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First Picture of new Motorola iTunes Phone?

swissfondue writes "macprime.ch. is reporting a link to a pdf presentation by Motorola's North Asia manager Michael Tatelman, VP and GM Mobile devices, made on 21 June 2005 to analysts of Morgan Stanley in Beijing. Page 15 of the presentation shows a picture of a yet unknown Motorola phone playing iTunes visualizer, with the usual Apple logo. The silhouette of the phone is not in RAZR style, but in PEBL. It seems to also be featuring a scroll wheel."

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  1. So... by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    if you get put on hold you can listen to your own music instead of theirs?

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  2. Kind of ugly IMO by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That doesn't really look like any kind of phone that I'd want to be carrying around.

    Perhaps this is Apple's answer to people saying cell phones are poised to serve as MP3 players and music downloading devices. Since Apple isn't in the mobile phone business, this might be a way to get their brand name out there even more and to keep some of their market dominance.

  3. An iTunes phone would be great... by Unloaded · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but the carriers won't sell it because they all want the content piece of the revenue stream. They're convinced that they can get you to buy into a plan that has you downloading songs from their service, while they charge you airtime for browsing and downloading, on top of the price per song.

    No thanks.

    1. Re:An iTunes phone would be great... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're convinced that they can get you to buy into a plan that has you downloading songs from their service, while they charge you airtime for browsing and downloading, on top of the price per song.

      They're convinced because people do it. Ringtones, applications, and stupid games for mobile phones is a billion+ dollar a year industry.

      For 30 second ringtones with crappy quality, T-mobile gets to charge $1.25+ each and people buy into it!

      I'll be more worried when they realize that they could make even more money by charging you to put your phone on buzz.

  4. Famous sayings? by nharmon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I will never combine an iPod with a cell phone" - Steve Jobs.

    "There will never be unions in my plants" - Henry Ford.

  5. Microsoft's Prediction... by LegendOfLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Didn't Bill Gates predict the fall of the iPod with an MP3-enabled phone?

    Looks like Apple is going to beat them to the punch once again.

  6. Engadget by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Engadget reported the same thing yesterday with a pic and it's even in English.

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  7. Re:Public Danger... by daniil · · Score: 3, Funny
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  8. A scroll wheel? by mcc · · Score: 4, Funny

    So... in other words it's... a rotary phone?

    :O

    1. Re:A scroll wheel? by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, don't knock it -- that might actually work better, since a lot of calls are made by scrolling through an address book instead of punching in numbers.

      Plus, it'd be cool. : D

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    2. Re:A scroll wheel? by takotech · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,62356,00.html

      Sorry about the flash. This phone has no digits, only a scroll wheel. $600.

  9. Re:No Games by savagedome · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> Wait, how do I dial a phone that only has one butan?

    Don't worry. It's a special Apple BUTAN. All you have to do is to hold down the button and think of the person you are dialing. The BUTAN does it for you. All bow to the BUTAN!

  10. What happened to basic phones? by strongmace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know I, my family, and many of my friends, do not need these super tricked out phones. We do not need games, dozens of ringtones, video playback, cameras, or mp3 players in our phones.

    All we need is a very basic phone, that has a phone book, maybe voice activated dialing, and voicemail.

    It is getting pretty difficult to find basic cell phones as it is. All the vendors try to press all these phones with extra features that I will never use. Damnit, I dont need my phone to be able to play mp3s. /me grumbles

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    1. Re:What happened to basic phones? by desolation+angel · · Score: 4, Informative
      What like this one?

      A back-to-basics mobile launched

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    2. Re:What happened to basic phones? by GauteL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For every news story about a new mobile phone:

      1. Complain that there is no more basic phones
      2. Get moderated +4 Insightful
      3. Profit!

      Come on, this is the same thing every bleeding time a new phone is announced. Get over it already.

      The fact is that it is cheaper for the manufacturers to make a limited selection of models at the same time.

      Features sell phones, so the minimum number of features will always go up.

      For every 1 user that only needs a phone book and voicemail, there is probably 20 that also wants polyphonic ringtones, 10 that wants a colour display and a 100 users that also need text messaging.

      It does not make sense to make every single combination of these phones, so you will either have a phone that is underfeatured or overfeatured.

      If it is underfeatured you will have lost most of your customers. If it is overfeatured the people that need less will still buy it.

    3. Re:What happened to basic phones? by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most phone makers to a "basic" phone

      The LG phone I've got is about the most basic one on the list the carrier offered for our area. It's too damn fancy and complex and even if you don't USE the features you're still paying for them in reduced battery life.

      go with the ~£25 Nokia 1100.

      Oh, a pom.

