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Microsoft In Talks To Buy Claria

axonis writes "For the last two weeks, Microsoft has been in talks to buy Claria, an adware marketer formerly called Gator, and best known for its pop-up ads and software that tracks people visiting Web sites. The offer price on the table as recently as Wednesday was $500 million. One person briefed on the deal said there was opposition within Microsoft to the acquisition. Analysts said Microsoft would probably be most interested in the long-term potential of Claria's personalization software rather than its pop-up ads."

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  1. I thought that said CHINA! by bc90021 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and I got really scared there for a second. ;)

    It could, of course, be a good thing, if they can buy the company, and use their software for something other than spyware and popups!

    1. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by ari_j · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought the exact same thing, but I didn't even get scared. The only reason I took the time to click on the comment link without even reading the blurb, much less TFA, was because I realized I read it wrong. Had it actually said "China," I would have just passed it off and gone on with my day. And that is scary.

    2. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or they might embed spyware that's even more impossible to remove from your computer. You thought gator was hard to remove? Wait until he's coded into the kernel

    3. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by CSMastermind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, Microsoft has had a long record of strongly fighting spammers and their lot. Now Microsoft is releasing antivirus and antispyware tools. What better way to shut down a company that produces so much spyware and other unwanted adds than to buy them. From the deal, they'd not only get the code to the software (which could improve their removal tools) but also valuable code for personalization. I say they should go for it.

    4. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by rpozz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What better way to shut down a company that produces so much spyware and other unwanted adds than to buy them.

      Sends out the wrong sort of message when they buy them for $500 million though.

    5. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by Sfing_ter · · Score: 2, Funny

      The $500mil is for the DATA they have collected. The software is trivial, although we will see M$ really integrate it in the next version of IE. >:}

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    6. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by tzuriel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's so weird. I also thought it said CHINA. I see that others experienced the same thing. There must be a name for this phenomenon. Any Grammarians out there?

    7. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by agallagh42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      A direct result of some fantastic industrial espionage. Quoting from an "official" memo I stumbled across in a dumpster in redmond:

      "We have established that much of Google's success is based on their corporate culture. The culture is based on their unofficial motto. We were unable to retrieve a full copy of the motto, but hopefully two thirds of it will be enough to get the point. I recommend basing all future business decisions on the idea that this motto puts forth.

      The motto as we know it is "{smudged word} BE EVIL"

      Hopefully the smudged word isn't too important...

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    8. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Off course not, that would be underhanded.

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    9. Re:I thought that said CHINA! by Beale · · Score: 2, Funny

      You just wait until Clippy is replaced by the Bonzi Buddy.

  2. What to do with them? by dlefavor · · Score: 5, Funny

    With any luck they'll buy them and then blow them up.

    1. Re:What to do with them? by ds_job · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I did think that $500 million was a little steep to buy the company, then shut it down, then distribute some Marketing PR to say that Microsoft had just made progress towards making you Windows PC safer. Why fix privacy loopholes if you can just buy the people who exploit / use them.

    2. Re:What to do with them? by millahtime · · Score: 4, Funny

      Doubt that. I can see them integrating it with their install of Office on a mac though.

    3. Re:What to do with them? by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I did think that $500 million was a little steep to buy the company, then shut it down,

      Well, if you have enough deep pockets, that might be the way to get rid off spyware. buy their knowledge base and see how they do it.

      Off course, this becomes the newest way to make money via a popup software. Get annoying enough so that Microsoft buys you.

      I wonder which way this will effect the MS reputation?

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    4. Re:What to do with them? by BewireNomali · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This seems to me the kind of acquisition that microsoft might have wanted to keep under wraps. They have a shoddy reputation as a company, and buying an adware company just doesn't seem like a good PR move on paper. Even with the best spin you can put on it, it just gives the general user less reason to trust what it already feels is shoddy software. And that 500 million might be seen as rewarding the efforts of adware and spam outfits.

      Keep in mind that I didn't read the article.

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    5. Re:What to do with them? by saintp · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I wonder which way this will effect the MS reputation?
      Here, I'll write the first line of their press release for them: "Microsoft (MSFT) has spent over half a billion dollars this year fighting spyware,...."
  3. Antispyware, and now this? by bheer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsofts Antispyware's cred just took a dive for no fault of its own. Pity, since Giant (which it was before MS purchased it) was one of the better antispyware apps.

