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Knoppix 4.0 DVD - Like a Kid in a Candy Store

IdleTime writes "O'Reilly Developer Weblogs has a nice review of the new yet unreleased Knoppix 4.0 on DVD. As the article says 'A totally new release of Knoppix was unveiled at LinuxTag 2005, Knoppix 4.0. This is the release that introduces the split between "maxi" DVD and "mini" CD releases. I've tried out the 4.0 DVD and let me tell you, I'm like a kid in a candy store.'" AlexanderT points to some currently available torrent files for the DVD.

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  1. maybe im alone on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    But the article could have been summed up by just saying "it has tons of packages. Pretty much everything you'd expect."

    1. Re:maybe im alone on this one by (1+-sqrt(5))*(2**-1) · · Score: 4, Interesting
      [I]t has tons of packages. Pretty much everything you'd expect.
      That said, I really hope they put LaTeX back in the DVD version; LaTeX was my main motivation for booting up Knoppix at school.
    2. Re:maybe im alone on this one by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I find that making math formulas in OO.o works pretty well. It's also a lot easier if you're doing a lot of regular typing with a few formulas thrown in. I can't stand the Equation Editor for microsoft word. The fact that you have to click to do just about anything is what makes it terrible. OO.o is far superior in this respect, and I think that if science/math/eng. students tried it, they would love it for this simple reason.

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    3. Re:maybe im alone on this one by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 3, Insightful
      LateX differs from any other WYSIWYG typesetting editors, because it keeps content different from presentation.

      If you are writing anything over 20 pages, neither OOo nor MS Word, nor Wordperfect will do. Trust me I wrote a 100 page document once in Word, absolute nightmare.

      Latex has a learning curve, but once you have passed it, there is nothing close.

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    4. Re:maybe im alone on this one by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Informative

      The OO.o equation editor owes a lot to LaTeX - if you know LaTeX you can pretty much just use the OO.o equation editor by just typing the LaTeX with the backslashes left off.

      Having said that, the output is quite simply not the least bit comparable. LaTeX equations are beautiful, and OO.o equations are just barely tolerable (at best).

      If you must use OO.o for document preparation, but want pretty looking equations try this which allows you to insert proper LaTeX equation output into OO.o docs with ease (as well as making them conveniently easily editable).

      Jedidiah.

  2. RE: Knoppix plug by Tezkah · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the release that introduces the split between "maxi" DVD and "mini" CD releases

    My question is: are the maxi ones super absorbancy?

  3. Woo! Knoppix! by idonthack · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's made of pure awesome.

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  4. Nice....... by compmanio36 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    See, this is awesome, because I can finally have everything I ever wanted in Linux with me, to run on any PC with a DVD drive (and who doesn't have one these days?), without having to install a thing. This means when I go to a friend's house, I don't have to use their spyware infested Windows partition, I can just pop in the Knoppix DVD and run that.

    I would like to know what else is included in the DVD version that isn't in the CD variant, though.

    1. Re:Nice....... by kesuki · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am starting to think 2 releases a year is a rush.

      I think you're ready for Debian linux. The current stable release spent 4 years getting ready to be released. Then they delayed the release by 6 months because 'it wasn't ready.'

  5. From the article by Jonathan · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I've really only scratched the surface of the Knoppix 4.0 DVD"

    Ouch -- it hasn't been released yet and he's already ruined his copy? Hopefully he didn't delete the image file or he'll have to download it again.

  6. Re:Uh by Tezkah · · Score: 5, Informative

    But these websites are so trustworthy!

    Quote from torrentreactor.to in IE:

    The site might require the following ActiveX control: 'Free Download Access__ Click YES - If you agre...' from 'WEBSITE ACCCESS'. Click here to install..

    Well, if WEBSITE ACCCESS wants me to install it, I better! It has THREE C's! That's one more C than normal access!

    Come on guys, this is free software, no need to go to disreputable torrent sites to download it.

  7. Re:FP by xotx69 · · Score: 3, Funny

    NO!

  8. Kid in a candy store? by lheal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Having RTFA, I see he meant it was fun to look at all the cool treats in store for Knoppix users.

    I was hoping he didn't mean morbidly obese, toothless, and spoiled rotten by overindulgent or inattentive parents.

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  9. Re: Knoppix plug by skreeech · · Score: 5, Funny

    no but they have wings

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  10. Re:Uh by Sancho · · Score: 3, Informative

    Generally there's a -en ISO and a -de ISO. The -de defaults to German while the -en defaults to English. It is possible to get a US language/keyboard from the de version and vice versa, however you have to know where the = key is on the German keyboard (something like shift-2?)