      That explains everything. Look, sunshine, you're in bloody cellphone heaven. Here in the US it's like the third world, except the third bloody world generally has better cellphone service than the US. You don't get a choice of phones when you sign up, you don't usually get to buy a phone and use it with your service because everyone's phones are locked... and not what you guys think of as locked either: there's like four different cellular protocols and most of them don't have any concept of phone portability like GSM does.

      So people who are frustrated by crappy cellphones, they probably don't have any of the options you're talking about. Even PAYG isn't PAYG as you know it.

    4. Re:What happened to basic phones? by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For every 1 user that only needs a phone book and voicemail, there is probably 20 that also wants polyphonic ringtones, 10 that wants a colour display and a 100 users that also need text messaging.

      You have the numbers backwards.

      For every 1 user that needs polyphonic ringtones or a a color display, there's 10 who just want a bloody phone. And EVERYONE benefits from longer battery life.

      Text messaging? That's just software. You don't need to build a fancy phone to get text. OK, OK, you can't get text on a 7 segment LED, but that's a bit primitive even for us puritans.

  11. Re:Geek Candy Bars by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Candy bar" refers to a non-folding phone design.

  12. Bah by Khuffie · · Score: 5, Funny
    PEBL? RAZR? SLVR?

    Does no one at Motorola have spell check turned on?

    1. Re:Bah by Rolan · · Score: 3, Funny

      They're just trying to be 1337.

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  13. Nothing like... by llamalicious · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...linking a 6+MB PDF directly. Then posting on the homepage.

    Really, have some compassion Slashdot. :P

  14. Re:Public Danger... by pahles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Great. Now people will be able to talk and listen to music while driving....

    I've always been able to talk while driving. Listening to music isn't that difficult to, just turn on the car stereo.

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  15. Great! More Buttons on a Phone! by smug_lisp_weenie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now they actually have to superimpose them on top of each other (note how the scroll pad intersects the number keys)- Don't these designers understand that this is a horrible design?

    It's so obvious what to do: The scroll wheel is great for picking songs and numbers to call out of the address book- For numbers, just use voice recognition: Having a recognizer just for digits works fantastically already- Heck, they wouldn't even have to do the recognition in the handset, but use a central server to handle that part, if it requires too many computrons!

    For crissakes, the whole point of the scroll pad is that it is a versatile input device- The scroll pad is all you need!

  16. Re:Geek Candy Bars by radish · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Candy Bar" is the term used in the industry for phones which don't fold or bend or twist or anything else, like most Nokias.

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  17. Yeah but.. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it accept Morse code? :)

  18. "First Picture of new Motorola iTunes Phone?" by anonicon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ya know, when I see incredibly dumb Apple topics like this one, this article immediately springs to mind:

    iProduct.

  19. For those that don't want to click and RTFA by Delta-9 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a Link to a screenshot of page 15 w/ a photo of the phone.

    Mod me however you feel, I don't care.

    1. Re:For those that don't want to click and RTFA by babbage · · Score: 3, Funny

      That thing clearly has too many buttons on it to be an Apple mouse :-)

    2. Re:For those that don't want to click and RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, here is a better link to that image

  20. Re:Not even sure it's that by badasscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's a fake, it's a pretty impressive one from what I can see.

    It is almost certainly a fake and it is not very impressive from my point of view.

    The strongest evidence of a fake is that all of the graphics in this presentation are raster, except for this phone, which appears to be vector. Does that make any sense to you? No, not to me either. It's almost as if Motorola would have used one source for all of their images and then a second source for just the image of this phone. Now, you can assume that there'd be some back and forth with Apple or possibly even an outside design agency over this phone, but that still wouldn't explain why this one graphic is in a completely different format than all the others.

    Second, this phone is not a PEBL. The PEBL is a specific model, as is the RAZR. Yet it appears under the heading of "PEBL".

    Third, the design of the phone itself doesn't make any visual sense. Look at it. It's simply a candybar phone that somebody has Photoshopped an ugly green wheel directly on top of. If we're to believe this, there are actually buttons under the scroll wheel.

    Lastly, does this thing look like anything Apple would actually sanction? I mean, seriously. Use your critical thinking skills. Apple has some very rigorous standards for their branding, and they only allow their logos to appear on products that they have approved. Something this big, I can't imagine Steve Jobs himself not being personally involved with. And this does not look like anything either Apple or Jobs would ever allow out there. Not just because it's ugly (though there is that), but it just looks so completely different from their design ethos. Apple is not going to have their first iTunes phone be a mini-Xbox.

    I have no doubt this was a real presentation, but this image was not originally part of it, and it is not a real Motorola phone. If I'm wrong, I will eat my hat.