    1. Re:Antispyware, and now this? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Microsofts Antispyware's cred just took a dive for no fault of its own. Pity, since Giant (which it was before MS purchased it) was one of the better antispyware apps.

      Crikey, nothing like jumping the gun on limited information.

      If Microsoft bought Claria, killed the spyware division and used their personalisation tools to launch a Google Adwords competitor ... how exactly would that make the AntiSpyware's cred "take a dive"?

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    2. Re:Antispyware, and now this? by kawika · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the deal went through, I am sure that Microsoft would clean up any issues with Claria's distribution practices. After all, they have Windows Update and don't need no steenkin' drive-by downloads. My concern would be with the data that Claria has collected so far. They have the seventh largest data warehouse of "consumer behavior"; it's 12 terabytes and growing.

      Claria's already said that they are moving towards an Adwords-style advertising network, and this is what Microsoft wants. They are planning to buy inventory from big web sites in bulk, then display ads in that space based on their monitoring of where the user has been and what they bought. The genius of this is that it turns web publishers from enemies into customers. The only losers are the users.

    3. Re:Antispyware, and now this? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Informative

      I suspect YMMV here; for me it was just the opposite. Giant Antispy removed a number of things that spybot and AdAware either didn't detect or couldn't remove completely.

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  4. This will eliminate SPYWare by spicydragonz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft will just embed Gator into Longhorn.

    1. Re:This will eliminate SPYWare by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Funny

      old: Where do you want to go today?
      new: We know where you've been!

    2. Re:This will eliminate SPYWare by lurch_ss · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it would probably get dropped out of Longhorn along with almost everything else.

    3. Re:This will eliminate SPYWare by Mercano · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can't wait to see what Clippy suggests now...

      "It looks like you are surfing for pr0n. Would you like help?"

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    4. Re:This will eliminate SPYWare by lgw · · Score: 2, Funny

      With the added experience in annoying users, MS will develop a JarJar version of clippy: Meesa sees yousa writing a letter! Meesa help!

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  5. Microsoft is no longer the Microsoft we all love by Bemmu · · Score: 5, Funny

    What are they thinking, don't they realize what this is going to do to their image? Microsoft, the company cherished for it's warm human point of view and high quality software, associating itself with such a low-life company.

  6. Encouragement by Mark_Uplanguage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, let's reward these companies for their abuses of the internet. 500 million reasons to be unscrupulous in business. This is going to make spyware/adware that much worse. Yea, let's here it for best business practices!!! /rant

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    1. Re:Encouragement by Art_Vandelai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Flamebait?? This comment is insightful. Because of this action, how many more asshats out there will start up spy-shit tracker cookie uninstallable scumware companies in hopes of striking it rich?

    2. Re:Encouragement by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Of course it's Flambait. More and more mods on here don't have:

      a) a sense of humor
      b) an understanding of what sarcasm is
      c) any idea of what they're doing

      Unfortunately we're stuck with the current system until the bad mods can somehow be weeded out. Meta moderating doesn't seem to be doing the trick

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  7. Wow... by trogdor8667 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just imagine. IE is already the browser most known for succombing to popups. Now Microsoft is going to own the company who makes them. Either Microsoft is doing something smart by trying to buy the technology BEHIND the popups, making them easier to block... (yeah right)... Or soon, MS will launch a Google-like system that sees us running OpenOffice, and pops up a dialog for MS Office. We'll be running Winamp, and see a popup for WMP. Just imagine! Windows popups! How fun will that be. *runs and hides from the evil Windows*

    1. Re:Wow... by DrSkwid · · Score: 3, Funny

      IE doesn't succomb, it's just having a bad hair day!

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    2. Re:Wow... by danheskett · · Score: 4, Insightful

      buy the technology BEHIND the popups, making them easier to block... (yeah right)...
      There is no "technology behind popups". It's trivial.

      The technology is in personalization of content. Adware companies are actually somewhat advanced in this area. Data-mining and such.

      Everything you said was absurd. If MS wanted to the popups you mentioned you think they'd have to pay $500M for the "technology"? Are you an idiot or just daft? I could write that program in 15 minutes, as could any decent programmer.

      I hope you are kidding.

    3. Re:Wow... by danheskett · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe they want to include it as a business intelligence feature in various packages they offer.

      For example, MS sells CRM package that's pretty big and fairly powerful. Maybe they want to add a feature so that users of the package can determine that customers in certain regions like certain products at higher rates than others, and therefore customize direct mail or catalogs or websites to meet that demographic need.

