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11-Nation Raid on Net Pirates

Cobb writes "The US Justice Department announce a global crack-down on large scale internet pirates distributing first run movies. According to the article: "FBI agents and investigators in the other nations conducted 90 searches starting Wednesday, arresting four people and shutting down at least eight major online distribution servers for pirated works, a Justice official said. Authorities also seized hundreds of computers in raids in the United States, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands, Portugal and the United Kingdom.""

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  1. Not the first post! Woo hoo! by cshark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't see why they don't go after the real pirates, who make and distribute these things commercially, and mostly in foreign countries. Seems to me that the non net pirates are probably a bigger threat. But they wouldn't need an international crack down force to find them (just walk through manhatten sometime), so I imagine they have to spend money on something. A shame.

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    1. Re:Not the first post! Woo hoo! by Vodak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The reason they go after the online community is simple. The current beleif is that everyone eho downloads a movie, mp3, or game is a direct sales deduction for the bottom line.

      Using that structure of thought.. in the grand scheme of things. The guys on the corenr selling these copies are little fish in the big internet pond. Hell, you might even stop a couple of them pirates too since alot of these guys are just downloading them from the interweb as well.

      Big scale pirates? Well China is our(US) allie right.

  2. 11 nations, 90 raids by Haenk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and only 4 people arrested? Man, industry seems to be able to buy a lot of "justice" nowadays...

  3. Re:Coordination of Efforts by derEikopf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because Osama Bin Laden won't bring them money.

  4. Re:That explains it... by PDXNerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps Sweden had better things to do with their police force, like arrest murderes, rapists, and real criminals. Not to say Movie Piracy is legal (morals aside), but the amount of manpower and resources this takes is absolutely ludicrous for the overall payoff.

    It would be interesting to see how much money this saved the movie industry - errr, I mean cost the rest of us (i.e. taxpayers) to fund this joint venture.

  5. Re:That explains it... by computational+super · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, it's interesting how the punishment relates to the crime... every time I watch a DVD, it reminds me that the penalty for the unauthorized reproduction or distribution of copyrighted works, including those not for commercial gain, are investigated by the FBI and punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. IIRC, that's the same penalty you get for the distribution of CP. Seems like our priorities are screwed up somewhere (one way or the other).

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  6. Great! Now the world is a better place... by presarioD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... for the corporations to arbitrate and exploit (legally) with the backup of politicians and law enforcement agencies.

    I knew it that my crazy uncle was right when he said that:

    police is there to protect the rich from the poor. Nothing else.

    Don't worry uncle I have faith in the system. For each pirate server they shut down, three more will spring out.



    On other news today: Software piracy in its last throes. Exclusive interview with Joe Sixpack Pirate. Administrator officials have been regularly holding meetings with pirates...

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    1. Re:Great! Now the world is a better place... by micromuncher · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your uncle was totally correct. The police exist to keep the law abiding citizens in line, because when They figure out that something is actually messed up, They are the threat that needs to be controlled.

      In our city, of the 2 top revenue generating civic agencies, were...
      1) the police department
      2) the transit system

      Why does it seem I was the only one to think that it was really wrong for these "public services" to turn a profit?

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  7. Re:That explains it... by epicstruggle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It would be interesting to see how much money this saved the movie industry - errr, I mean cost the rest of us (i.e. taxpayers) to fund this joint venture."

    Thats an interesting question, but your only looking at what it cost for the operations. It would be fair to hypothetically calculate the lost revenue the govermnent lost through taxation of legal sales.

    What i mean is that you pirate a game, no one really makes any money.
    If say 10% of those who pirate, actually went out and bought legal copies (went to theaters, ...) then the govermnent would get their share in taxes.

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  8. 10 years in prison? by Electric+Eye · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also...
    So the law signed by Pres. Howdy Doody says a file/movie pirate can spend ten YEARS in jail?? Yet, people who rape and murder often get less. I see now that our priorities are finally straight. How much faster can we go downhill?

