you're just uninformed, rather than trolling, so thought I'd correct you.
You have always been able to download any version of SUSE and distribute the GPLed components according to the GPL, for the last several versions the non-oss components have been moved out of the core distribution and are on an additional CD/repository you may use if you wish , so there is not even any "extraction" required. Even the enterprise version is freely downloadable, but don't expect to get a free support contract with it. The same is true of Red hat/fedora.
They provide the source to the interface because there is no stable ABI for the kernel. You may assume that it is GPL but it is not, from the files themselves:
Since the Linux kernel does not support a binary driver interface, we
provide for rebuilding these files on the target machine (or distribution)
and then linking with the binary version of the NV kernel driver.
/* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_BEGIN_
*
* Copyright 1999-2001 by NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. All
* information contained herein is proprietary and confidential to NVIDIA
* Corporation. Any use, reproduction, or disclosure without the written
* permission of NVIDIA Corporation is prohibited.
*
* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_END_
*/
You are of course correct that it is only distribution which has legal issues.
" (a) using an open-source wrapper, so their real driver doesn't use any of the Linux kernel interfaces directly" - This wrapper is indeed open in that you can look at it, but it is not GPL, or free software of any kind, making it just as illegal to link to the GPLed kernel as if it were not open at all.
Several commenters appear to think that this is due to the arrest of Hans, In fact it was announced over a month ago, before any of the stories about Hans broke. The original announcement is from the 14th september http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09 /msg00542.html
They are currently in the process of replacing all the trains on the london to brighton line with nice new ones, which are a lot better. It is a very busy line however, at peak times people are bound to have to stand no matter how many seats there are.
I installed this from cvs yesterday. The new composite extension amazing, full shadows and transparency possible, yet everything renders faster than i've ever seen X, no flicker whatsoever.
In order to use the composite extension i had to add:
I read Linux Format. It has current news, reviews of new open source software, programming tutorials and tutorials on specific programs etc. They also have a dvd full of the latest free software which saves downloads which is very useful for people with limited bandwidth.
I remapped my capslock into an extra control key months ago. I never type more than a couple of words in capitals, and can easily hold down the shift key.
Capslock is just a problem when you accidentally hit it when reading something you are keying in.
looks like they are blocking the slashdot referer. I wonder why they would want to do that.
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Boot screen looks much more polished in 9.1 LIMO, although it has always looked nicer than mandrake.
CD images don't seem to be freely available.
Automatic hardware detection has always worked fine for me with devices which are supported under linux, there is a hotplugger Lapp which does niceitys such as adding camera icons to the desktop and autorunning various types of CD (can be turned off)
Updates are released by SuSE for older distros, for major things like KDE, Gnome, Xfree etc.
Most distros have great packages installed by default.
Files and configuration locations is a matter of preference and what one is used to I would say.
I've been using SuSE 9.1 for a few days now, and it is very nice indeed. Seems a lot more responsive with kernel 2.6 as well
Actually there is some debate about the usefulness of helmets. I am a keen cyclist and do wear a helmet, and naturally have had several tumbles. However I have *never* hit my head.
The problem with helmets is that it increases the diameter of your head significantly, so if you do fall off you may hit your head when if you were not wearing a helmet you might not have hit it at all.
Yes, in KDE (since 3.1 i think) there is an option in the menu to "Start new session".
This basically starts a new X session which you can log into, and you can switch between with ctrl-alt-f7/f8
In London we have cameras which recognise numberplates to check if people have paid the congestion charge to enter city centre.
Numberplate recognition is also used on speed cameras to automatically send speeding tickets to offenders.
This is one of the reasons why I prefer SuSE to say mandrake. SuSE provide rpms for new versions of major packages like KDE and GNOME and Xfree86 on their FTP site. They also backport them for several versions.
See here
From their readme: "We publish these packages as a service to the community (you) because many
users of the SuSE Linux operating system wish to use newer versions of
specific packages due to feature or hardware support constraints in older
SuSE Linux versions without the obligation to upgrade the entire system. "
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No charges for anything incoming in the UK, including on t-mobile. This seems like an odd concept, how can you be charged for something you haven't asked for or initiated? I'm pretty impressed with T-Mobile here, £20 gets 6 months of "unlimited" (actually throttled if you go over 1gb/mo) HSDPA usage on their pay as you go plan.
Actually the MS-Novell deal does not prevent microsoft from suing novell, nor vice versa. This is a common misconception. Please see http://en.opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS#But_this_agreement_means_that_Microsoft_won.27t_sue_Novell.2C_but_it_can_sue_others
Well normally you do have to build & link it yourself, although they've recently started providing binaries for at least suse. Greg K-H has hinted that some of the kernel developers may not put up with this for long though. I suspect we may see this aspect of the GPL challenged within the next couple of years, with more and more companies taking the same route as nvidia. Creative for example. It will bring the issue to a head.
Actually you're wrong. The nvidia interface source is available, but it is NOT GPLed. This a commonly held assumption which is completely false, have a look at the licence headers on the files in question.
/* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_BEGIN_
*
* Copyright 1999-2001 by NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. All
* information contained herein is proprietary and confidential to NVIDIA
* Corporation. Any use, reproduction, or disclosure without the written
* permission of NVIDIA Corporation is prohibited.
*
* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_END_
*/
The GPL is mentioned nowhere.
Also it links to GPLed kernel headers, making it a derivative work of the kernel, and hence violates the kernel developer's copyright.