      Or maybe they want to offier more advanced OLAP into other products that will allow customers to find patterns in data.

      It's not very likely for MS's own advertising purposes, but rather, for features to be added into software they make for other businesses.

    4. Re:Wow... by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 2, Funny
      Microsoft doesn't need Claria for this. They already have lots of experience creating annoying popups. Here, let me refresh your memory:

      It looks like you're writing a letter! Would you like me to start randomly adjusting the formatting for you?

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    5. Re:Wow... by caferace · · Score: 2, Funny
      The technology is in personalization of content. Adware companies are actually somewhat advanced in this area. Data-mining and such.

      That's a nice thing to think, but you'd also be "buying" the employees who came up with Gator and all that nifty "personalization" associated with it. Personally, I wouldn't want to work with somone that skanky.

  8. on the bright side... by downerad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, at least deciding which company we hate most should get a lot easier.

    1. Re:on the bright side... by EnsilZah · · Score: 2, Funny

      And after Balmer drowns in his own sweat, Lord Gates (He's a knight you know) will make a special life support suit for him, upon wearing which he should shout "Developers!" looking dramatically upwards.

  9. I felt a great disturbance in the force. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    as if millions of pcs suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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  10. Bonzai Buddy by DavidLeblond · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft should buy whoever made Bonzai Buddy (or whatever that purple guy was called.) The integration of that and Clippy would be revolutionary.

    1. Re:Bonzai Buddy by AndersOSU · · Score: 5, Funny

      Could we make 'em fight? You know to the death? I'd install the buddy and resurect clippy if I could see that.

    2. Re:Bonzai Buddy by StonedRat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actully it's Bonzi Buddy. You can download it free from http://download.bonzi.com/freebuddy/wd/bbsetuphom. exe May contain traces of spyware.

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  11. Bad news by kahei · · Score: 3, Funny


    When they combine, they form a new terror, as vast as Microsoft yet as wicked as Claria -- and our weapons will be useless against it. It will destroy all of Meta-Tokyo, unless we can find the Magic Princess in time and give her the Moon Crystal and the Seven Essences! Your quest begins here...

    (Press 'B' to continue)

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  12. In the related news... by should_be_linear · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Popup blocking functionality was stripped from Longhorn, Microsoft announced today.

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  13. Opposition from within Microsoft by Sketch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > One person briefed on the deal said there was opposition within Microsoft to the acquisition.

    Would that be from the AntiSpyware group? ;)

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  14. Well sure, since IE7 is supposed to block pop-ups by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Besides, since Ballmer's indicated that they want to "catch Google," they'd better be able to do some very, very clever stuff with ad targeting on the MSN search side. Might as well buy (rather than build) a business unit that already has a jillion-view history, and some people that have waded through all this stuff a million times.

    Though, they should take at least a couple of the Gator people out back and wack 'em just on principle.

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  15. You can see what's coming... by Vonotar82 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pop-up security updates, click here to patch XP, "Win an X-Box 360 if you can whack Ballmer" Microsoft ads, Pop-up spam on competitors web sites. It is the beginning of the Microsoft Dirty War.

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  16. Makes sense to me... by pegr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gator=evil money sucking leeches...
    MS=(I'll let you figure that one...)

    1. Re:Makes sense to me... by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about:

      Q: What is the difference between Microsoft and Claria?

      A: One makes software that subverts control, slows operation to a near halt, and generally damages the way your computer functions. The other is just a spyware company.

  17. so, let me get this right.... by millahtime · · Score: 3, Funny

    One division of M$ will infect software from another divsion while a 3rd division tries to clear it off. This sounds like M$ has some serious inner turmoir going on? Talk about not being able to make up your mind.

    I really want to see how the PR people market this.

  18. I wonder.... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder if this buyout is just a way for Microsoft to kill off a whole slew of spyware? Seems to me that 500 million is a fair price to rid us of Claria's crap.

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    1. Re:I wonder.... by dragon_imp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Might be cheaper than fixing Internet Explorer...

  19. Re:Microsoft is no longer the Microsoft we all lov by guycouch · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean Claria, not Microsoft.

  20. Is anyone else scared? by suman28 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What in the world is going on?
    First, the senior level executive from Gator goes to work for Homeland Security (head still spinning from that one).
    And now, Microsoft is in talks to buy Claria?
    I smell something fishy. Suddenly, the HSD will be buying all things Microsoft, in the name of anti-terrorism and patriotism.