  11. At the other end of the spectrum ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    we have Damn Small Linux. www.damnsmalllinux.org

    It takes just 50 MB and can be run off read only memory (or memory that you shouldn't write too much to) like compact flash or a usb dongle. It is a riff off Knoppix. It is the easiest way to create an 'embedded' system that I've seen.

    Not only does Linux scale well but so, apparently, does Knoppix.

  12. Re:Uh by Sir_Real · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whatever do you mean? What if I'm just suspicious of Germans you insensitive clod?! Okay. You caught me. I never thought of "lang=us". I tried up up down down left right left right b a select start though.

  13. Re:Uh by aywwts4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They arent that obscure, being fairly well documented http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes and I think if you press F2 during startup you get a list of the most common ones.

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  14. Re:XFree? by Bri3D · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because Debian(which Knoppix is based on) still runs XFree.

  15. FYI: you can't choose the software by beforewisdom · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please don't interpret this as a downer.

    I use knoppix myself, I think it is the best distro out there and I plan on continue using knoppix.

    I am just posting this because I was curious about it and had to go to the trouble to find out.

    If you are interested in installing the DVD version of Knoppix to your hard drive you have to install it all. You can't pick and choose among the software.

    FWIW.....

  16. Saving a borked system by kebes · · Score: 4, Informative

    Many of you already know this, but one of the great things about linux LiveCDs is the ability to work on an otherwise screwed-up computer, and salvage it (or the data on it, etc.). A LiveCD is absolutely great for fixing a Windows or linux PC that has gotten messed up. For instance, you can create backup images of disks using partimage and restore them with a LiveCD (in particular, the SystemRescueDisk is good for that).

    A Knoppix LiveDVD is more geared towards booting a PC and being productive (with OpenOffice, Blender 3D, etc.)... however it's a great thing to have lying around because you can diagnose and repair a system, do a full virus scan (as pointed out in TFA), while having internet access, being able to open relevant wordprocessor documents, etc. etc. A LiveDVD like this could also help in extracting files from a corrupt filesystem (you can open and work with the files immediately, if that becomes necessary).

    To anyone in the /. crowd that has not played with LiveCDs yet (or linux at all) you should seriously consider burning a copy and seeing what all the fuss is about.

  17. Re:Don't get me wrong... by joe_bruin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I love knoppix and all, but when was the last time you popped it into someone else's computer (especialy one at work or school if your not IT/fixing it) and didn't get your head bitten off.

    Well, when I was travelling around the country, visiting my friends and family, for one. I wanted to ssh into my machine to read my mail, browse the web using firefox, and play my mp3s. To accomplish this on their spyware-ridden Windows machines, I brought with my a Knoppix CD, and a DVD of my mp3 files. No installing software on their machines (they surely don't have ssh installed), no worries about having my password stolen by whoever rooted that computer, no annoying pop-ups. Using Knoppix was the least intrusive method of doing this, as their PC is 100% back to its original state when I'm done with it.

  18. Re:yeah but.... by Mike+Savior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >what about machines that lack dvd-roms?

    That's what you use 3.9 or the "mini" version for. RTFA?

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  19. Define unreleased by slapout · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two quotes from the Slashdot summary:

    "nice review of the new yet unreleased Knoppix"

    "currently available torrent files for the DVD"

    Someone must be using a definition of "unreleased" that I'm not fimilar with.

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  20. Re: Knoppix plug by maotx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, that's right, you don't have one...

    Thats what I keep telling my wife.

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  21. Re:Get on those torrents by flatface · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you have to explain the acronym, don't use it.

  22. Re:Uh by Taladar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Shift-0

  23. Re:Get on those torrents by benna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How would any acronyms come into the general lexicon then?

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  24. Re:not damn small enough by UserGoogol · · Score: 3, Funny

    He considered it, but he experienced an unacceptable performance loss when the 1s started getting stuck in the wires. 0s don't have that problem of course. No sharp edges.

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  25. Re:Get on those torrents by hdparm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nope. echo HWAACITGLT >> general_lexicon

  26. Re:not damn small enough by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny
    He considered it, but he experienced an unacceptable performance loss when the 1s started getting stuck in the wires. 0s don't have that problem of course. No sharp edges.

    If you line the 1s up lengthways, they slide down real easy. Just make sure that your way doesn't have any sharp kinks in it, or they may clog. Some people have had luck in soaking their 1s in water before transmission; it makes them easier to bend. However, wet ones have a tendency to stick together and they tend to come out the far end in clumps --- which is bad. Nothing makes a LAN game lag like soggy packets.

  27. Re:XFree? by Pastis · · Score: 3, Informative

    They still use (a Branch of) XFree 4.3.
    The license issues appeared just before 4.4
    So there are no freedom issues.

  28. Re:Uh by indifferent+children · · Score: 4, Funny

    On most recent US keyboards, it is between the left Ctrl key and the left Alt key.

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