No it is not limited in any way, only the amount of time you get free updates for is limited, the product is not limited in any way. You can also find a 3rd party to give you the support if you wish, for example centos for RHEL. Also as I said, SUSE Linux/openSUSE is the same codebase as the enterprise SLE product, the difference is that one is marketed at businesses who need the subscription, the other is targeted at people like you who don't, the product is the same.
http://www.novell.com/products/server/eval.html and http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/eval.html You get 60 days of free update subscriptions, or you can continue to use without support, or find someone else to support it. Also SUSE Linux/openSUSE is exactly the same codebase as the enterprise version, so if you want free updates you can use that. The enterprise versions are targetted at businesses which want support contracts, they are the same distribution.
It sounds like you're just uninformed, rather than trolling, so thought I'd correct you.
You have always been able to download any version of SUSE and distribute the GPLed components according to the GPL, for the last several versions the non-oss components have been moved out of the core distribution and are on an additional CD/repository you may use if you wish , so there is not even any "extraction" required. Even the enterprise version is freely downloadable, but don't expect to get a free support contract with it. The same is true of Red hat/fedora.
They provide the source to the interface because there is no stable ABI for the kernel. You may assume that it is GPL but it is not, from the files themselves:
/* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_BEGIN_
Since the Linux kernel does not support a binary driver interface, we
provide for rebuilding these files on the target machine (or distribution)
and then linking with the binary version of the NV kernel driver.
*
* Copyright 1999-2001 by NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. All
* information contained herein is proprietary and confidential to NVIDIA
* Corporation. Any use, reproduction, or disclosure without the written
* permission of NVIDIA Corporation is prohibited.
*
* _NVRM_COPYRIGHT_END_
*/
You are of course correct that it is only distribution which has legal issues.
" (a) using an open-source wrapper, so their real driver doesn't use any of the Linux kernel interfaces directly" - This wrapper is indeed open in that you can look at it, but it is not GPL, or free software of any kind, making it just as illegal to link to the GPLed kernel as if it were not open at all.
Several commenters appear to think that this is due to the arrest of Hans, In fact it was announced over a month ago, before any of the stories about Hans broke. The original announcement is from the 14th september http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09 /msg00542.html
Just FYI incase your reading this, rather than compiling things simply add: http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/9.3/ as a source for the yast package manager as described here http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:yastsources Then you can install the w32codecs, and xine and mplayer etc without any crippling
If you install using the 5cds you can still access all the packages from the full mirror simply by adding a mirror as a yast source, see http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:yastsources
They are currently in the process of replacing all the trains on the london to brighton line with nice new ones, which are a lot better.
It is a very busy line however, at peak times people are bound to have to stand no matter how many seats there are.
I installed this from cvs yesterday. The new composite extension amazing, full shadows and transparency possible, yet everything renders faster than i've ever seen X, no flicker whatsoever.
In order to use the composite extension i had to add:
Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection
and
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
to my nvidia driver section of my xorg.conf file
then install xcompmgr to turn it on since kwin doesn't utilise it yet.
I read Linux Format. It has current news, reviews of new open source software, programming tutorials and tutorials on specific programs etc. They also have a dvd full of the latest free software which saves downloads which is very useful for people with limited bandwidth.
Hmm, thought i'd read this before.
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=106150&cid=90
Not so for me Konsole: real 0m11.138s user 0m7.174s sys 0m0.467s gnome-terminal: real 0m25.629s user 0m12.270s sys 0m0.782s
Caps Lock is EVIL!
I remapped my capslock into an extra control key months ago. I never type more than a couple of words in capitals, and can easily hold down the shift key.
Capslock is just a problem when you accidentally hit it when reading something you are keying in.
looks like they are blocking the slashdot referer. I wonder why they would want to do that.
Boot screen looks much more polished in 9.1 LIMO, although it has always looked nicer than mandrake. CD images don't seem to be freely available. Automatic hardware detection has always worked fine for me with devices which are supported under linux, there is a hotplugger Lapp which does niceitys such as adding camera icons to the desktop and autorunning various types of CD (can be turned off) Updates are released by SuSE for older distros, for major things like KDE, Gnome, Xfree etc. Most distros have great packages installed by default. Files and configuration locations is a matter of preference and what one is used to I would say. I've been using SuSE 9.1 for a few days now, and it is very nice indeed. Seems a lot more responsive with kernel 2.6 as well
Actually there is some debate about the usefulness of helmets. I am a keen cyclist and do wear a helmet, and naturally have had several tumbles. However I have *never* hit my head.
The problem with helmets is that it increases the diameter of your head significantly, so if you do fall off you may hit your head when if you were not wearing a helmet you might not have hit it at all.
Yes, in KDE (since 3.1 i think) there is an option in the menu to "Start new session".
This basically starts a new X session which you can log into, and you can switch between with ctrl-alt-f7/f8
In London we have cameras which recognise numberplates to check if people have paid the congestion charge to enter city centre. Numberplate recognition is also used on speed cameras to automatically send speeding tickets to offenders.
This is one of the reasons why I prefer SuSE to say mandrake. SuSE provide rpms for new versions of major packages like KDE and GNOME and Xfree86 on their FTP site. They also backport them for several versions.
See here
From their readme: "We publish these packages as a service to the community (you) because many users of the SuSE Linux operating system wish to use newer versions of specific packages due to feature or hardware support constraints in older SuSE Linux versions without the obligation to upgrade the entire system. "
Before I had adsl i would regularly buy linux format
http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
which regularly had linux distros bundled, and also all latest versions of kde, gnome, gimp etc.
Articles were very good as well, they did charge about 6 though.
I think that PCplus also bundle linux distros like mandrake and knoppix, however the magazine itself tends to be aimed more at novices