    1. Re:Is anyone else scared? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Department of Homeland Security appointments in the computer security area are disappointing. Amit Yoran, head of the "National Cyber Security Division" at DHS, quit in disgust. He was replaced by a lawyer and TV producer. The "National Cyber Security Division" seems to have been pushed down to a lower level of the DHS bureauracy.

    2. Re:Is anyone else scared? by Politburo · · Score: 2, Informative

      the HSD

      FYI, the correct acronym is DHS (Department of Homeland Security).

  21. Gotta be a story plant by Chairboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This rumor defies logic. By acquiring a spyware maker, no matter whether or not they intend to use the spyware themselves, Microsoft would seriously endanger their efforts to gain credibility among technical users.

    Claria is 'fruit of the poisoned tree'.

    Typically, acquisitions like this are done because it's cheaper to buy target company A then it is to develop a solution internally, and any competent business manager should be taking into account the 'cost' of associating Microsoft with a company with Claria's history.

    I would guess that the story is a plant, and that someone fell for it. Was the purpose of the plant to expose leakers? Or was it a well orchestrated prank? Either way, it seems contra-indicated for good business, and successful business is Microsoft's #1 product.

  22. Re:Interesting strategy... by millahtime · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder if Steve Ballmer has any extra pot he can sell me...

    I don't think Steve is smoking pot. It's something way stronger than that. Something top secret and isn't on the streets strong.

  23. Re:Microsoft is no longer the Microsoft we all lov by DarkBlackFox · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...the company cherished for it's warm human point of view and high quality software..."

    I think you misspelled "crap."

    It's a common typo, they keys are like, right next to each other.

    (with apologies to bash)

  24. Re:$500 Million! by bigberk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Marketing value is worth a lot. People still haven't caught on that Google's largest asset is the huge marketing knowledge they have access to both directly and indirectly (searches); the text ads are cute but not the main show. You'll see.

  25. Gator name change by nytmare · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Almost two years ago Gator changed their name to Claria in an attempt to distance themselves from their scummy reputation. It's encouraging that the media still refers to Claria/Gator by both names -- it keeps the name association going and lets people know exactly who they're dealing with.

  26. Let me give you a little history lesson by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Number of times in the entire history of the world that buying off thugs has ever made them go away: 0

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    1. Re:Let me give you a little history lesson by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a difference between buying off thugs and buying your way into their leadership position. Doesn't mean they won't jump ship and become thugs somewhere else though.

  27. talk about a value-add for the OS!!! by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Don't forget:

    NWO : "For only $29.99, we won't tell the wife/DEA/Homeland Security!"


    Oh damn, forgot to click "Post Anonymously"...

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  28. On the odd chance... by kaellinn18 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...that there's someone who's in the dark on this:

    Linky

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  29. Re:Another great innovation by MS ! by Pheersum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or maybe the adware is their final solution to the piracy problem...

  30. "Minion! Get over here!" by Cr0w+T.+Trollbot · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Minion! Get over here!"

    "Yes, Master Gates! We scurry to obey our Lordship's fearsome wrath!"

    "Minion, it's been more than a month since I found a way to make myself more evil and I'm completely out of ideas! I was wondering if your abject, toady self could come up with anything better."

    "Errrr, Your Worship could turn his steely fist of retribution to the task of creating more Windows security holes, oh Instigator of Mandatory Overtime?"

    "Bah, that's an automated process now! Try harder, you pathetic cringing worm!"

    "Ummm, you could always give more money to Darl McBride, oh Slayer of Open Source!"

    "That idiotic bungler! We were cought faking evidence in the middle of our trial and still came out on top, and he can't even drag his pathetic little farce out three years?"

    "Create an iPod clone, oh Exterminator of the Jobsian Herasy?"

    "Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Next!"

    "You could get William Hung and Billy Ray Cyrus to collaborate on a new version of "Achy Breaky Heart."

    Gates fixed his minion with a steely glare. "Even I have limits."

    "Well, then what about buying a spyware company, oh Vengeful Wielder of Billiions? One with really annoying popups and tracking software that's impossible to remove."

    "What, like RealMedia?"

    "Well, that would work, but I was thinking about Gator, oh Bringer of Viruses."

    "That's it! Great idea! Good thinking, minion! Tonight you get extra fishheads in your gruel!"