  9. Re:That explains it... by Znork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, the money saved by the copyright infringers probably goes to consume other products, and probably products from some more competetive industry. Those purchases would probably also be taxed, and even better, they would quite likely employ more local people per spent unit of currency and create more wealth as almost every production chain is more efficient than the intellectual monopoly industries.

    So, as a whole, society quite probably gains from piracy.

  10. Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good thing you can get 10 years in prison for pirating a movie... and only 5 for raping a child. Our society sure has it priorities straight!

  11. Profits up! by IdleTime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, at least we will be able to see the great effect this has on *AA's bottom line. If they don't report several billion dollar increase in revenue, I'd be shocked! Shocked, I'm tellin' ya'...

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  12. Re:That explains it... by Randseed · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What i mean is that you pirate a game, no one really makes any money. If say 10% of those who pirate, actually went out and bought legal copies (went to theaters, ...) then the govermnent would get their share in taxes.

    They do. The Matrix Revolutions comes out, and lines and crowds at the theatre are ridiculous. Maybe some people want to see the movie before it's totally spoiled by people talking about it, but can't because they actually have jobs, so they pirate it. A large percentage of them in this case will still go see it in the theatre, because it's part of the "experience."

    Computer games are similar, but for a different reason. You have no idea how many computer games I've bought that have just flat-out SUCKED, or wouldn't run, or were full of bugs. Because of that, I tend to pirate first, and if it's good, I buy it. Even if I didn't, the industry as a whole still got a lot of money it in no way deserved because I bought shitty products in the past.

    I'm not condoning the behavior. It's just more complicated and nowhere near as damaging as the industry would like you to believe.

  13. Re:Coordination of Efforts by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I kind of hope they're holding him in secret right now and torturing him....

    References to torture aside (we're not supposed to be doing that...we're the good guys...aren't we?), if we did in fact have Osama in custody, do you honestly think the current administration would keep it a secret? Dubya would have hourly announcements going out about his latest 'victory' in his demented little 'war on terror'.

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  14. Re:Coordination of Efforts by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If the US Justice Department can coordinate such an effort among 11 different nations and justice systems, why can't we find Osama Bin Laden?

    As long as we're looking for Osama bin Laden, we have a valid pretext for continuing our agenda of social control. 'We need these extra powers to protect ourselves from terrorists. We mustn't be too squeamish about civil liberties. After all, Osama bin Laden is still out there.' Once we actually catch Osama bin Laden we suddenly have a problem. People will ask: 'Doesn't that mean the war is over?' That undermines the entire project.

    Therefore it's better to have a token search for Osama that occasionally turns up a suitably lunatic Arab whom we can market to the press as The Al-Qaeda Nth-In-Command, and meanwhile go ahead with the police state project and the Middle Eastern Imperial Oil Hegemony plan.

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  15. Re:New Tshirt for sale! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Osama Bin Laden is pirating music
    NOW will you go catch the fucker?


    Between you and me, strictly off the record of course :) NO

    You see, Osama is our boy. He was funded and trained by the CIA. The master plan is to take away your rights and freedom, as well as to centralize power so only a few people have all the money and power. So the rich need a boogeyman, something to threaten the people with, a scapegoat. Some event will happen, "terrorist act", and immediately afterwards, they'll start pointing a finger at their scapegoat, no evidence... 9/11 (reichstag fire), blame the terrorists (blame the commies), what's the difference here?

    You people better give up your rights, we're passing the the patriot act, real-id act, etc etc, until there is a full on police state, if you object, well something bad might just happen to your beautiful city here see? Oh watch out, that evil boogey man Osama Bin Laden is gonna get you. Aren't you glad that you have us, along with all these police, and surveillence technology to protect you?

  16. Re:Coordination of Efforts by Fareq · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I choose not to do evil things, because I am not evil, not because of some law that says I shouldn't.

    Therefore, I do not believe in torturing anyone, regardless of who they are, because torture is evil, and I am not.