    Crow T. Trollbot

  31. Hiring Tactic by spauldo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps microsoft just wants to aquire a group of programmers who have proven their capability for evil. People who won't let bad karma get in the way of making a buck.

    Next, they'll be buying SCO for its executives and legal team. These are the staff they need to fight open source.

    (it's a joke people, don't take it seriously)

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  32. Microsoft AntiSpyware? by jim_v2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I heard MS was going to get adware and spyware under control, I thought they meant with a program...not by buying the whole adware companies!

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  33. Both sides of the pop-up problem by Progman3K · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Microsoft buys Claria, they'll effectively be holding both sides of the pop-up/under problem.

    Maybe they'll be able to develop a pop-over/under technology that CAN'T be blocked by browsers by controlling both sides.

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  34. Re:Microsoft re-establishes position in global mar by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, you're right, of course. Search engines, including MSN and Google, should always operate at a loss, preferrably until they go out of business. And if they do decide to do something as tasteless as run side-bar ads to pay for what everyone uses millions of times a day, they certainly shouldn't use any sort of technology to make those ads actually relevent or attractive to the people that the paying advertisers want to reach. Definately not. I know that the almighty, completely benign Google will surely lead the way in first abandoning any sort of contextual/visitor awareness in their ads, and then stop running them altogether and drain their shareholders' money until it all dries up and goes away.

    Wait... I've got an idea. If you don't like MS, don't use their free search engine, and don't patronize the thousands of merchants and other entities that choose to advertise there. Gosh, that was complicated.

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  35. What better way? Sue 'em... by Simonetta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These sleazy pop-up ad makers are a public nuisance. They are a major source of pollution in the internet experience. Microsoft should have just bullied them out of the way.

    The previous poster was right about making have these shitheads in the kernel. Microsoft would never pay $500 million to buy a company in order to get them to stop harassing people. It's most likely that Microsoft is buying this technology to constantly check if the individual copy of Windows on a PC is registered with them. If not (or if the registration number doesn't match the microprocessor ID number secretly included in the registration process), then the pop-up message routines embedded in the Windows kernel will incessantly blast the user to transfer the full list price from their checking account to Microsoft.
    But, like all Microsoft stuff, it won't work completely right and even after paying, the poor schmucks will continue to be blasted with annoying messages. Microsoft will charge them a service fee for problem solving, an activation fee, a supplemental fee for having used an unregistered copy of windows, a fee for having been born, etc...
    This could be good for Linux if Microsoft if Gates finally makes good on his famous 1977 letter of intent to stop people from using software without paying him. People use Windows because it is easy, more-or-less, and because Linux is such a pain in the ass to work with due to the inability of its designers to transcend their 'computer priesthood' mentality. I realize that comment will get the message marked as a troll, but, beautiful slashdaughters, it's so true.
    But if Microsoft decides to use this new technology to harass the hell out of people, then they will come to Linux, kicking and cursing the whole way, and they will provide the major boost and surge in popularity that will break the Microsoft monopoly.

  36. Gator and HomeSec by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Informative
    > old: Where do you want to go today?
    > new: We know where you've been!

    That's not (+5, Funny), it's (+5, Informative), you insensitive clod!

    Gator CPO at the Department of Homeland Security

    D. Reed Freeman, the "Chief Privacy Officer" of Claria Networks (formerly Gator), the creators of the pervasive spyware package GAIN, has been appointed to the Department of Homeland Security's "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee"

    Art imitates Life. Life imitates Slashdot.

  37. Re:What better way? Sue 'em... by rizzo420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    actually, i see no problem with embedding something into the windows kernel to check if it's a legal copy. you can't get security patches for XP unless you have a legal copy, so what's the point of having it if you're susceptible to most of that crap that's floating around?

    while MS wouldn't pay that much to stop them from harassing people, they would pay that much to get the code to the software to make their anti-spyware solution the best. they would also pay that much to get the data that claria has collected in order to make their own web stuff better. think about all the browsing habits claria has collected from people (the average person, in fact). they could easily use that data to help push them ahead of google.

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  38. The good news is... by mpaque · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good news is that we won't have to worry about Gator being ported to Linux or other operating systems now...

  39. Ob. joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    This is an old joke I once read online.

    This is an entry in Bill Gates's diary:

    Memo to self: Next time, when my wife says we need to buy china, she means dishes.